> it's at least conceivable to me now that 5-MeO-DMT plus some kind of mild sedative could be used by some as a club drug
I have to disagree, if only because the line between a recreational dose and a knock-out dose is such a fine line with this compound. When I say knock-out, I mean most of 'you' has gone away for a holiday in a state of serotonin syndrome for about 40 minutes, yet just enough low level functions are left to cause trouble. Perhaps you may just enter a semicomatose state and veg in place, or perhaps you may enter a myoclastic state and trash your room while rolling about on the floor thrashing your arms and legs around you (which leads to knocking things over and harsh rug burns...).
It took me three errors of choice to learn my lessons with this compound. This RC seems to deserve a category all it's own, I like the term psychedelic crack.
So alluring, yet such a fine line.
All I can see is a whole lot of people overdosing far too easily with this one.
The average rules concerning most drugs do not apply, the dose response curve is steep enough as it is, but to simply cut off into a semiconcious state at a point in that relationship when the psychedelic nature of the compound is so pleasurable... it's a creul world. I wish I could bump up 5-meo-dmt the way you can bump up your buzz with most compounds, but it is best to just take one dose, perhaps a second, and that's that. It can be all too easy to have caution when starting out, and then once you are high you just toss 30 mg. in the bowl thinking it's cool, resistence is up and this trip is fantastic... then, you come to slightly confused as you are cleaning your room, not sure where you were a few mintues ago nor how your room got messed up and how you got these nasty rug burns... too big a hit on top of an existing buzz, and you may not have time to even put your pipe down before the void draws you in.
We'lll see, but I think this one is for hard heads only. Lightweights need not apply, do your selves a favor. I think if it did hit the street it would get a rep like PCP (perhaps heavier) real quick. The only blessing is that your bad trip will never go for hours, but you can do a lot of naughty things in forty minutes. And, consider all the prescription meds this one might interact with in a negative fashion... what a mess.
In all my screwing around with the common street drugs in the 80s, I never encountered a psychedelic that can so easily and predictably scramble your conciousness to a complete omelette in 10 seconds. I think of the prejudice against LSD, and it seems even more absurd now... I think LSD could mind fuck the vulnerable more that 5-meo-dmt, but you could take extra hits of LSD going on up to 8 blotters (my limit, almost always 4 or 5 was satisfactory) and you were not going to partially black out and start screaming, "Oh my God," at the top of your lungs. On the other hand, reports of psychological difficulties returning to baseline with 5-meo-dmt are not impossible to find. I have not experienced this though.
Let the tales of the Void spread about, and I just do not think this drug can cut it in the street market. Now, if someone could remove the tendency of 5-meo-dmt to overwhelm you while at the same time facilitating the ability of it to amplify the psychedelic nature of the experience through bump ups without risking crossing that so-close line (for instance, the difference between 10 and 15 mgs.), then I think you might have something. But, then, pills will be a problem since you would have to add something to allow oral activity... powder would probably never penetrate the market like pills could.
I have to disagree, if only because the line between a recreational dose and a knock-out dose is such a fine line with this compound. When I say knock-out, I mean most of 'you' has gone away for a holiday in a state of serotonin syndrome for about 40 minutes, yet just enough low level functions are left to cause trouble. Perhaps you may just enter a semicomatose state and veg in place, or perhaps you may enter a myoclastic state and trash your room while rolling about on the floor thrashing your arms and legs around you (which leads to knocking things over and harsh rug burns...).
It took me three errors of choice to learn my lessons with this compound. This RC seems to deserve a category all it's own, I like the term psychedelic crack.
So alluring, yet such a fine line.
All I can see is a whole lot of people overdosing far too easily with this one.
The average rules concerning most drugs do not apply, the dose response curve is steep enough as it is, but to simply cut off into a semiconcious state at a point in that relationship when the psychedelic nature of the compound is so pleasurable... it's a creul world. I wish I could bump up 5-meo-dmt the way you can bump up your buzz with most compounds, but it is best to just take one dose, perhaps a second, and that's that. It can be all too easy to have caution when starting out, and then once you are high you just toss 30 mg. in the bowl thinking it's cool, resistence is up and this trip is fantastic... then, you come to slightly confused as you are cleaning your room, not sure where you were a few mintues ago nor how your room got messed up and how you got these nasty rug burns... too big a hit on top of an existing buzz, and you may not have time to even put your pipe down before the void draws you in.
We'lll see, but I think this one is for hard heads only. Lightweights need not apply, do your selves a favor. I think if it did hit the street it would get a rep like PCP (perhaps heavier) real quick. The only blessing is that your bad trip will never go for hours, but you can do a lot of naughty things in forty minutes. And, consider all the prescription meds this one might interact with in a negative fashion... what a mess.
In all my screwing around with the common street drugs in the 80s, I never encountered a psychedelic that can so easily and predictably scramble your conciousness to a complete omelette in 10 seconds. I think of the prejudice against LSD, and it seems even more absurd now... I think LSD could mind fuck the vulnerable more that 5-meo-dmt, but you could take extra hits of LSD going on up to 8 blotters (my limit, almost always 4 or 5 was satisfactory) and you were not going to partially black out and start screaming, "Oh my God," at the top of your lungs. On the other hand, reports of psychological difficulties returning to baseline with 5-meo-dmt are not impossible to find. I have not experienced this though.
Let the tales of the Void spread about, and I just do not think this drug can cut it in the street market. Now, if someone could remove the tendency of 5-meo-dmt to overwhelm you while at the same time facilitating the ability of it to amplify the psychedelic nature of the experience through bump ups without risking crossing that so-close line (for instance, the difference between 10 and 15 mgs.), then I think you might have something. But, then, pills will be a problem since you would have to add something to allow oral activity... powder would probably never penetrate the market like pills could.
