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Salutations ikSaxophone,

Very nice.

Thank you, especially if one considers it only invites for more customization/experiments instead of offering a finished ready-made commercially-available product. :)

M'well, "Plan-B" is good enough for me but how can i find total plenitude/serenity knowing "Plan-A" still remains the view of one mind when in fact it may very well avoid future obsolescence (once commercially implemented by VaporGenie) and even dominate the vaporist market for the next couple centuries, just like Graham Bell's telephone or the incandescent lamp of Thomas Edisson!... ;)

After all it's not like electromagnetic induction heat is about to become a technological relic anytime soon.

...I looked but couldn't find it.

Just a couple days ago on a different system i was accused of being a manufacturer and/or spammer, based on my parody of a mercantile publishing format (actually this was a hostile mix based on forged reputation imports i figured)... The fact is it shouldn't prove too hard to find the missing bits simply by re-using tag-words like "Self-Moisturizing"/"Auto-Conditioning", "Flash Vaporisation", "Micro-Bursting", etc. Google has been of great help during those last few years!... Maybe i didn't put everything in one single location but that's for the best in retrospective.

In any case it's always pleasant to have friendly visitors passing by!

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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Take note this is showing a setup which is NOT optimized for left-handed operation:

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When holding/pre-heating my pipe on its side that makes the location of eventual sensor LEDs convenient enough as a result of their alignment with sufficient free space located on top and also between my index and thumb on the bottom, while all 4 fibers (1 sensor pair per end of PVC Tubing Extension) gather together inside my hand's palm forming a sensor connection cable.

The 2 new aligned holes might as well allow installation of a laser LED projecting light out of the top aperture, right through my tube's material (inside metal/plastic mating junction) which would also diffuse some light within the flexible material itself... Such a scene should prove to look great at night, i figure.

Etc.

The idea illustrated here was suggested by my old father after i explained to him that i was trying to stick to VG's spherical theme...

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The additional metal sphere would be mid-range in diameter between that of those other spheres on each side of a PVC Extention Tube which it slips on, with optic fibers simply supported by inserting them in the interstice separating metal and plastic.
 
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Salutations,

Time for a definitive conclusion, this dedicated thread can be marked as SOLVED at last!!

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Trying to always keep "Lava" in mind...

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Then refocussing on more immediate needs, my definitive "Basic"/"Agile" all-purpose Single-Sphere Hybrid Core cfg.:

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(Monobloc = 15.64 mm tall/deep.)

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No additional "tweaking" seems suitable/possible! Appreciate how little "baking" that is considering it was captured after a dense toke that could have felt just too potent for practically anyone, i figure...

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Then as a conclusion i wanted to show my former socio-toxic consumption tool which is many decades older...

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At left, YUK! On the right side, YUMMY!!

:)


And finally here are links to alternate sources, just in case it can be useful:


...maybe even in a thousand years, who knows!...

;)

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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Salutations,

Time for a definitive conclusion, this dedicated thread can be marked as SOLVED at last!!

Although i don't have all the resources, time and energy to complement/correct this thread-closing post as well as i'd want to i must admit ThujOne made quite some good points since the last few years and i wish i could feel up to a recent challenge of his which i find most appropriate, though something has come to my attention at last which calls for a quick retrospective and then a major priority update that i find essential nonetheless.

A summary + conclusion on the process may be too ambitious for me but i can try to refer to external resources which survived the passage of time:


Four years ago my views on induction already included "FLASH" (burst) vaporizers with a "punch", in apprehension of concentrated (time-compressed) aromatic release. The moddified VaporGenie pipe does that now while maintaining inclusion of a Self-Moisturizating feature for those who can't stand Dry-Baking Ovenizers, but...

While the seasons passed there's an event i had little knowledge of until i started looking at this patent (i yet have to go through it...):

DynaVap (George R. Breiwa), patent WO 2017011698 A1 (Exothermal vaporizer, publ. 2017-Jan-19)

« ...a fluid inlet port in communication with a reservoir, an air inlet, and a wicking material... »
« ...a wicking material or evaporation matrix... »

« ...designed to function reliably when heated with almost any heat source of sufficient thermal intensity... »

So i just thought WOW! Great, even if i got the news kind of late, and then that wasn't the end of my surprize!

...

First of all i wasn't expecting to realize how hard mister Breiwa had been working on his concept nor could i have figured the time-frame, including in days when i wish i had known better actually:

Tubular Volatizing Device (US 20140186015 A1)

« ...the thermo-indicator provides an indication of the optimum temperature... »

Briefly put this concept beats mine and not only in terms of "Bi-Energy"! In addition it makes no trade-off over compatibility provisions for Self-Moisturization/Auto-Conditioning it seems. Meanwhile Induction Heat has been put to test with some fine enthousiasm and i find this most refreshing, really!



Hummm... Now i'm day-dreaming again!...

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:D

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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what's most interesting to me is seeing how the two concepts diverged, DynaVap a model for electronics-free vapourising and the "inhaler" patent that became the basis for contemporary liquid e-cig design. the OmniVap induction heater is pretty interesting too but toking THC vapour through a bubbler seems pointless to me. i am still more interested in the Egzoset design that focuses on dry filtering and then adding clean moisture to the THC vapour, maybe you should push towards a final design and file a patent yourself then you could have it mass-produced and license the design!
 
Salutations ThujOne,

...maybe you should push towards a final design and file a patent yourself...

Oh well, let me just assure you that won't/can't happen. Anyway the ideas gathered as my "Lava" concept, which were born out of a fantasy for adults so to speak, might simply die otherwise and that's certainly not how i conceive my own contribution in the greater context. Maybe i should continue to insist that i don't pretend being anything else than a member of a virtual forum, that i invite other members to exercise their own legit criticism by sharing testimonies and replicating the experiences of others, etc. On another hand i'm glad that i had a few good intuitions when i started asking Induction Heat questions in 2010 - and often went into my fair share of trouble from then on... Etc., etc.

8)

Now here's a contrasting sample of a patented "contribution" that left its lasting mark in our recent industrial history: a machine by James Albert Bonsack (1859-Oct-9, Roanoke/Virginia to 1924-Jun-2, Philadelphia).

I dunno about you but personally i had never heard of him before relatively recently and i'm a former heavy smoker both of tobacco and hashish myself...

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The guy invented that cigarette rolling machine for his very own mercantile motivations - which plagued humanity as a result of tobacco SMOKING turned into a health problem on the planetary scale. In the end he got his money while a significant part of the world inherited the associated socio-toxic nuisance($) and yet how many of us remembers or even knew about it?! In addition one has to wonder who cared "for the children" at all, 1+ century ago?...

8(

Decidedly if a device is capable of "saving" the children of planet Itnoc it won't be at such elevated cost i believe. So, any means will do as long as the "seed" has some fair chances to develop then help disseminate that which seems to lack some manufacturers so desperately today: m'well, a change of perspective(s) for starters, i guess.

:|

As for how "Harm-Reduction" features such as "Micro-Dosage"/"Micro-Bursting" (or "Micro-Toking"?...) can be implemented best i'd have to argue i only care for the final outcome. If it's going to help eradicate the pyrolysis of rolling paper + glue + vegetal substrate (laced with Trudeau's "Mari-Caca" Hydrogen Cyanide and whatnot!) from the environment then that's satisfying enough i think. Not to mention the DynaVap consumption method appears to come at a slightly more affordable cost while i consider economic$ are also an important factor within the grand overall equation...

On the "to-do" side though i find those VapCap exposed parts a bit too intimidating considering it's meant to get burning-hot; in comparison i much prefer my LavaCapsule strategy:

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(Fictional and unfinished...)

Perhaps not using as much heat insulation, then i wouldn't resist the urge to tag it "DynaCapsule" (with their "CCD Screen" inside) i suppose, etc.

;)

...electronics-free vapourising...

That but not only, the patent is clearly inclusive of other heat sources which might prove convenient as well. Induction Heat, since it allows more precise "packetization" of Heat Charge injection in IH mode, etc., for example...

...the basis for contemporary liquid e-cig design.

M'well, those poor e-Cig people need some good help too!...

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...toking THC vapour through a bubbler seems pointless to me. i am still more interested in the Egzoset design that focuses on dry filtering and then adding clean moisture to the THC vapour...

Thanks, i'm glad someone noticed! =D

It's effectively aroma/taste oriented and any filtering comes at a trade-off cost. In the Bronze Sherlock pipe, for example, i get the constant impression the main/large (2nd) cavity under its cannabic bowl captures particles as a result of vortex currents; which kind of confirms each time i care to clean it up, before airflow is affected significantly... When using an uni-directional/near-symetrical capsule setup under an Induction Heat context, in combination with Curie alloys, or perhaps just SS304 (TC ~ 200 °C as i recall...), it should become possible to render the "filter" self-cleaning as it is also radiating heat on the post-vaporization side. Another advantage of the CCD Screen layout is its compatibility with dynamic transducers, all it takes is a continuous magnetic field to "excite" the "membrane" using inductor coils, that's it: voilà, ultra-sonic shaking as a bonus.

To top it all the CCD Screen can be set to click when it reaches its target temperature, which is going to be picked-up by a 10th driver coil, for subsequent quadrature demodulation since the IH driver clock would happen to be locally available in a same table accessory anyway, etc. In other words the owner would be warned both by the click and the base station since it would have the means to detect such transitional event, e.g. the same way it does tap commands - while i also expect those clicks to come with a specific signature. Etc.



Those CCD Screens seem tiny so i don't know if a single unit can provide sufficient energy for my own intended range of applications, which integrates Self-Moisturizing/Auto-Conditioning and hence require some extra punch to heat up a droplet of distilled water (or two...) via an auxiliary boiler/evaporater, etc... Stored heat depends on mass and temperature, then airflow (aero/thermo dynamics kick in), so... If there's going to be a thermal bottle then this shall call for 2 of them indeed, i figure. Hence here are on-line tools for those who'd be tempted to get an evaluation of what it implies (in Joules, as i recall):

Materials Weight Calculator
[ http://www.hibid.co.uk/metcalc/metcalc.html ]

Specific HeatCapacity Equation -- EndMemo Calculator
[ http://www.endmemo.com/physics/specificheat.php ]​​

(...)

On another hand i must keep in mind i only have 2 batteries available - out of 3, actually, because while cyclic permutations of 2 go on in sequence a 3rd cell is always falling in "iddle" state...

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And of course i didn't give up my appetite for bio-feedback, on the contrary! So if it's meant to have a tap-touch/audible user-interface hidden within a self-cleaning filter doubling as an ultra-sonic bowl stirred - plus the main IH role, euh... Then this is my vision for a DeLuxe IH solution with everything packed in:

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(Fictional and unfinished...)

Which is direct 3-Phase power conversion as heat...

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(Fictional and unfinished...)

That would be 3 sets of 3 coils, e.g. each set run @ a 120° phase angle (from each other) on 2 batteries through a power transistor matrix linked to digital control, possibly wireless, etc.

Except i wouldn't want any burning-hot parts exposed as previously suggested below:

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(Fictional and unfinished...)

Instead it woud need to be a "bicephale" sort of pipe, possibly with 2 Hybrid Cores heating the cannabic bowl, e.g. from both sides or in a reversible configuration as i just explained above, collecting the noble molecules via its central axis in a 2-cores scenario or from the opposite side turned into a self-cleaning filter when uni-directional/reversible. The handle would be non-magnetic and have a large pass-through opening with sealed/separated internal aerial circuits coupling with the handle's main inhalation and "PinHole" conduits at the mating interface inside, using little more technology than boring high-temperature/food-grade "O-Rings" and a few other tricks to offer some neat, fully adjustable device that even *I* can rely on...

...indefinitely, until there are no "lost" children left on planet Itnoc, etc!

;)

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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UPDATE:



Couldn't resist the urge...

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...and now day-dreaming even further!

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Could that be the Saint-Graäl revealing itself to me, in the most mysterious ways - again?...

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Euh...

Is it just me or TinyPic.Com has gone off-line??

An external observation would be useful i guess.

Thanks, good day! =D
 
Euh...

Is it just me or TinyPic.Com has gone off-line??

An external observation would be useful i guess.

Thanks, good day! =D


Is that where you're hosting all the pics you've posted?

Because I can still see 'em all.
 
Salutations Jibult,

Is that where you're hosting all the pics you've posted?

Yes, and there's been some major disruptions these last few days, since i started to use this image - or more precisely since my recent activity on YouTube actually (...):

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(Cannabis -dot- Com)

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(Google+)

picture.php

(iCMag)​

...and more.

The host is now on-line but my replies to its bot-challenging filter never succeed anymore. So i won't hide that i had thoughts for FC's "computer specialists" and similar... The net has so much "LOVE" to distribute - and memory. Or maybe it's only a glitch, but then what if other people succeed posting the .PNG and never me?... What made the host want to declassify my rank so brutally?

M'well, i hope i was simply too quick with my preliminary conclusions; at least it appears the stars align perfectly at the moment. Lets see what happens in a few more days!

Because I can still see 'em all.

Thank you, this has been of help as it cleared some of the apparent/possible confusion. Please don't hesitate to remove of the external links shown above if that's not appropriate.

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
Salutations Mr.Giggles,

Just a bong and rizla for me...

Actually i can't care less what works for another member when i already explained how that fails to work here, no thanks. But we can dialog together and start making the matter clearer for the benefit of future readers since you seem to care so much. What's so great in having a bong in your pocket or not, for example, etc. Please remember this thread exists for those who might benefit from it, and hence it doesn't require your permission to exist. Yet feel free to express more "informative" content, m'well... if you manage to think of more, that is!...

This long 2013 ~ 2017 series of experiments awaits your criticism through trial & error if you dare: replicate some yourself then come back to comment with actual 1st-person knowledge - or shut up.

I always try to welcome a fair exchange when there is an opportunity, the rest is just jiberish noise imported for some obscure reason, probably not even related to this present board when considering you've registered less than a week ago. Coïncidence??

...

Now mister moderator, do you understand what we've been discussing in private recently?... For some people it's not enough that this thread should loose momentum and gradually vanish from memories, it has to be declared SOLVED then closed or this will be its ultimate fate: a piss corner for trolls trying to establish their territory.

IMO perhaps a quick clean-up may even prove desirable (to dust off this new sample of nuisance!), ideally...

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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P. S.: I'm still locked out by the bot-challenging filter of TinyPic this morning.

Please, more help (especially after the previous hit 'n run insult in disguise of Mr.Giggles!) would be quite appreciated at this particular point.

;)
 
Salutations,

M'well ThujOne, ain't this just like i expected the "bumping" would end up?!...


  • Provocation using totally off-topic bored "Hit 'n Run" 1-liner
  • More topic-steering performed by importing instant (forged) Drama Queen reputation(s)...
  • Physical/Direct topic obstruction using INTEGRAL QUOTING dating back to July 5, 2013!
  • Piling up a cheap stack of challenges calling for self-flooding (exponential/impossible) reply.
  • Last but not least: louzy talking-ape rudeness.

To me that's the signature of a TROLL, not to mention just a day ago i was posting this on YouTube, despite my sudden/inconvenient TinyPic (aHummm...) problems:




...

Yesterday a contribution on YouTube, today some troll trophy on BlueLight. Do the math!

:|

So it's quite about time to close this thread definitively, don't you agree?! Anyway VaporGenie (and now DynaVap) would be pleased i'm sure.

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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It seems the TinyPic host now rejects *ME* systematically and i still don't know who's responsible for this CYBER-ATTACK. Is it coming from a FuckCombustion bully trying to avenge an offence dating back to 2010?... Or maybe the Loto Labs "team" which just happened to drop their "Evoke" trade-name, quite likely to evade previous criticism accumulated over the years (...), claiming to be most "excited" with their pleasure to announce (...) plain "rebranding" (name, web site, logo...) and of course with even more suspense awaiting ahead! Etc...

Actually i'm starting to believe it could be a mix of both, FC + Loto Labs having some twisted fun, using multiple identities, etc., etc. Or possibly something less elaborate, as Arizer fans for example, whatever.

Call me paranoïd, the fact remains i can't join more images to my TinyPic collection - which hate-lovers/love-haters appreciate as they must find it most convenient i'm sure. So here's an alternative 3rd-party hosted link instead:


In addition here's a little bonus:


Don't hesitate to submit alternatives (and/or even pass it around, for updates).
 
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SOLVED - Quite ready for evaluation and hopefully more future observations/findings!

Euh...

...and then the "love" (read "war") continued - after being transported/disseminated elsewhere, once again:


http://boards.cannabis.com/threads/egzosets-modded-vaporgenie-classic-pipe.215700/
CdC: Egzoset's Modded VaporGenie Classic Pipe (2015-Sep-19)

Cannabis.com - The World's Cannabis Site - Error
The
requested thread could not be found.


So i've attempted to leave related information to the attention of eventual visitors who will get a "missing page" error:


http://boards.cannabis.com/threads/the-future-of-harm-reduction-vs-vaporization-in-canada.222871/

CdC: The future of "Harm Reduction" vs Vaporization in Canada... (2016-Dec-14)


http://boards.cannabis.com/threads/prospect-for-new-bi-energy-pipe-using-butane-electro-magnetic-induction-heat.216403/

CdC: Prospect for new Bi-Energy pipe using Butane & electro-magnetic Induction Heat! (2015-Nov-11)


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Actually i'm expecting more "love" ahead so please use some indulgeance by simply considering this as a bottle to the sea.

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Now lets have another look at that single image which appears to have triggered this whole recent cyber chain-reaction, euh...

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It's all there and nobody will see it until i provide some more hints i guess, consequently i'll do my best once again (maximizing my time before that's gone too?!)...

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M'well, here it is. When the opposite ends are sealed the auxiliary boilers/evaporators can only send the newly generated water vapor (from a droplet or two) through an Hybrid Core then my Cannabic Bowl in the middle, then it should eventually accumulate past the O-Ring (sealed multi-channel) Mating Junction, inside my flexible PVC Extension Tube (not shown here) and where heat should prove to have dropped radically i presume. Not to mention there's a tiny cotton mass to pass by as well...

The TC0 point being set around 135 °C - for the purpose of discussion, euh... Which implies the cannabis vegetal substrate would get conductively (hence progressively) Pre-Heated to that temperature while no steam can remain in the Hybrid Core(s) neither: IH Driving transfers energy to the remaining 2 alloys which got their Curie temperatures set by design (metallurgically at the foundry) to TC1 and TC2 respectively. Which implies nowhere in immediate proximity such added moisture shall exist below its evaporation point for long.

N. B.: Each auxiliary boiler/evaporator section may also include/integrate customizable capacity cavities holding a bit more steam if necessary.

Theoretically a LavaCapsule can be powered-up by having a "Heat Charge" directly injected inside each Hybrid Core while the path is already "Auto-Contitioned" with a few droplets of distilled water - or even using eventual e-Liquid formulations capable of emulating the nostalgic aroma/taste of a lit "joint"... Someday/somehow, who knows!...

:D

By the time the Hybrid Cores reach their target Curie points there's only very little super-hot steam around, no carbonic gas nor "zero impurities" (comet dust) from a butane can. Only pure water moisturization and a very faint amount of it, just what it takes to support a self-awareness visual-feedback feature as well as "Inlet Conditioning" meant for maximized customer inclusivity: e.g. no more cough! cough!

So, now we got hot dry air mixed (read "potentialized") with super-hot steam ready to briefly fuel a stream which i refer to as the "Release/Transport Agent", because once inhalation has begun we would set things in motion - which is where my concept shines best since it's dynamic in nature. In other words long steady operation would result in over-heating, etc.

The ritual is structured as a series of pulses instead: my bet is on the shortest possible "Heat Bubble" to experiment with "Time-Compressed" appreciation or else, which reventually inspired me the expressions "Micro-Bursting"/"Micro-Dosage" which are about thermostatically "saturated" cores and then as a consequence of their respective finite "specific heat" and mass that should effectively implement metered ("Packetized") injection of a "Heat Charge", at least in principle. Plus, analog-style heat adjustement since we have 2 fixed references available to provide the desired range of applications; it would only be a matter of rotating the capsule slightly to set that adjustment, with the mobile half-moon ends facing complementary half-moon fresh-air inlets positioned 180° appart between the two ends... In addition there can be many cores designed/calibrated for specific missions, etc., etc.

To a vegetal substrate the sequence of events would look something like this: at 1st there's a wall of silicon carbide (SiC) foam behaving as a thermal insulator - as long as no air moves, that is. The device is in "iddle" state and remains static, hence not much to be seen so far... Then all the sudden it seems an intense front-wave of stored energy invades the space past that wall, while the core starts to get gradually depleeted already: Fresh-new room-temperature (relatively dry) air is being admitted right behind, of course... Then here's the catch, that brief wave is only possible/practical because it was previously "potentiated" with super-hot moisture - similarily to some new line(s) of kitchen ovens i think (a proof-of-concept on some very different scale, evidently!)... With yet another benefit: the cold front-wave promotes a maximum of "conservation" by avoiding all unwanted "baking" (from pointless prolonged heating as in Dry-Baking Ovenizing machines, for example!).

In any case if it's good for a well-established manufacturer, m'well... I started to believe, hard! That water is doing something, don't expect NASA-height explanations but that's NOT equivalent to all those Ovenizers which invaded the market and that i cannot stand anymore.

It's only a window i've opened with my modded "prototyping platform". Sorry but i can't be around forever hoping another human being shall be curious enough to do what it takes to find out what exactly remains to be seen on the other side: that's discovery in progress for me included, too bad there are professional trolls who can do anything in their obscure powers to stop a guy like me from sharing an opportunity like that.

M'well... At least someone cares, obviously! %)

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Now please, i'm about to supplicate BL's officials here: would you consider my past repeated requests about declaring this present thread "SOLVED" *AND* even ready for archive??

PLEASE.

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
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