dopesick - how long does it take for you to feel it?

[Jabberwocky]

peeps - somewhat new to the board; well, VERY new when it comes to posting but I have been reading for a bit. saw a post earlier today having to do w/ MA/Boston so I decided to chime in and say a few things. anyway, wanted to start my own thing now, so here it is.

anyway, I've been a dopefiend for a bit now - 3 years strong but this is NOT my first time around. I am coming off about 6 years of sobriety (sobriety to me is not being a dopefiend but I was still drinking, smoking weed and prob. even ripped a few lines of coke over those 6 years, but nothing too whacky).

anyway, last month I decided to take off work for 2 weeks and check into rehab. well, I checked in and after 2 days I checked myself out. I just cant do rehab; being w/ all other addicts talking about our runs, our good times, etc, just doesnt do it for me. so I left there after day 2 and went on a 3 day ripper. after 3 days I called my parents and asked if I can pull out my old bed in the basement and stay w/ them for a week. so I checked in to my parents basement and went 7 days withdrawing at the home front. was it fun? no. always took about 24hrs before I started to feel sick. so after day 1 I was shitting my pants (mom LOVED seeing that), throwing up and twisting and turning all night (I tried ambien to sleep but it did shit). I went into rehab weighing around 170 and here I am 2 weeks later and I am at 150lbs. I def. have done dope since, even a G today, but over the last 2 weeks I prob did 2 G's total rather than the 2-3G's I was doing a day prior.

wondering how long it takes for your withdrawals to chime in? How long have you been sober before? How did you stay sober? Stay busy, right? Never easy. I am back at my own apartment now and doing my best. I am back at work Monday so that will kill my day from 9-5. Also might be checking into a program but NOT SURE if I went to go on Subox since I have already kicked the physical dependence; psychological, NO! thats why I am even considering a program.

so tell me a bit about yourself? what you did to stop, try to stop, even if no intention to stop, go ahead and tell your story. I am at the point where I am using this board to take up some time, do some different things than I was doing before, and trying my best to stay sober (although, I def. do not have EVERY intention in the world to do so, I def. need TIME OFF). sick thing to say, I know, but the truth is what it is.

 

[Jabberwocky]

nothing, huh? no replied here on bluelight about being dope sick? what does no one get dope sick? no stories of the sickness? best way to kick naturally? things that may help as you go through the misery? of course, I've been through it all already but like to hear how others have went ahead and did it themselves. also, always interested in hearing other things you may be able to do to help w/ the sickness. maybe things that I didnt already read on the internet 595995995x's.

 

[brutus]

^ Don't bump your own threads. You can't rush people to reply.

Back when I was using everything except for heroin (240mg of oxycodone per dose) I would feel sick in about 16-18 hours.

 

[Jabberwocky]

sorry about that. was just looking for more responses so i can get an idea of how others went through it. although i recently used ive been doing good and really not getting the physical withdrawals; although, mentally i am still trapped. stay busy, stay safe. get bored, get in trouble. thats how its been working. whats that say to me? well, i guess i need to stay as busy as possible, right?

 

[XThexXTank]

Shootin dope always brought the fastest withdraws for me. If i did a shot right before bed i would be withdrawin in less than 12 hours. Pills and snorting dope always takes longer. Im not currently shootin so thats a good thing. Ive recently gotten on the subs at a strip a day an so i havent withdrawn in a good bit now. Haha damn i kinda miss that everyday sick thing though. Yeah its kinda fucked up, but its so damn good to go from sick to superman.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i hear ya, kid. its whacky to think but its a "good" feeling going from "sick" to "good". the whole process is something I loved. making that phone call, getting the meet place, grabbing the dope, and then boom, bang.. I feel GOOD, AGAIN! but what said is I only feel GOOD, not high. I feel "normal" as we'd call it. but like I said above, I have been doing better than usual lately and trying my best to stay away. I got high today but regretted it shortly after. putting a best buy gift card on my best buy credit card and then having to give that best buy gift card away for dope. sick, isnt it? its sick just to think of the process and how it works/worked. sad too cuz going back 3 years ago my credit score was once above 700 and now I am about 30k in debt and ready to claim bankruptcy at the age of 30. do I have a problem that needs to be fixed? sure bet I do. I am trying and thats more than I can say I've done over the past 3 years. I've let myself fall too far; even further than I have fallen in the past.

 

[Tryptamite]

When I had a habit I'd normally wake up sick whether I'd been taking methadone every day or smoked/shot some H right before going to bed.

Now I could shoot dope in the evening and sleep in till noon because I'd still be high/dope hungover. I normally can't sleep past 9/10 am.

 

[MemphisX3]

peeps - somewhat new to the board; well, VERY new when it comes to posting but I have been reading for a bit. saw a post earlier today having to do w/ MA/Boston so I decided to chime in and say a few things. anyway, wanted to start my own thing now, so here it is.

anyway, I've been a dopefiend for a bit now - 3 years strong but this is NOT my first time around. I am coming off about 6 years of sobriety (sobriety to me is not being a dopefiend but I was still drinking, smoking weed and prob. even ripped a few lines of coke over those 6 years, but nothing too whacky).

anyway, last month I decided to take off work for 2 weeks and check into rehab. well, I checked in and after 2 days I checked myself out. I just cant do rehab; being w/ all other addicts talking about our runs, our good times, etc, just doesnt do it for me. so I left there after day 2 and went on a 3 day ripper. after 3 days I called my parents and asked if I can pull out my old bed in the basement and stay w/ them for a week. so I checked in to my parents basement and went 7 days withdrawing at the home front. was it fun? no. always took about 24hrs before I started to feel sick. so after day 1 I was shitting my pants (mom LOVED seeing that), throwing up and twisting and turning all night (I tried ambien to sleep but it did shit). I went into rehab weighing around 170 and here I am 2 weeks later and I am at 150lbs. I def. have done dope since, even a G today, but over the last 2 weeks I prob did 2 G's total rather than the 2-3G's I was doing a day prior.

wondering how long it takes for your withdrawals to chime in? How long have you been sober before? How did you stay sober? Stay busy, right? Never easy. I am back at my own apartment now and doing my best. I am back at work Monday so that will kill my day from 9-5. Also might be checking into a program but NOT SURE if I went to go on Subox since I have already kicked the physical dependence; psychological, NO! thats why I am even considering a program.

so tell me a bit about yourself? what you did to stop, try to stop, even if no intention to stop, go ahead and tell your story. I am at the point where I am using this board to take up some time, do some different things than I was doing before, and trying my best to stay sober (although, I def. do not have EVERY intention in the world to do so, I def. need TIME OFF). sick thing to say, I know, but the truth is what it is.

you may want to consider a VERY low dose of suboxone to get yourself thru the worst of the mental withdrawals. im talking like a corner of a strip. suboxone has great anti-depressant qualities. just dont take enough to get too physically dependent.


for me the actual withdrawals start around 24 hours, well, the worst of it does. going into hour 12 i start to crave it. by hour 18 i have a runny nose, the chills, hot flashes, cant stop sweating. by the 24th hour i am dry heaving or throwing up. most times i dont throw up from my stomach feeling queezy but because of that thick mucus shit you get in the back of your throat....it always makes me gag.

withdrawals are one thing. the pain, which is why i still do opiates, will kick in 3-8 hours after ingestion, depending on the chemical. the pain after a shot of dilaudid will return within 3 hours. if i take a shot of some decent H it will keep the pain at bay for around 8 hours, give or take, depending on the quality/purity

 

[Jabberwocky]

i never really experienced pain? plenty of times i did not feel comfortable at all. id be it would be very tough sleeping because i just could not be comfortable. is that what we are considering pain? if so, that was a pain in the ass. putting my hands between my legs would hurt, my hands under pillow hurt, etc. just wasnt doing it for me.

 

[MemphisX3]

i never really experienced pain? plenty of times i did not feel comfortable at all. id be it would be very tough sleeping because i just could not be comfortable. is that what we are considering pain? if so, that was a pain in the ass. putting my hands between my legs would hurt, my hands under pillow hurt, etc. just wasnt doing it for me.

who said that?

 

[Jabberwocky]

you said THE PAIN, which starts 3-8 hours. didnt you? i said i said i dont do opiates for pain; although, I had brain a tumor/cancer and had that surgery of the heat cut open and partial portion of the tumor removed. still, pain is NOT why i am on these/this thing. i was using opiates/dope before the cancer/tumor came, plus, the tumor is such a low level tumor it's NOT something i worry about still; although, still VERY serious its not something id ever use as an excuse for my opiates abuse. my opiate abuse is caused by me and only me.

what you mentioned about subs COULD be something i may try but i still feel it's a mental game. i am trying to stay away total; then again, i cant even stay away from dope itself so why not stay on subox till that time away from dope comes? might be something i want to try. my dr. appointment w/ addiction specialist come tuesday (third meeting) and i am either going on subox or the shot that last 30 days (cant believe i forgot the name).

anyway, i appreciate ALL THE FEEDBACK and ALL THE SUPPORT i get from these forums. its nice to talk to other addicts rather than those who read, studied, or pretend to know about it. like layne staley, alice in chains said, "you can't understand a user's mind. but try with your books and degrees". this lyric/verse couldnt be more true.

 

[Zerrr]

Vivitrol

 

[Jabberwocky]

Vivitrol

yup. thats what I am going to shoot for. any good/bad stories to tell? you gotta be clean 7 days prior or else they put you on the pills. if i wasnt working I would just ask for the vivitrol shot and get it done w/ regardless of when the last time i used was.

 

[Zerrr]

All I know is it blocks the effects of the high but not the effects on your respitory system. So you can't get high but you can o.d. I take subs and sometimes I get depressed knowing that the sub will prevent me from getting high today. I can't imagine what it would be like knowing I can't get high for a whole month.8(

 

[MemphisX3]

you said THE PAIN, which starts 3-8 hours. didnt you? i said i said i dont do opiates for pain; although, I had brain a tumor/cancer and had that surgery of the heat cut open and partial portion of the tumor removed. still, pain is NOT why i am on these/this thing. i was using opiates/dope before the cancer/tumor came, plus, the tumor is such a low level tumor it's NOT something i worry about still; although, still VERY serious its not something id ever use as an excuse for my opiates abuse. my opiate abuse is caused by me and only me.

what you mentioned about subs COULD be something i may try but i still feel it's a mental game. i am trying to stay away total; then again, i cant even stay away from dope itself so why not stay on subox till that time away from dope comes? might be something i want to try. my dr. appointment w/ addiction specialist come tuesday (third meeting) and i am either going on subox or the shot that last 30 days (cant believe i forgot the name).

anyway, i appreciate ALL THE FEEDBACK and ALL THE SUPPORT i get from these forums. its nice to talk to other addicts rather than those who read, studied, or pretend to know about it. like layne staley, alice in chains said, "you can't understand a user's mind. but try with your books and degrees". this lyric/verse couldnt be more true.

yea, i was talking about my pain. i had a 12 level spinal fusion. pain is what ultimately brought me back to opiates when i kicked them altogether for about 8 months 3 months after my surgery.


i think you best bet would be to get on subs. if you cant stay away from dope you might as well get on suboxone which would help with cravings and sickness but also would inhibit your ability to get "high" from opiates.

 

[Le'Mix]

Yes I agree with the subs, one of my best m8's got bang on the H, lost his G/F, ended up in jail the lot. Has since thankfully not got back on it, but totally needs the subs to keep him away from it, or at least for now he does.

Swears by them, just sniffs half a pill twice a day I think and that keeps any cravings at bay.

 

[Jabberwocky]

but why not the vivitrol? i have subs sitting here but never got into them. i just hate the testing, feeling, everything. that never made my sickness/drive go away. even if i did 16MG sub between 8AM and 12PM by 5/6PM ill be out trying to score dope. knowing that the dope wont d a damn thing but yet still TRYING. thats what i want to end, the craving. i truly feel i have kicked the withdrawal part (physical, of course) but mentally it still had hold of me, which is why i sit here and write this after already medicating myself today around 1PM. im out of meds and will be out of money and dope for a few days, thank god. its weird cuz in my worst (only a month or 2 ago) i was doing 2-3G's a day but today I did what he sold as a half gram but more-so a forty and blasted that and felt just as high as I normally would. although, my forearm is still aching from the shot which I think is weird but im not too worried since everything looks normal. not sure why below the vein, in the middle of the forearm hurts tho since I shot at the closing point in the elbow. ay idea?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

48 hours or so, when I was shooting dilaudid just for that sweet rush and only had 3-4 4mg dillies a day it was the next morning...i'm so happy to be out of that shit

 

[cfl]

48 hours or so, when I was shooting dilaudid just for that sweet rush and only had 3-4 4mg dillies a day it was the next morning...i'm so happy to be out of that shit

I second this. I get dopesick much sooner off Dilaudid than when I am shooting bags

 

[Sherminator2]

Takes me 8-12 hours to withdraw from IV heroin, depending on the amount I've done- a bundle, 12 hrs, 4 or 5 bags, more like 8 hrs.