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Sometimes I wonder if life just isn't for some, no place for us. I see value all around me, all out of reach. Watching from a far, separate from what's really going down, yet it's (being thrown) in my face, it's right before me.. out of my grasp.
Maybe there's nothing to get- just like the grapes really are sour... I've been chewing on apples for too long.

It's too confusing, no words will lead anywhere. Too many things are variable, dependent.
Is this how I am, or where I'm at. How can there be potential for change when the present is so limited?
How much value does the future have to me as I am? What can I do to improve this situation?

Suicide seems like a logical step and going on seems stupid.
Am I an idiot or am I just looking at this amorally
 
Suicide seems like a logical step and going on seems stupid.
Am I an idiot or am I just looking at this amorally

I identify with those words, they sound very much like the thoughts I once had but I'm not sure anyone around me really understood. No drama, beyond pain and maybe even beyond sadness I couldn't see any other options, the logical step seemed to be possibly the last and final step.

You're certainly not an idiot, in fact you're probably more aware and 'conscious' than many but that in itself is a burden, 'ignorance' can indeed be bliss.

Hang in there just being is the real reward, hang on in there you have no idea what the mystery of life has to offer as we accelerate into our future at the speed of light.

You've got nothing to lose and everything to live for, the end of this journey will come to us all in it's own time <3
 
I liked your post Abject, I've been wondering the same, I had both an older brother and a twin sister, bro died of SIDS b4 i was born and my sister died in the woumb with me... On days like today I really believe death chose the wrong people, I'm just so tired of both causing pain to my loved ones and being in pain and for me, logically, suicide is a fair next step 4 me IMO.
Thanks to anyone else who has posted on this thread, I may try that idea of the butterfly because, ugh, I hate to admit it but I'm cutting myself again..

I just don't know at all what to do, this past week my girlfriend told me that she decided to move half way across the country. I want her to be happy but I don't think she's going to do a long distance relationship either, she's never done that and was caught off guard by me asking her what she wanted and said that she didn't know. We've only been together for about 3 months but I fucking love her, she treats me better then I even feel I deserve, we dont even live together yet she still sometimes cooks me things, she buys me stuff, she's beautiful, I respected her enough to wait like a full month until we had sex and I've just really fallen so hard for her.
Since finding out, I've been a mess, I'm playing it cool with her but I'm shooting up to 40mg of bupe, eating benzodiazepines, getting high and drinking my ass off daily until I black out and nod off, I even almost set my fucking couch on fire while smoking cigs in a nod. I am very unsure of what to do, many would tell me to move on but that's not me, I have problems with love addiction/codependency and I always really love my girlfriends, I'm upset because my relationships never last long at all plus this girl is 1 in a million, 4 months ago I would of never believed such a beautiful, sweet, amazing girl would have ever even fucking talked to or hang out with me yet alone would date me, I know plenty of guys who tried to get with her or date her and nobody I knew ever dated her or got her into bed besides me of all fucking people (I'm nothing special, a drug addict with social anxiety, I'm horrible with girls, I have bad teeth, I'm certainly no Brad Pitt lol)..
I'm just so scared because I'm stuck in my city due to me needing bupe and in less then a month she's going to be gone and I won't be following anytime soon and that's if she doesn't just leave me before she goes to start a new life. I just can't do this, I already almost shot myself but I just like flinched or something and sent a bullet into the ceiling instead of my head, I'm scared and I probably subconsciously jerked intentionally before pulling the trigger..
Fuck me, I'm just so scared of the pain of being alone that I can't deal with it, it all just hurts so much and for so long, years.. This girl that I love, the only fucking thing in my life that makes me truly happy will be gone and I'll be alone, just typing this is so hard, she is so fucking amazing and she gave this junkie POS the happiest summer of his life, now it's fall, it reminds me of death, it really adds to my already frequent depression then my girl leaving too is all too much for me to handle, I don't know how I'll be able to not kill myself or just OD trying to manage.

I'm sorry this is kind of long, I'm very confused and scared... I don't want to die, I want to be happy but happiness never fucking comes, happiness always just stops by for a visit then hurts me worse then I was before the love came into my life.. I've had a few drinks and I'll shut the fuck up now...
 
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Hi subutex_junkie,
I know I don't know you, or what your going through.
But look at it this way, she's obviously with you for a reason, whatever that may be. So try to look at the positives in this situation. I know that may seem hard or even impossible at times, but things always seem to get better.
You should use your love for her to motivate you to kick some of the addiction to the kerb, or take up a hobbie to distract you like drawing.
I know that may sound silly, but it helped me alot.
When I was cutting, i cut so deep once that I passed out and was bleeding out on the floor when my mum found me. I will never forget the look on her face when I woke up in hospital, or the tears in my families eyes as they looked at me. Because I was so young, the psychiatrist recommended an artistic output.I'd have to go outside, pick something and draw it, but take my time with each stroke. I'd quite literally sit and draw trees for hours.

"days like today I really believe death chose the wrong people", i know it sometimes feels that way, but the way I see it was you survived for something, for some reason. You have to live your life for those people now, and let them empower you. They wouldn't want to see their brother hurt, or hurting himself, especially if they could help.

Regardless of where you are in the world, there's always someone you can talk too ie anonymous hotlines Etc. When you're upset.

Try to stay strong. :)
 
I'm a fucking hypocrite I'm using first aid stuff to cut and I don't even true anymore I mean, what's the point of trying to live if your already dead inside.
 
i tried to be strong after i lost my arm.....i dunno anymore, im back to doing all the shit that caused it, self, included......wtf is the point ...i mean really? if this isnt hell....if we all just fade to black...whats the point in trying?? i really wanna talk to this god....
 
i tried to be strong after i lost my arm.....i dunno anymore, im back to doing all the shit that caused it, self, included......wtf is the point ...i mean really? if this isnt hell....if we all just fade to black...whats the point in trying?? i really wanna talk to this god....

How did you lose your arm?

I was born missing fingers on my left hand, scared on my right hand and the tops of my toes missing on my left foot.
Sometimes I think 'why me?' like what have I done to deserve this. And sometimes it fucking sucks. Ain't gonna lie. But it just means I have every reason to say 'try me' and overcome people's expectations.
 
i tried to be strong after i lost my arm.....i dunno anymore, im back to doing all the shit that caused it, self, included......wtf is the point ...i mean really? if this isnt hell....if we all just fade to black...whats the point in trying?? i really wanna talk to this god....

What happened? I am very sorry to hear what happened.
 
I am bringing this back from the archive, re-posting it because I think it needs to be re-posted. The man that wrote this, a man at a pivotal and hopeful point in his life is now gone,truly erased from the prime of his life, his life ended by an accidental overdose. Yet his words remain. I sat in his room with his mother and read the words that had been copied from Bluelight (this thread) into a book that was made by his partner for his memorial. He left two finished novels and one unfinished and yet, even if these are someday published, for me these will always be the words that this beautiful man left in the world that will matter most to me.

25-07-2011 20:37

So...it's one of those nights, and I'm back on this thread. First off, I've been reading the posts above, and I feel empathy for everyone in this thread. I've struggled with thoughts of suicide since I was in my late teens, with one serious attempt - now I'm 36, and in a mess, professionally, financially (which keeps me in a job I hate), and with benzo addiction. My tolerance reached the point where I started throwing in some seroquel to get to sleep, and modafinil or MPA to get moving in the morning - it's impossible to imagine living drug-free, and I feel I've fucked up so many opportunities that sometimes I can't forgive myself. A few weeks back, I had a dark experience with Methoxetamine and 4-meo-pcp that had me calculating LD50s and whether my 'scripts, combined, would do the job...but I was partly raised by a grandmother who killed herself, and even though she was 83, it's haunted and damaged me to the point that I know, while I have living relatives, I just don't have the option. Too many friends as well who'd lose months to grieving...and one who's told me she's not sure she could carry on herself if I don't. I score off the charts for major depressive disorder, generalised anxiety and have been an addict/alkie since I was 15...brief flashes of happiness in relationships that turned to shit, and now I wonder if I'm coming close to a point of no return...

I know that I may still be suffering PAWS, as well (three months clean), and my neurotransmitters just can't experience pleasure for very long. I don't know if I can do my job, pay my debts, deal with everything I have to deal with. But...fuck it. I'm going to try. I don't know if I can forgive the past, or face the future: but I won't do to others what my grandma did to me, leaving me wondering for 14 years about her last moments, about whether I could have done something to stop her if I hadn't been too busy with girlfriends and partying. I'm typing this at what used to be her desk, one of the few things she managed to get out of Romania during WWII - we're Jewish, and the Nazi puppet government was sweeping the area, her folks bribed the right people, they got out. I remind myself every day that whether you're an atheist or psychedelic mystic, a true believer in an organised religion or none of the above, on some level, don't we all sense, at least sometimes, that all things are connected, all is one? Maybe that's just down to raw physics: there are other ways of looking at it.

But if we give in to the urge to self-destruct, I do believe it's a loss that effects - and affects - everything. I haven't had 'a good day' this whole year, haven't felt pleasure or a sense of peace for so long that I don't remember what they're like: but still, even if for no reason that I can name, I know I must remain alive as long as I can. I had to write that, tonight, in a public forum, because I'm trapped in a job/apartment/life I hate...but fuck it. No. I'm not giving up. I don't really know why: but whatever pain may come, I won't be my grandmother (of blessed memory, as we say in Hebrew), because the damage done to the fabric of the universe that each and everyone of us contributes to was too great. Because when there's still breath, there's still hope: even if only as an abstract idea, and because there are places, such as this, where strangers can share our howls of pain.

Forgive the long and rambling posts: and, all of you, keep breathing. Things get better: things get worse, but let's not cross over to the void or whatever else subsists beyond this consciousness until we have to. After all, even the coldest of empiricists has to accept that alocal causality is a real possibility - and we do not know what might be torn apart by our own self-destruction.

So fuck it - keep breathing, even and especially when it hurts most. There is every reason, there is none, and that same alocal causin' might bring riches of happiness and hope that none of us can imagine. We are human beings, low and high, strong and weak, pointless and purposeful. Embrace the contradictions, blow a raspberry at the void, and gentile or Jew, raise a glass of something if you're drinking, and even - most of all, if it feels like a lie - toast 'L'Chaim'. 'To Life', because it hurts and hates and loves and gives and takes, and there's no way of knowing if the nothingness that lies beyond is nothingness at all, better, worse, or unimaginable. Let's make suicide our enemy and hold the line. There's reality beyond the pain, and pain beyond reality. Let's live with them both.

So goes this bird-brain's verdict on the universe and staying in it. Fuck it. Why not? David Foster Wallace should have listened to his own words: 'no single moment is in and of itself unendurable.' And anyone who has the nerve to post in this thread, to admit their own pain, is a whole lot stronger and more worthwhile than we think at our worst moments.

'Don't let them have their way/don't let them have their way/you're beautiful and so blase/so please don't let them have their way/don't fall back into the decay/there is no law we must obey/so please don't let them have their way/don't give in to yesterday/don't fall back into the decay/We can build a new tomorrow...today' - Placebo.

One foot in front of the other. Let's all keep breathing and dance until the music stops. Most of all when it hurts most.

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How did you lose your arm?

I was born missing fingers on my left hand, scared on my right hand and the tops of my toes missing on my left foot.
Sometimes I think 'why me?' like what have I done to deserve this. And sometimes it fucking sucks. Ain't gonna lie. But it just means I have every reason to say 'try me' and overcome people's expectations.

What happened? I am very sorry to hear what happened.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/730686-ya-I-was-shooting-Ambien-%28and-lost-my-arm%29
 
Fed up of being this bizarre unstable mess who will be ok and happy and productive one day and unwilling to even get out of bed the next. Fed up of sabotaging my own life. Fed up of being scared of living. Fed up of being lonely. Fed up of letting people down. Fed up hating myself. Fed up of life.
 
Fed up of being this bizarre unstable mess who will be ok and happy and productive one day and unwilling to even get out of bed the next. Fed up of sabotaging my own life. Fed up of being scared of living. Fed up of being lonely. Fed up of letting people down. Fed up hating myself. Fed up of life.

<3 I feel you bro. I can definitely relate to your first sentence there. I'm here for a chat if you need one <3.
 
Just wanted to let everyone know how helpful their posts have been. I have been going through some rough shit lately And have no one to talk to. Finally decided to post. Pm me if anyone needs help. This time last year I was in detox and off to rehab. Not sure If that's why 8 feel horrible. Captain. Herion I really appreciate all of your posts
 
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I was just with some people and I disclosed that I sometimes fantasize about finding a gun and just getting it over with.

It just came out of my mouth, like that. 8(
Luckily they seemed to understand... as one person related which helped me out… Voicing this made me feel better a bit, as I never told anyone
I am grateful sometimes.. and glad to have myself back somewhat and off drugs, but when my spine goes out and I can't move and I am nauseous with pain, I have to stop everything I'm doing and it's the most difficult situation to be in. LIFE JUST STOPS and I WAIT, then feel okay, then work again, then STOPS again after my spine goes out, then I have to WAIT lying on my back with ice, and this cycle is so very tiring I'm exhausted.
It's very difficult to plan any sort of activity, especially work follow through. I am at the point I'm not taking any new clients.

I am seeing a doctor finally tomorrow and very scared.. as I probably need another surgery and don't know if I can handle it right now. I'm going in needing 7 referrals for starters. Argh!
 
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I´m sorry you are going through this. Maybe the doctor´s appointment can turn out to be a good thing.
Good luck!
 
I´m sorry you are going through this. Maybe the doctor´s appointment can turn out to be a good thing.
Good luck!

Thank you Erikmen, It's going to be a lot of work and appointments coming up … starting with neurology and many tests, but I'm so glad I picked this doctor. I chose him cos he's an internist with thyroid subspecialties, but we got to talking and he was actually an addiction specialist in the bronx for a few years.. is under asam and knows some folks I used to work with, ha!

I had no idea he worked in addiction. I have not had an internist before with this background. Kinda stoked actually now. :)
 
That sounds really encouraging, Smoky. Finding a good doctor in the U.S. these days is like finding a needle in a haystack. :)
 
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