Why is the European rave scene so much better than the American (IMO)?

Come to Minneapolis we give Europe a run for it's money, in fact I saw some European artist's last week here in MPLS on the Datsik Firepower tour, it all depends where you are in America.

I FUCKING HATE TC DUBSTEP, THE ORIGINAL CREATOR WAS AMAZING AND STILL IS, ANYONE RUNNING TC CAN SUCK MY FAT ASS FUCKING DICK.

As much as I hate them, they put up a european style event that is mindblowing, but thats because our city has skyways, a buffet of drugs and security looks left.

Fuck TC dubstep and skyway, I will clean up all your problems such as the BK-mdma Addicts.

The sound in the Skyway Theatre is terrible; it's like 99% bass with the rest being barely audible. I saw Flying Lotus play there 4-5 years ago and was really disappointed because I couldn't hear what the fuck was going on.

I can't believe TC Dubstep is still going on. Dubstep has become so watered down, homogenized and passé, yet, for whatever reason, people are still infatuated with these amateur one-trick pony producers who all sound virtually the same. It's not like there aren't good dubstep artists out there, but the ones who are making interesting music are few and far between and aren't the type of people who decided to produce electronic music on a whim.
 
That video doesn't do justice to the music coming out of Romania like a[:rpia:]r (Raresh, Rhadoo and Pedro) and Praslea. Ricardo Villalobos has kinda become "bff's" with a bunch of the Romanian guys and the result is awesome. One of the biggest nights I'd really like to attend sometime is Villalobos with a[:rpia:]r all night at Robert Johnson in Frankfurt/Offenbach.

[video=youtube_share;vbpucI_t0Ys]http://youtu.be/vbpucI_t0Ys[/video]

Here are some great videos either in Romania, or of the Romanians I've been talking about

http://player.dancetrippin.tv/video/dj-set-episode-147-villalobos-pedro-rhadoo-raresh/
http://player.dancetrippin.tv/video/raresh-praslea-sunwaves-romania-deep-house-tech-house/
http://player.dancetrippin.tv/video/ricardo-villalobos-kristal-glam-club-romania/

Romania really has some of the deepest, trippiest minimal house out there.
 
Lots of desert raves around here, not much else, but the desert raves are the best I gotta tell ya, having been to raves in England and Spain before
 
Y'all know nowt untll y'all acknowledge...

Loose Fit (live 2000) - as close as I can currently get to the majesty. Find 'em doing the same tune mid-90s for actual win... to be specific you want the version with shaun sat 'pon a stool with lyrics on paper in his hand looking... more like we aim to be than we are. Y'all know what is meant or don't. The latter don't count... <3)

(is still ryder & co tho so fuck y'all <3)

Get Higher - appalling vid (original vid not available on PooToob :() with lyrics ta make ya eyes water... Keep Struggling... <3

I Wanna Be Adored (MBV Edit)

I Am the Resurrection - fuck the remixes, original ftwmfw <3

The Horn Track

+

Charlie

+

Out of Space

= Win. Pure WIn.

The rest is mostly filling in the gaps.

<3
 
Europeans have, on average, better taste in fashion, music, and drugs than the average American.
 
Ain't that just the truth...

!"
"Yeah we're having a temazepam party"
"Yeah"
"Good evening, and welcome to the tramazi parti.
Just slide inside and help youself. We have a wide selection of downers, for you all to enjoy tonight. So sit down and gouch out, at your own leisure."

Welcome to tramazi parti,
Just look down and slide inside.
We'll get some go-go girls,
From their boyfriends now.

If you come around you'll have me,
Just like you were Dirty Harry,
We're fillin' up you' carrier bags,
Like a leg of lamb.

We got my boots on my head,
Just fillin' up jellies on a double bed,
And no one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x2]

Tramazi, me spazi, I'm lovin' the party,
Test round the x, and forgot everybody.

Nobody knows what Beatno said,
It's full of enough jellies inside his head,
Or something to that effect.

Look for the bodies that renegade,
Wey-hey, what did he say?
I don't remember, just not now.

Oh yeah!

I got my boots on my head,
It's full of jellies in the double bed.
No-one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x2]

Drip drip mind, so socialise, watch the unkind.
Huffs and puffs, brother in the cuff, needle's stuck.
Filling your kegs, don't look so stressed, here comes the dregs.
Vapour trails, all in the air, I paint the fed.

I got my boots on the back of my head,
It's full of enough jellies in a double bed,
No-one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x4]

"So"

"Hell yeah"

"Hey what the f***?"

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x3]


Some of 'em have lyrics an allsorts 8o

Ain't even postin' teh lyrics due to sheer genius...

Black Grape - Dadi Waz a Badi


I'll fukken eat y'al on tunes per se. Su fuck them and focus on tunes. I'll fuck y'all sideways all the same but at least give me competition....

Klaxxons - It's Not Not over Yet

Pluck teeth from the chaff, y'all..

<3
 
Ain't that just the truth...

!"
"Yeah we're having a temazepam party"
"Yeah"
"Good evening, and welcome to the tramazi parti.
Just slide inside and help youself. We have a wide selection of downers, for you all to enjoy tonight. So sit down and gouch out, at your own leisure."

Welcome to tramazi parti,
Just look down and slide inside.
We'll get some go-go girls,
From their boyfriends now.

If you come around you'll have me,
Just like you were Dirty Harry,
We're fillin' up you' carrier bags,
Like a leg of lamb.

We got my boots on my head,
Just fillin' up jellies on a double bed,
And no one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x2]

Tramazi, me spazi, I'm lovin' the party,
Test round the x, and forgot everybody.

Nobody knows what Beatno said,
It's full of enough jellies inside his head,
Or something to that effect.

Look for the bodies that renegade,
Wey-hey, what did he say?
I don't remember, just not now.

Oh yeah!

I got my boots on my head,
It's full of jellies in the double bed.
No-one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x2]

Drip drip mind, so socialise, watch the unkind.
Huffs and puffs, brother in the cuff, needle's stuck.
Filling your kegs, don't look so stressed, here comes the dregs.
Vapour trails, all in the air, I paint the fed.

I got my boots on the back of my head,
It's full of enough jellies in a double bed,
No-one knows what no-one said.

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x4]

"So"

"Hell yeah"

"Hey what the f***?"

(Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly.) [x3]


Some of 'em have lyrics an allsorts 8o

Ain't even postin' teh lyrics due to sheer genius...

Black Grape - Dadi Waz a Badi


I'll fukken eat y'al on tunes per se. Su fuck them and focus on tunes. I'll fuck y'all sideways all the same but at least give me competition....

Klaxxons - It's Not Not over Yet

Pluck teeth from the chaff, y'all..

<3
 
Kep on polishing, bee-atch =D

"Nancy is joining us cos this message is not hers it's ours..."

Black Grape - Get Higherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e32wBFa3ITY

Bong-Ra - Can You Dig It? (feat. Mike Redman)

The Orb - Ba'albeck

I lose track... Did I ever play y'all the single greatest "rave" tune ever created?

The Orb - Earth (Gaia) - stand the cunt on its head and play it backwards - still gonna piss on all yer chips with its downright Godliness <3

I could (and will) expand 'pon this theme...

Squarepusher - Do You KNow Squarepusher (live @ Fuki Rock '01) - bestest vesion of that track ever was recorded <3

<3

Pee Ess: Did I forget to include song wiv lyrical genius?!? Seems I did. Fuck... Oh well...

Black Grape - Tramazi Parti

"Welcome to your nightly,
You can have it if you treat it rightly..."


<3
 
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Because Americans outgrew raves in kindergarten! The year of 1999 lol
 
One thing I've noticed is that it seems Europeans/UK people seem to respect and pay homage to the history of this music and scene a lot more than here. When I see fliers for events and festivals in the UK and europe there is almost always an entire room/stage dedicated to oldskool rave music. Either late 80's acid house, early 90's breakbeat/jungle or early hardcore/gabber.. and they aren't filled with noname DJ's, they usually have a few pioneers that actually made an impact. I can't for the life of me remember the last time I saw that at a festival or rave here in the US which is kind of sad.
 
one thing
no kandi and that bullshit in europe
that and the UK keeps shit real
original jungle style
 
Having lived in America, in various states; I tend to pick and choose from radio stations. The US of A smokes us (UK) in hip-hop and hence drum and bass. Having studied in many studios on both sides of the pond; it's waaay more analogue in the US. It's a certain way of working in a US studio and audiophiles are protecting their 600 thousand dollar Neve consoles.
In america though the underground scene goes past almost unnoticed. Try to pick up radio stations all over the dial, record it; honestly I've got my best tapes in this random manner.
Use pandora (I guess), it's so difficult to find tracks as yet unknown.
Australia has amazing music also. The only real difference is that Europe is more mainstream for 'electronic', in that the tat is all over every frequency.
Stop dissing any country, each to his or her own. Once you adhere to any genre; your a slave. Fuck that. Listen, sample (record) and through it into the mix.
 
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basically.. for the country which gave birth to the earlist genres of dance music, techno from Detroit, and house from chicago/NY formerlly disco. It wasn't long before Hip-Hop really blew up. which was an incredible moment in musical history, and many people in NY in the late 80's felt a connection with it, it overshadowed techno and house to an extent, which remained very underground scenes in underground clubs like the paradise garage in NY.
meanwhile in the UK an equally exciting movement was developing, Acid house & Hardcore, illegal raves held in fields with thousands of people all for the music (ecstasy Boom) it's undeniable that this music was partially influenced by the detroit tehno legends (jeff mills, juan atkins), but it was rougher and toucher. Hardcore came about which used heavily chopped up samples of the Amen break. This was UK rave culture. This just kept developing and morphing and splitting into so many directions, and so many sounds, labels, and movements. there was jungle shortly after hardcore, which became drum n' Bass, you had UK garage into grime, and at around 2002 the last underground genre was born out of london... DUBSTEP.. which is a dirty word now. it was actually around before skrillex, those early dubstep nights in london were unforgettable. just a dark room, a huge sound system, guiness, and the sweet smell of ganja in the air, those rumbling 18" bass bins rattling your rib cage.
it was only a matter of time until a major label discovered it, took it from us, diluted it down to maket towards americas frat boy suburban ex emo scene. got britney spears to sing 'dubstep'... then they cashed out, got bored, and left us all in london like...
'what just happened?'
my answer to your question is: America is a very very big country, with many inhabitants from all over. the impression i get from current young people in the US now is that they are so fucking impatient, and naive. i mean u can't help where you were born, but when there is not much of a musical influence around you as you are growing up, you won't always develop a deeper appreciation and connection to music. they are happy to listen to top 40 their whole life, thats fine if thats you, you are probably busy, BUT. If there are not enough younger people digging deeper to find a wider range of dance music from around the world, it creates no market or audience, Therefore as a promoter or festival organizer, even if you are booking some legendary Dj's from the UK or Europe, chances are the general public won't really care unless he's wearing a mask, or throws cakes into the crowd and everythings neon and flashy, face paint and testosterone fuelled machoism.. the music becomes secondary, the light show comes first. Unfortunately this is why the US lacks many decent music festivals
 
UK is not necessarily like the rest of Europe. A lot of stuff born in the UK never got on in the rest of Europe. Ever countrie in Europe is different. States in US are different, too. Still they have kind of the same culture. Europe doesn't necessarily.
Never been to a rave in the US. Watching videos of tommorrowland festival in belgian, it doesnt seem different to big EDM festivals in the USA.
 
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