Are the zubsolv's easy to accurately break into smaller pieces? That's a big consideration for me, and probably a lot of us...It's the reason I don't fuck with the generic Suboxone tablets. they're as hard as a rock, they're not scored.
I know Reckitt Douchehiser would rather have people pay almost the same amount for a 2mg pill as an 8mg pill so they can make even more money when you try to taper down. It says right on the strips "Do not cut or attempt to break down"(not in so many words)...Luckily my doctor isn't an idiot and prescribes me half-strips...I mean, other than Reckitt Benckiser being greedy, why is breaking up the pills or strips such a big deal, because you won't get a completely accurate dose? Who cares if one half-strip is 3.91 and the other half is 4.09? Like that makes any difference whatsoever!
Zubsolv are not hard to break apart at all, easier than roxicodone pills are to break up, even though Orexo and my doctor stated that I should not break them apart for some reason regarding the pill coating... I break mine apart with no diminished effects. As far as pill scoring goes, zubsolv is not scored (check the images on page 1). You could ball park it though... I have, and from my experience it's not difficult to do so... Break the pill in half it's equal to half a strip, break the half it's a quarter strip etc... If you want exact measurements though then I guess you might not want zubsolv.
If I could get it into rough eighths, I'd be happy....That's one advantage of the sub strips, you can get down to the sub mg doses without a lot of trouble, but if the zubsolv are cheaper and easier to break up, I'd try them...
I've never done a single Roxi in my whole life...I started opiates on heroin and never switched...I did the original 40 and 80 mg oxys several times, but never bothered with the "blues"....When I say "blues", I mean 1mg Xanax.
I wonder what it is about the Zubsolv formulation that can improve it's BA?
That is so absurd that it says they are not to be cut up. So the smallest dose possible in that case is 2 mg from a 2/.5 strip and you have to dose in increments of 2 mg. Its a great strategy to jump of Suboxone at 2 mg, have fun with the 2-3 weeks of pretty awful withdrawals.
If it's a pill it must be cuttable.
My drug treatment place has finally stopped dropping people at 2 mg; now, when you reach the cut off point, they give you 2 mg every other day, sometimes every third day, leaving you to cut it yourself. (Why the fuck don't Reckitt do a microgram-sized pill!? It's almost as if they want the 2mg to 0 transition to be painful).
I would love to go on this subsolv if it tastes like mint n devolves quicker. Much better for people with busy lives if it does dissolve quicker.
Ahh my bad, I never knew you "weren't supposed to cut suboxone", my dr. Didn't even make mention of that when i told her I was cutting mine... Interesting. Yeah its a load of shit, it can all be cut, it can all be broken down, no negative effects happen, whether it's suboxone, zubsolv, or any form of oral bupe.
Is subsolv made by the same people who made suboxone or not?
Nah, MRScagnettie and PKPro were saying it's made by some European company whose name escapes me. I wish it was; I personally can't stand Suboxone - the taste, the BA, and the sheer length of time it takes to dissolve. Sometimes if my mouth is dry, it can take up to or over an hour to dissolve completely. I would love to get my hands on this, it just sound better for my needs. Is the name Zubsolv or Subsolv btw?
Suboxone tablets < suboxone strips < Zubsolv in terms of dissolving speed. Zubsolv dissolves in 5-8 mins.
How long does it take for the strips to dissolve btw?
Its never taken over an hour for me to dissolve - for me the longest was 30 minutes.
You have to wonder if Drs get "bonuses" from R&B to keep patients hooked up and buying more sub...
Is it possible that they never made/sold smaller doses as they may have assumed that people could withdraw from 2mg? Mind you, they must have learnt that was is not the case, as the years went on, si could have produced smaller doses. I agree, RTrain, they could have made more money that way.
Unless they were hoping that people would find withdrawal difficult n thus stay on suboxone for longer ?