The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 1
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Me and a friend took 2 150 µg blotters of this last weekend at Latitude festival, all I can say is it's really really wonderful.
I think this environment was pretty much perfect for the trip as it's an incredibly relaxed festival - more to just explore and see than just see headline acts and that there was a lot of spoken word which felt incredibly resonant on all the drugs, also the weather was incredible.
Effects came on about half an hour after taking and the first alerts were that I found blue colour of the huge flags blowing in the wind to be really pronounced and soon I started seeing Storoway's music wash out over the stage and onto us. (seeing music is an effect I've only had before on high dose 4-aco dmt)
Very similar effects profile to LSD but shorter. Some of the most beautiful visuals I've ever seen. Kind of soft light pastel colours especially but so bright and rich moving very gently it was spectacular. In the tent everything became a beautiful fabric tapestry even my hands were made of fabric and intricately patterened. The festival is also mostly in a forest, which to be in was just the most magical and peaceful thing The visual component reminded me a little of the visuals which I get on low-dose DPT which I also find to be very gentle and soft. Felt quite nice on the body but overall fairly neutral.
Quite a bit later we took MDMA which was extremely euphoric on the tail end of the AL-LAD but I can't say there was any huge synergy as it had mostly worn off.
Might write a full TR up if I have the time
I think this environment was pretty much perfect for the trip as it's an incredibly relaxed festival - more to just explore and see than just see headline acts and that there was a lot of spoken word which felt incredibly resonant on all the drugs, also the weather was incredible.
Effects came on about half an hour after taking and the first alerts were that I found blue colour of the huge flags blowing in the wind to be really pronounced and soon I started seeing Storoway's music wash out over the stage and onto us. (seeing music is an effect I've only had before on high dose 4-aco dmt)
Very similar effects profile to LSD but shorter. Some of the most beautiful visuals I've ever seen. Kind of soft light pastel colours especially but so bright and rich moving very gently it was spectacular. In the tent everything became a beautiful fabric tapestry even my hands were made of fabric and intricately patterened. The festival is also mostly in a forest, which to be in was just the most magical and peaceful thing The visual component reminded me a little of the visuals which I get on low-dose DPT which I also find to be very gentle and soft. Felt quite nice on the body but overall fairly neutral.
Quite a bit later we took MDMA which was extremely euphoric on the tail end of the AL-LAD but I can't say there was any huge synergy as it had mostly worn off.
Might write a full TR up if I have the time
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Based on my friend's notes:
Aforementioned three quarters of a 150-µg blotter were bioassayed orally in a 27-year-old male experienced with psychedelics, no particular taste was reported. Onset was in line with above reports with first visual awareness within 45 minutes. Minor GI disturbances, similar to those commonly expected by subject with the regular 6-substituted methyl analogue (LSD-25) to which the material was reported extremely similar, albeit much stronger in effects throughout the session. Perhaps some tentative psychosis. Slight ego inflation. Fair amount of introspection. Auditory discomfort reported with higher pitches. OEV very fractals tending towards reds. Experience overall very positive. Total duration: 6 to 9 hours, including insomnia. No tremor was reported throughout the experience. Severe insomnia accompanied with anxiety in the tail end, however subsequent sleep was satisfying. Anxiety rashes, common in the subject, were present, although one should not obliviate the possibility of an allergic reaction to the material.
Aforementioned three quarters of a 150-µg blotter were bioassayed orally in a 27-year-old male experienced with psychedelics, no particular taste was reported. Onset was in line with above reports with first visual awareness within 45 minutes. Minor GI disturbances, similar to those commonly expected by subject with the regular 6-substituted methyl analogue (LSD-25) to which the material was reported extremely similar, albeit much stronger in effects throughout the session. Perhaps some tentative psychosis. Slight ego inflation. Fair amount of introspection. Auditory discomfort reported with higher pitches. OEV very fractals tending towards reds. Experience overall very positive. Total duration: 6 to 9 hours, including insomnia. No tremor was reported throughout the experience. Severe insomnia accompanied with anxiety in the tail end, however subsequent sleep was satisfying. Anxiety rashes, common in the subject, were present, although one should not obliviate the possibility of an allergic reaction to the material.
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Interesting report, ZFC. Every report, including my own experience, we've seen a concentration of roses, reds, pinks, and in some cases, blues.
I've acquired some of the blotters with al-lad on one side and the molecule on the back from an RC vendor, these blotters seem a bit bigger than any LSD-25 I've had (I've had 4 different blotters) measuring at 3/8 inch each. Does everyone else's blotters match this size?
Also I hate to do this, and bring upon speculation that's unwanted, but I'm a littled spooked by sephers (RIP) recent passing. His trip report was what pushed me over the edge to purchase this, but I can't help but be a little weary about the fact that his last thread was an AL-LAD trip report...Can anyone confirm without revealing much information that AL-LAD played no role in his passing?
Once again, RIP. It always hits a weird note when someone I've never met dies on any discussion board I frequent, makes you all seem almost, real?
Also I hate to do this, and bring upon speculation that's unwanted, but I'm a littled spooked by sephers (RIP) recent passing. His trip report was what pushed me over the edge to purchase this, but I can't help but be a little weary about the fact that his last thread was an AL-LAD trip report...Can anyone confirm without revealing much information that AL-LAD played no role in his passing?
Once again, RIP. It always hits a weird note when someone I've never met dies on any discussion board I frequent, makes you all seem almost, real?
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Watched that video a little while ago. Very interesting. Definitely worth a shot.
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Me and a friend took 2 150 µg blotters of this last weekend at Latitude festival, all I can say is it's really really wonderful.
I think this environment was pretty much perfect for the trip as it's an incredibly relaxed festival - more to just explore and see than just see headline acts and that there was a lot of spoken word which felt incredibly resonant on all the drugs, also the weather was incredible.
Effects came on about half an hour after taking and the first alerts were that I found blue colour of the huge flags blowing in the wind to be really pronounced and soon I started seeing Storoway's music wash out over the stage and onto us. (seeing music is an effect I've only had before on high dose 4-aco dmt)
Very similar effects profile to LSD but shorter. Some of the most beautiful visuals I've ever seen. Kind of soft light pastel colours especially but so bright and rich moving very gently it was spectacular. In the tent everything became a beautiful fabric tapestry even my hands were made of fabric and intricately patterened. The festival is also mostly in a forest, which to be in was just the most magical and peaceful thing The visual component reminded me a little of the visuals which I get on low-dose DPT which I also find to be very gentle and soft. Felt quite nice on the body but overall fairly neutral.
Quite a bit later we took MDMA which was extremely euphoric on the tail end of the AL-LAD but I can't say there was any huge synergy as it had mostly worn off.
Might write a full TR up if I have the time
Oh excellent I've been looking out for a report like this. I'm planning on doing something similar at festival in a few weeks. Use the AL-LAD for during the day then hit the Mandy later in the night. Hugely euphoric sounds right up my street :D
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Great! I'm looking forward to it!
I still laugh when I think of your comment made after I'd started getting a little incomprehensible after my third tab.
I still laugh when I think of your comment made after I'd started getting a little incomprehensible after my third tab.
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had 200ug of AL-LAD some days ago. it was almost indistinguishable from a normal hit of LSD (120-150ug). I had a few shakes like with PEAs but nothing worrysome, the trip itself was deep and meaningful, emotional and interesting. it didnt lack anything. lasted well over 8 hours and mixed quite wonderfully with K post-peak.
dunno why people push it with such high doses, 200 ug already felt "upper edge" to me. the visuals were going crazy.
probably trying 150ug next not to waste material on dosage pushes that do not add anything more.
dunno why people push it with such high doses, 200 ug already felt "upper edge" to me. the visuals were going crazy.
probably trying 150ug next not to waste material on dosage pushes that do not add anything more.
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So friday night I ingested a 150ug tab(ones with the chem stricture on one side and al-lad on back) around 930pm and did a small bump or two of ketamine to pass the come up time faster. By the time the k wore off(aprox. 40 mins) I could feel the al-lad working its magic, at this point it felt indistinguishable from lsd. I walked around the campground and socialized with many random weirdos.
I eventually wandered to the main stage where one of the bands I went there to see was just starting. At first I was really getting into the music and dancing around but I kept losing my balance and found myself just stumbling back and forth giggling staring at the lights that seemed to be multiplied by 10 of what im sure was actually there.
I felt very clear headed and everything was crisp, no body load, no sore muscles. I could smell several distinctly different kinds of weed being smoked so I asked my friend for a hit and it sent me into a coughing fit and tickled my nose, when I regained myself there was rainbow diffraction at all the origins of light and the leafs of the trees where looped into a pattern covering everything that wasn't bright.
I wandered back to the fire after a while and it was dying down so I grabbed a flashlight and walked into the woods and started pulling down dead branches out of pine trees and collected a shit load of wood. About 6-7 hours after dropping I felt it starting to fading away so I ate another >100ug of liquid lsd and came right back up within 30 mins.
I will note that the next day it required >450ug lsd to get back on my level, and I didnt even notice much visuals, mostly just the giggles and silly nonsense talk.
I eventually wandered to the main stage where one of the bands I went there to see was just starting. At first I was really getting into the music and dancing around but I kept losing my balance and found myself just stumbling back and forth giggling staring at the lights that seemed to be multiplied by 10 of what im sure was actually there.
I felt very clear headed and everything was crisp, no body load, no sore muscles. I could smell several distinctly different kinds of weed being smoked so I asked my friend for a hit and it sent me into a coughing fit and tickled my nose, when I regained myself there was rainbow diffraction at all the origins of light and the leafs of the trees where looped into a pattern covering everything that wasn't bright.
I wandered back to the fire after a while and it was dying down so I grabbed a flashlight and walked into the woods and started pulling down dead branches out of pine trees and collected a shit load of wood. About 6-7 hours after dropping I felt it starting to fading away so I ate another >100ug of liquid lsd and came right back up within 30 mins.
I will note that the next day it required >450ug lsd to get back on my level, and I didnt even notice much visuals, mostly just the giggles and silly nonsense talk.
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Is this typically as physically benign as acid or are people getting nauseous on the come up more similarly to 2Cs or some tryps?
Would you guys say that the total duration from consumption to no effects is around 7 hours, with sleep following soon after?
150ug a decent dose if we're at a festival and don't want to be fully tripping or should i go up to 220ish?
Tolerance would be the same as any other 5ht2a compound but not as rapid as the nbomes? So redosing shouldn't be a problem but twice in a 4 day period is unlikely.
150ug a decent dose if we're at a festival and don't want to be fully tripping or should i go up to 220ish?
Tolerance would be the same as any other 5ht2a compound but not as rapid as the nbomes? So redosing shouldn't be a problem but twice in a 4 day period is unlikely.
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Two halves, spaced an hour or so apart might be better. I got a bit freaked out clubbng/gigging, but it was very claustrophobic in there. Fest be good fun I'm sure!
Total duration is indeed about 7 or 8 hours. No lingering stim, sleep is easy & normal at t+10 hours.
Yes, some people get a dodgy tum, others a touch of nausea. I've suffered neither, & generally, I find the effects mirror most of those of LSD with less intensity, less duration & much less physical difficulty. All subjective of course, you own millage is likely to vary!
Total duration is indeed about 7 or 8 hours. No lingering stim, sleep is easy & normal at t+10 hours.
Yes, some people get a dodgy tum, others a touch of nausea. I've suffered neither, & generally, I find the effects mirror most of those of LSD with less intensity, less duration & much less physical difficulty. All subjective of course, you own millage is likely to vary!
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Can anyone give a concise guide to testing blotter with an Ehrlich test, particularly the EZ test? Mine didn't come with instructions and it looks like it's not massively obvious. I also thought that you needed to use a decent amount of the blotter to get a reaction? Thx.
Rather looking forward to trying AL-LAD after reading this thread, I have to say..
A week ago I tried AL-LAD for the first time. The last time that I took anything before that was two weeks prior, which was 210 mg MDMA and 150 ug LSD, at a concert. I'm not going to put up a list here, but suffice to say I have a lot of experience with all sorts of RC's, chemical and natural substances (amongst which well over a 100 LSD trips), just to give an indication of where I'm coming from.
I put one 150 ug tab (from the ones with the chem structure on one side and the name on the other) under my tongue for about ten minutes and then swallowed the mush, it's orally active after all. Due to the novelty of this compound I didn't have it officially tested, which is going against my usual practice, but I don't think the service that I have access to will fully recognize it yet and my supply of the material is limited, so I thought it would be a waste and accepted the fact that this would be a calculated risk.
I had an empty stomach, a few hours earlier I took 0.5 mg Pyrazolam. At T+0.75 the first signals appeared to me, as did the first yawns. The come up was extremely gradual, easy, smooth, subtle (no nausea, but then I rarely get nauseated, only with materials like AMT, 2C-E, Mescaline and its analogues). It felt as if I was taken by the hand and being led gently into the trip, with a very light sort of stonedness.
At T+1.5 / T+1.75 I got the feeling that it wouldn't go any further than it was at that moment. At the same time I also had some GI (as you did, Dr Mamba, I never have this with LSD either) and I had to, so to speak, stain the porcelain throne for a bit
Considering the effects/dosage so far it seemed to me that this compound is indeed AL-LAD, although I couldn't definitively rule out an NBOMe (although the tab was tasteless and the bodyload light or almost non-existent, without any noticable vasoconstriction). DOx was completely ruled out, because those compounds seem to have little effect on me, unfortunately, even at high doses I only feel amped up without much psychedelic effect. Later I had learned from a friend that an Ehrlich test had been performed on this substance (coming from the same supplier) and that it indicated that this would be a tryptamine or ergoline, ruling out it being a phen. Now that I know that I'm convinced it is AL-LAD (or at least an x-LAD).
There were obvious similarities to LSD, but also distinct differences. The 'tripset' of the body, the bodyload if you will, was more or less comparible and not heavy at all, thankfully. It felt somewhat 'electric', as with my experience often is with LSD, to the same degree, along with some tremors in my underarms. This almost made me think of Mescaline, but the Mesc tremors are more in my legs or throughout my whole body. The visuals and mindfucks however stayed way behind. Only ever so slight CEV's and OEV's (patterning, no warping or breathing), the mindfucks too were many factors less than with LSD. I did notice a huge distortion in the perception of time. The playful, sinister, evillish, Mr. Hyde like side which sometimes manifests itself during a good acid trip was entirely not there. Later into the trip I thought, for only a moment, that it felt a bit like a light roll, a very light one and not exactly the same, 2C-B and AMT have that a whole lot more. Maybe it was the serotonin. It was euphoric (a serotonin shiver here and there), there was much laughter at moments. Music was pleasant, as expected, but I didn't really feel like becoming one with it. I don't know if the tab is really 150 ug, but compared to LSD this was clearly weaker, so much weaker in fact, that the next time I'll be taking this, it shall be 300 ug. If it really is 150 ug per tab (and I don't really have much reason to severely doubt that, because I really do trust the supplier, which I had some really good experiences with in the past), then the potency isn't quite comparible to LSD and therefor the material is more expensive.
The experience nevertheless was very pleasant, somewhat underwhelming, but light trips can be just as valuable as strong ones IMO. Lying on my bed with music got boring real fast, so I went to my living room and put on the first disc of Planet Earth to watch, which was absolutely brilliant, especially the piranha underwater footage. I smoked quite a bit of Cannabis, an amount that would probably be problematic if I'd taken acid, I think (I've gotten very sensitive towards Cannabis over the years and had some trips going out of hand due to smoking a bit too much). There was some erotic effect between T+4 and T+6, maybe partially because of the weed. At T+5 / T+6 the trip seemed to be going downhill, but at T+8 I realised that I could still clearly feel it.
At T+9 / T+9.5 I fell asleep in my bed in somewhat of a chaotic state of mind (probably the grass, I often have this with LSD as well) and I slept like a baby (with a good strong acid trip this is unthinkable). The next day there was a beautiful afterglow, no LSD hangover at all, some good energy, not drained whatsoever. The material partially feels a whole lot cleaner than any LSD I ever took (no LSD body smells and/or hangover the next day, things felt clean during the trip as well); I wrote 'partially', only because of the GI part in the beginning.
After only one experience I find it hard to judge AL-LAD completely on its merits, I feel that I need at least one more experience and a bigger dose to properly do this. This first one could be called: A Mild Ride.
I don't think this is much of a real trip report, more an overall description after the deed and an ever so slight comparison with LSD, so I'm putting this here. HIH.
I put one 150 ug tab (from the ones with the chem structure on one side and the name on the other) under my tongue for about ten minutes and then swallowed the mush, it's orally active after all. Due to the novelty of this compound I didn't have it officially tested, which is going against my usual practice, but I don't think the service that I have access to will fully recognize it yet and my supply of the material is limited, so I thought it would be a waste and accepted the fact that this would be a calculated risk.
I had an empty stomach, a few hours earlier I took 0.5 mg Pyrazolam. At T+0.75 the first signals appeared to me, as did the first yawns. The come up was extremely gradual, easy, smooth, subtle (no nausea, but then I rarely get nauseated, only with materials like AMT, 2C-E, Mescaline and its analogues). It felt as if I was taken by the hand and being led gently into the trip, with a very light sort of stonedness.
At T+1.5 / T+1.75 I got the feeling that it wouldn't go any further than it was at that moment. At the same time I also had some GI (as you did, Dr Mamba, I never have this with LSD either) and I had to, so to speak, stain the porcelain throne for a bit
Considering the effects/dosage so far it seemed to me that this compound is indeed AL-LAD, although I couldn't definitively rule out an NBOMe (although the tab was tasteless and the bodyload light or almost non-existent, without any noticable vasoconstriction). DOx was completely ruled out, because those compounds seem to have little effect on me, unfortunately, even at high doses I only feel amped up without much psychedelic effect. Later I had learned from a friend that an Ehrlich test had been performed on this substance (coming from the same supplier) and that it indicated that this would be a tryptamine or ergoline, ruling out it being a phen. Now that I know that I'm convinced it is AL-LAD (or at least an x-LAD).
There were obvious similarities to LSD, but also distinct differences. The 'tripset' of the body, the bodyload if you will, was more or less comparible and not heavy at all, thankfully. It felt somewhat 'electric', as with my experience often is with LSD, to the same degree, along with some tremors in my underarms. This almost made me think of Mescaline, but the Mesc tremors are more in my legs or throughout my whole body. The visuals and mindfucks however stayed way behind. Only ever so slight CEV's and OEV's (patterning, no warping or breathing), the mindfucks too were many factors less than with LSD. I did notice a huge distortion in the perception of time. The playful, sinister, evillish, Mr. Hyde like side which sometimes manifests itself during a good acid trip was entirely not there. Later into the trip I thought, for only a moment, that it felt a bit like a light roll, a very light one and not exactly the same, 2C-B and AMT have that a whole lot more. Maybe it was the serotonin. It was euphoric (a serotonin shiver here and there), there was much laughter at moments. Music was pleasant, as expected, but I didn't really feel like becoming one with it. I don't know if the tab is really 150 ug, but compared to LSD this was clearly weaker, so much weaker in fact, that the next time I'll be taking this, it shall be 300 ug. If it really is 150 ug per tab (and I don't really have much reason to severely doubt that, because I really do trust the supplier, which I had some really good experiences with in the past), then the potency isn't quite comparible to LSD and therefor the material is more expensive.
The experience nevertheless was very pleasant, somewhat underwhelming, but light trips can be just as valuable as strong ones IMO. Lying on my bed with music got boring real fast, so I went to my living room and put on the first disc of Planet Earth to watch, which was absolutely brilliant, especially the piranha underwater footage. I smoked quite a bit of Cannabis, an amount that would probably be problematic if I'd taken acid, I think (I've gotten very sensitive towards Cannabis over the years and had some trips going out of hand due to smoking a bit too much). There was some erotic effect between T+4 and T+6, maybe partially because of the weed. At T+5 / T+6 the trip seemed to be going downhill, but at T+8 I realised that I could still clearly feel it.
At T+9 / T+9.5 I fell asleep in my bed in somewhat of a chaotic state of mind (probably the grass, I often have this with LSD as well) and I slept like a baby (with a good strong acid trip this is unthinkable). The next day there was a beautiful afterglow, no LSD hangover at all, some good energy, not drained whatsoever. The material partially feels a whole lot cleaner than any LSD I ever took (no LSD body smells and/or hangover the next day, things felt clean during the trip as well); I wrote 'partially', only because of the GI part in the beginning.
After only one experience I find it hard to judge AL-LAD completely on its merits, I feel that I need at least one more experience and a bigger dose to properly do this. This first one could be called: A Mild Ride.
I don't think this is much of a real trip report, more an overall description after the deed and an ever so slight comparison with LSD, so I'm putting this here. HIH.
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Can anyone give a concise guide to testing blotter with an Ehrlich test, particularly the EZ test? Mine didn't come with instructions and it looks like it's not massively obvious. I also thought that you needed to use a decent amount of the blotter to get a reaction? Thx.
Rather looking forward to trying AL-LAD after reading this thread, I have to say..
It's quite simple though the lack of instructions isn't helpful.
1) Cut off a teeny piece of blotter, you need no more than a quarter tab probably less
2) Break the reagent vial & pop the blotter into it
3) Add the little ball immediately & watch closely
4) Colour should change to pink/mauve/purple within minutes, the quicker & darker the reaction the more ingredient your blotter holds... IF you have an active lysergide blotter, of course...
If you leave the reaction to continue you will get a reddish/brown result probably from airborne contaminants or from blotter ink etc etc. If you are working alone it might be tricky, but try to photogragh the result, if not the whole process.
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