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    Is the name given in the thread title not wrong? Should be 1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-2-amino-ethan-1-one, no?
    Last edited by babylonboy; 09-10-2013 at 01:15. Reason: Got the nomenclature wrong. Hoist by my own petard.
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    bk-2C-B works well enough, lol.
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    #53
    OK, so either leave it at that, or have the correct name. Anyone who actually understands the nomenclature can see that it's wrong, what's the point in that?
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    So how about: 2-amino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)ethanone ??

    I know for the OCD chemicologists this is crucial shit, but think we may well survive with bk-2C-B :D
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    That's still ambiguous, is the ketone at the 1 or 2 position? Either get the long-form name right or get rid of it. Lay names are fine, but why have a systematic name that's wrong? Why is this such a bugbear for you?
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    so this still isnt available but for a select few? guessing that it isnt that great as it was first thought? or is the supply/sinth the issue?

    anyone have any idea if there are 2c-b impurities in it? or the synth is just too different to produce that as well.... (not a synth question, just curious about legality)
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    Nah, you can't just tack an oxygen on like that, it'll be made using a ketone precursor, and the UK RC vendors aren't stupid enough to sell anything with class A impurities (which is why NBOMes were tricky).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingme View Post
    so this still isnt available but for a select few? guessing that it isnt that great as it was first thought? or is the supply/sinth the issue?

    anyone have any idea if there are 2c-b impurities in it? or the synth is just too different to produce that as well.... (not a synth question, just curious about legality)
    It goes on general sale in a couple of weeks.

    i don`t know what was first thought but I thought it was excellent and I`ve had plenty of the non bk version
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    The eagle has landed.
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    2-amino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-phenyl)ethanone

    Pandoras box of bk-phenylethylamines opened indeed...
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    This sounds really promising! I love 2-CB, it's absolutely lush and if it closely resembles the good stuff then Christmas has come early! Shame I have no funds to purchase just now. Knowing my luck when I do get some money together in the next week or so it'll be sold out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceres View Post
    2-amino-1-(4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-phenyl)ethanone

    Pandoras box of bk-phenylethylamines opened indeed...

    Indeedy :D
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    yeah this stuff is no joke.

    did about 100mg last night and was very taken by surprise. I thought it had worn off a couple of hours after I snorted it, then suddenly started TRIPPING. Made for a good change of scenery.
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    Got 250mg of this sitting at post depot. Won't be able to get it till Wednesday morning though because of work (which is when I plan to try it... Weds.) Not sure on dosage yet though or ROA.
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    I snorted approx 100mg of it and was rather fucked up. It also burned like a fucker, I would drink it in orange juice.
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    Sounds like the 6/7x weaker than 2C-B needs clarification from a larger test set.
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    I've never tried 2CB itself, so can't compare. But 100mg (approx) was a pretty heavy dose (spread over a few hours). I was really surprised about how it crept up on me.

    Interesting material anyway, I would like to sample the bk-2C-I as I remember 2CI as having a little more of a stimulant push. This feels much less aggressive, but very benign, and it is far nicer than 25I-NBOME.
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    bk-2C-T-X, por favor :D

    And how about bk-triflouromescaline... could be fun :|

    I've found that railing bk-2C-B makes the experience less stimulating - pretty sledgy/dreamy actually. Loses the tingletastic-orgasmatron come-up period :D

    And it combos very well with classic psych-PEAs... still feel a bit askew, been in a lovely sledgy-PEA glow all day :D
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    Perhaps that's where I'm going wrong then. I'm about to brutalise my nose with a little more. It really is unpleasant. I'm not sure it had really worn off fully this morning, so I'm not sure how taking more today will go. But I'm at a loose end and might aswell use the stuff up. Only aquired it because I was shocked to see it available, out of curiosity. Not something I would aquire again. But as I say, at a loose end on a free weekend so it's an interesting diversion.

    edit> sledgy/dreamy sounds about right. Lends itself well to contemplation.
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    Aye, it likely has long duration active metabolites (e.g., BOB... active @ 10mg!).
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    so, trippier but less stimulating than 2cb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hexagram View Post
    so, trippier but less stimulating than 2cb?
    I'd say contrarywise when taken orally - turned my cacti-mama into a disco-queen :o But it has a much longer trippy tail.
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    oral dose? IMed yet anyone?
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    Not as far as I know (IM). Oral - good starting dose...100mg. Starts getting really funky around 150mg, but ~18hrs duration.

    Here's a TR for 100mg...

    105mg bk-2C-B, light lunch 3hrs earlier.

    t = 0: 105mg Oral. Lovely sunny afternoon, so not expecting visual delights. But too good to pass - great set and setting :)
    t =30: not much at this point
    t =60: first alerts, little tingles/chills and slight restlessness. HR increase felt. Music is starting to sound awesome
    t =90: feeling some stimmy effects, increase in temp, tightness in throat, mood heightening, maybe minor visuals in periphery, some gastric churning (poop time)
    t =105: feeling great, smooth energetic euphoria, music awesome, urge to move, lol - funkin away :) got the moves like an ageing raver :/
    t =120: Oopsie, lost myself for a minute there - perhaps time distortion but minor TR fail either way :/ As above - nice and smooth, tingles/chills here and there. Upped the music pace...stupid grin on cakehole :D Any visual aspect is minor at this point. But no surprise dose- or setting-wise.
    t =150: can sense visual background, but minor. As before - smooth but stimmed, warm euphoria. Nice.
    t =180: clearly plateauing. As before. Pulled into Real Life™ stuff for a while :/ Easily handled at this level. Chance for empathogenic effects to shine :D
    t =210: as before. Desperate urge to dive back into musical bliss :/
    t =240: feeling some pins & needles in hands/fingers, neck tension. Yawns appearing, generally as before but stimmy edge waning (could be change in setting), perhaps on the downslope?
    t =270: still pins & needles, some minor chest-pain, but nothing concerning. As before - now diving back into music. Hopefuly will lift me somewhat (damn neighbours and their random crap!)
    t =300: much better, pushy tunes :D Amazing views - just taking it all in :) as before otherwise, but now got some push back. Clear musical synergy :)
    t =330: Won't reach earlier stimmy heights, but still nice warm euphoria. Music is blissful. Dozens of swifts flying above my head :D Sunset is gonna be lush :) Think defo downslope at this point.
    t =360: brrrr! Sunset is awesome but need to wrap up. Definite downslope. Still feelin good, Jaki Liebezeit is godly :D, but can feel the effects waning :( However, as sun goes down the visual angle starts to shine through :)
    t =390: As above, visual angle is clearer now. Just had an awesome hug :D Effects waning. Chill brings on some neck tension.
    t =420: Must munch - as always when playing in this zone: nice & spicy. Gorgeous :D visual effects much clearer - tracers, minor morphing etc
    t =450: smoothly sliding to baseline, still some visuals
    t =480: off for snuggles and cuddles - transmission over :D
    t = 10.5hrs: still minor visuals and body high effects going. Uhmm, nice erotic downslope here, lol.

    In sum: hell yes :D excellent and typical 'morning' afterglow (well, what I normally expect in this zone). lovely jubbly :D
    and a railed TR for comparison's sake...

    ~54mg bk-2C-B weighed out, three nice equalish rails set up (so ~18mg each). set sucks: tired, shitty-week, blah blah. Setting good.

    t = 0: ~36mg bk-2C-B - OK, railing nettles may be kinder to the nasal passages, but bearable. Felt worse.
    t= 5: no rapid effects at this point. Not as hard and fast as other things I can think of :| lol
    t = 10: mood is more positive, but no rocket launch etc.
    t = 15: visuals noted in periphery, need a poop :| Nasal sting is negligible and background at this point.
    t = 30: remaining insuff'd (~18mg bk-2C-B). Not so bad this time. Going for poop :D
    t = 45: I pooped :|
    t = 60: nice chills & tingles, feels like a quick launch 100mg oral :| mild visual effects, mood is positive but not euphoric - a set issue metink. Feeling hungry, so I'd guess that means plateau munches time is here :D No headfuck etc.
    t = 90: Pretty chilled & mellow really - does feel around a 100mg oral experience (perhaps a little under). Mild visual, entactogenic, and empathogenic effects. Some vaso (heating going on, hah). Munched a fishfinger butty :D
    t = 120: still feel on plateau (need moar & spicier food!) - mild visual effects, chills/tingles, some vaso, bit sledgy (think set again - just a draining week). As before really.
    t = 150: still plateau - partner crashed. Headphones, some good sounds, feeling good :D
    t = 180: Still plateau - so around 60mins smooth launch to plateau, 2hrs at that level so far. of course, extra bump in there to complicate matters :/
    t = 210: as before really - mild visuals, entact, empath - not overly stimmy (sledgy today). Starting to get some yawns. Downslope oncoming?
    t = 240: very sledgy downslope - which I like :D certainly suits my mood perfectly, hah. Sigur ros expertly massaging my brain :D
    t = 300: could easily crash now. Again very sledgy feeling. Still mild visual effects. The dead have arisen! May go for some snuggles soon :D
    t ~ 360: Again, could crash easily now. Very sledgy, chilled, and dreamy - which I lurrrvve. I could probably keep myself going for another hour or two. But off for snuggles. Transmission over :D

    First feelings: prefer oral - don't mind insuff now and again (usually to boost), but I like a decent smooth launch - want my tingle-tings-to-tingle-longer :| really (really) liking the downslope tonight tho' (but might be a set issue...).
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    Jesus you have to do mental arithmetic on this stuff. t=210? What's wrong with 3h30m mela?

    No sourcing btw.
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