Magickduck
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That's what I meant. Put your cookie on the (*). Do your ritual. Then, eat your sperm covered cookie. It is powerful magick. You could make it even stronger by baking a few drops of menstrual blood into the cookie.
Well I guess that would be the point of an (X) and a (*) so as to put input on X and output on *, so you do not need to eat sperm, lol
^that's an interesting theory - have you looked into channeling? my father had some spiritual therapist who got him into it and whether bullshit or not, it worked. The process was similar to charging a stone as you say, basically, putting out intentions/desires to spirits (energies if you like) and having them returned physically somehow (to the stone in your case). I've read about reiki a bit and shamanism and using my mind to take dark 'energy' from people and replace it with 'pink' energy which i associate with love, basically in my third eye, the dark energy evaporates or moves like a cloud and is then replaced with this 'pink' energy. I learned this practice somewhere but can't remember exactly but it seems to work for massages and treating mental health issues.
If one were to visualize a certain kind of energy in their third eye and move it into the stone to charge it up that would be interesting and i think could be scientifically measured if it actually occurs. If the collective consciousness started to believe that a certain crystal or stone or object had such and such qualities, would that actually change anything about that substance/object? Would certain materials/crystals/stones be better for storing a charge? kind of like batteries? or materials used in capacitors? Why not charge up a tree? that seems far more intuitive to me.
I intuitively believe this 'energy' that is being spoken of exists and is real from my experiences. I don't think it's as simple as it's not the same kind of energy as discussed in the sciences, rather that we haven't figured out what kind of energy it is, or if the word energy just doesn't properly describe whatever is going on.
thanks for the explanation foreigner. Perhaps i'll have to try one of those crystals out while tripping or something and see what happens. When i am tripping i am super sensitive to everything (can see auras and such) but when i'm not, well i'm cut off from all things spiritual in nature for the most part. I like to keep an open mind about such things and at least try things out before dismissing it entirely so i'd likely opt for a supposedly powerful one and see what happens when i hold it while tripping hard.
in terms of energy, like kundalini rising, there must be some way to detect that. I don't think there's any denying that something is happening during these experiences, in some way i think they cause some sort of chemical reaction or are a catalyst for such a reaction in a similar way that psychedelics are.
It would be cool to see some brain scans/imaging of people holding certain crystals or while in certain states (I think this has been done hasn't it?). I took a course in mysticism and i have the book the scared and the profane by eliad but haven't read it in a long time.... as well as that book by Otto that talks about mysterium tremendum and the numinous. It seems like many of the mystical experiences people have had sound a hell of a lot like a strong psychedelic experience. I consistently get a numinous experience from dissociatives.
i'll still stick to my guns and say that no form of energy is more powerful than another. But say, the energy from a kundalini rising could be measured in joules or something, that would be pretty damn interesting. I've felt that intense energy, kind of like a manic or hypomanic energy or the energy from a ++++ experience or that energy you feel when you have a psychotic break.... it must be possible in some way to measure all of that, either through brain imaging, scales or something we have yet to invent. At that point, we could finally say, what kind of energy it is and could measure it in whatever unit, then you could actually measure which method of producing such energy is the most efficacious or powerful on an individual basis at least.
if you want to talk about straight up spiritual energy and disregard science for the purpose of this discussion then i think channeling is the most powerful form or method of transferring or enacting change/performing work (which is what energy does). Energy in any sense is not observable but can be accounted for and calculated.
Channeling as far as what, spirits? I find no need to deal with any other deity than myself of the Everything (God?) - as in you and I and everything combined - which I believe to be cogniscant of itself as a whole. I find I have enough power within myself and if not in what I am part of that I need not invoke seperate spirits of this spirits of that, etc. I think whatever way you interpret it, it works.... you may be interested in reading this article: (I do not associate myself as a chaos magician as I believe in a steady God and most do not but nevertheless)
http://iotna.thanateros.org/chaos.php
The main point of this thread before I deleted the first post was to use these energies in rituals, so I guess channeling raw energy (sexual energy thru semen thru an input stone) into some transmuter stones to change that energy into the vibration of Love, or of confidence, then direct it into a stone, or as another user suggested, a cookie.
I would agree that no energy is inherently more powerful than another (unless that energy SEEMS more intense or strong to the specific practitioner I suppose - an example of this is blood seems to seem like this to most people) but I guess the point here would be for us to manifest more efficiently, so as to not have to spend 8 hrs meditating over something and visualizing it to manifest it, but simply have more powerful energy we can amplify to manifest that same thing in 2 seconds, you see?
I have met people who have told me it is impossible to 'imprint' wood, and you could only do it with crystals. To this, I call bullshit, I believe you can make any object a magical object.
Though, something about crystals seems to be almost palpable. As in I can feel the energies held within easier than in that wood, as if they are meant to hold these energies.
And I definitely think some are better for holding different types of vibrations than others, though I find plain quartz to work for most anything.
I think science is light years away from understanding how to measure these types of energies or even accepting that they exist. Though I do remember some guy showing me this certain type of light that if shined on a crystal in a dark room you could see these tiny little sparks almost moving around the edge of the stone and inside of it... and on the crystals I had charged up there were TONS and on stones i had recently cleared there was little to none..