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Benzos (thienodiazepine) Etizolam Megathread V2

So I've recently acquired some etizolam powder and am eager to try it for my anxiety...but does anyone have any suggestions on how to use the powdered form?

From my searching right here and across Google it seems the best way to use etizolam powder is to dissolve it in propylene glycol. Only problem is I would like to be able to carry it around when I go out in some sort of portable format that I could take as needed while out, like I take pills. (Social anxiety being my primary problem.) Carrying around a 100mg bottle of liquid and using a syringe to take a dose while out of the house is not really practical. Any suggestions? Can I use capsules? :\
 
I found this 1cc dropper oral syringe earlier for when I make a solution that seems awsome. Would be easy to bust out a vial + that in a bathroom stall and take the proper dose needed.
 
this is shear hell today will be till Tuesday after this meeting with the coppers and a drug worker feels like some kind of trap i just cant shake that impending disaster feeling ive no access to meds or etzi doctors away and the others wont give me any this is fucked up today big time
 
Professer said:
I found this 1cc dropper oral syringe earlier for when I make a solution that seems awsome. Would be easy to bust out a vial + that in a bathroom stall and take the proper dose needed.
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I bought a syringe and am planning on liquid solution of at least some of the powder I ordered. I'm thinking of making a 2.5mg/ml solution. I have some plastic vials that I've only ever used for powder and not sure how many ml they hold, I'll have to test if they're watertight to carry around without spilling out. If it works out, I suppose that would be a doable method, though carrying around a bottle of liquid and a syringe is still not quite ideal.

If I'm out in an anxiety-provoking social situation I can easily slip a mg of clonazepam under my tongue if needed or take it with water without attracting attention.

I'm still thinking about maybe encapsulating the etizolam. I could just measure out and encapsulate 1-2mg of etizolam powder using my .001 scale, though my 00 size capsules, which hold for example 700mg of phenibut, would look pretty empty though with only 1 or 2 mg of powder in it. Not guaranteed to be completely accurate the way volumetric measuring would be, but not a big deal.

Or can I put liquid solution into a capsule? Does anyone know if eti/PG solution would dissolve a vegan, non-gelatin capsule? Maybe if I fill the capsules with baking soda and just drop a liquid eti/PG dose into that?
 
right feel like shit not the normal i feel like shit but i feel like hell i dont know if its the wd or worrying about next week but my head starting hurt to the light
 
Whyle US RC vendors ' sites look great their wares lately leave a lot be desired. The 2 RC's I bought last week (etiz and Flephedrone) were complete duds. A $280 stiff.

Deleted remainder of post written against better judgment. Best to avoid the possibility of getting a good friend in trouble.
 
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Divinus Salviarum said:
I bought a syringe and am planning on liquid solution of at least some of the powder I ordered. I'm thinking of making a 2.5mg/ml solution. I have some plastic vials that I've only ever used for powder and not sure how many ml they hold, I'll have to test if they're watertight to carry around without spilling out. If it works out, I suppose that would be a doable method, though carrying around a bottle of liquid and a syringe is still not quite ideal.

If I'm out in an anxiety-provoking social situation I can easily slip a mg of clonazepam under my tongue if needed or take it with water without attracting attention.

I'm still thinking about maybe encapsulating the etizolam. I could just measure out and encapsulate 1-2mg of etizolam powder using my .001 scale, though my 00 size capsules, which hold for example 700mg of phenibut, would look pretty empty though with only 1 or 2 mg of powder in it. Not guaranteed to be completely accurate the way volumetric measuring would be, but not a big deal.

Or can I put liquid solution into a capsule? Does anyone know if eti/PG solution would dissolve a vegan, non-gelatin capsule? Maybe if I fill the capsules with baking soda and just drop a liquid eti/PG dose into that?
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Buy an empty eye dropper vial. It's a glass bottle with the screw cap being the rubber bulb for the dropper. I have seen them in many sizes and very cheap. This way it's made for liquide super easy to carry and will be water tight.

Mixing water and powder to gel cap is a bad idea. If it doesn't wilt/put a hole in the cap who knows if any type of mold could grow or bacteria. They tend to like damp stuff.

I have seen those eye droppers online cheap. Buy a box of 5 or 10 if you really need it around as a possibility. This way you could have multiple ready to go. I suggest labeling and storing in the fridge.

If you're in the US Etizolam is legal, I'm unsure of its legality elsewhere in the world. My point being gel caps with white powder or vials of white powder. Oral syringes pre loaded are all things that could cause hang ups if you happen to run into the cops. It just looks sketchy and they would want to test it for illegal drugs. It saying a eye dropper won't but f its labeled and your straight forward, not intoxicated most cops in my experience are understanding,
 
Actually besides the powder I did buy one premixed eti/PG solution that comes in a vial with an eye dropper. I'll see how that works out, and if it works out well then perhaps I will buy some empty ones to use for my own powder/PG solution. (Buying the powder is a lot cheaper).

I wasn't going to use water since etizolam isn't water soluble, I was going to use the eti dissolved in propylene glycol. If I make a solution of 2.5mg/ml, then I would only be injecting 0.4ml of fluid into the capsule to make a 1mg capsule, and was thinking of perhaps filling the rest of the capsule up with something like baking soda, so it wouldn't exactly be filled to the brim with liquid. (Although I do have capsules that are filled with liquid that seem to hold up fine. I have an herbal passionflower supplement that consists of capsules filled with dark liquid). Btw I use vegetarian capsules, not gelatin capsules, cause gel caps tend to warp and have a high fail rate with my capsule maker. I wouldn't worry too much about mold since I would probably be using them pretty quickly. My cheap little capsule maker can only make 24 capsules at a time, taking about 10 minutes, combined with the tediousness of injecting them with eti/PG solution I'd probably be making them as needed.

I carry around capsules filled with phenibut in my bag with me everywhere I go and I've never had an issue with cops, I generally stay out of trouble and cops have never had any reason to search me or my bag. Even harmless supplements things like Taurine and NAC come in capsules filled with white powder so I don't think it would be issue.

But yeah the idea of having to go to the bathroom and use a syringe to take a drug just seemed a little too sketchy for me even though it's a legal substance being used for a medical purpose, which is why I was trying to find an alternate method to make this powder into portable doses. But if it turns out to be the only way I can reasonable use eti on the go I'll just have to deal with it.

I got kicked out of a bar once accused of using drugs and was escorted away from the bar by cops. Between benzos and 2 beers I was a bit out of it and clearly appeared intoxicated or drugged, but the cops never searched me or asked about it, maybe its white privilege at work with the NYPD... but if they did I always carry around my legally prescribed bottle of clonazepam that would 'explain' things if I seem intoxicated or drugged up.

Anyway eti after all is called a research chemical, I have a lot of powder coming so I may as well experiment with different ideas, thanks for the tips thus far.
 
slight fit earlier left me feeling rough going to see how next few hours go if i should just ride this out or hit the AnE
 
Divinus Salviarum said:
Actually besides the powder I did buy one premixed eti/PG solution that comes in a vial with an eye dropper. I'll see how that works out, and if it works out well then perhaps I will buy some empty ones to use for my own powder/PG solution. (Buying the powder is a lot cheaper).

I wasn't going to use water since etizolam isn't water soluble, I was going to use the eti dissolved in propylene glycol. If I make a solution of 2.5mg/ml, then I would only be injecting 0.4ml of fluid into the capsule to make a 1mg capsule, and was thinking of perhaps filling the rest of the capsule up with something like baking soda, so it wouldn't exactly be filled to the brim with liquid. (Although I do have capsules that are filled with liquid that seem to hold up fine. I have an herbal passionflower supplement that consists of capsules filled with dark liquid). Btw I use vegetarian capsules, not gelatin capsules, cause gel caps tend to warp and have a high fail rate with my capsule maker. I wouldn't worry too much about mold since I would probably be using them pretty quickly. My cheap little capsule maker can only make 24 capsules at a time, taking about 10 minutes, combined with the tediousness of injecting them with eti/PG solution I'd probably be making them as needed.

I carry around capsules filled with phenibut in my bag with me everywhere I go and I've never had an issue with cops, I generally stay out of trouble and cops have never had any reason to search me or my bag. Even harmless supplements things like Taurine and NAC come in capsules filled with white powder so I don't think it would be issue.

But yeah the idea of having to go to the bathroom and use a syringe to take a drug just seemed a little too sketchy for me even though it's a legal substance being used for a medical purpose, which is why I was trying to find an alternate method to make this powder into portable doses. But if it turns out to be the only way I can reasonable use eti on the go I'll just have to deal with it.

I got kicked out of a bar once accused of using drugs and was escorted away from the bar by cops. Between benzos and 2 beers I was a bit out of it and clearly appeared intoxicated or drugged, but the cops never searched me or asked about it, maybe its white privilege at work with the NYPD... but if they did I always carry around my legally prescribed bottle of clonazepam that would 'explain' things if I seem intoxicated or drugged up.

Anyway eti after all is called a research chemical, I have a lot of powder coming so I may as well experiment with different ideas, thanks for the tips thus far.
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If you can make a strong enough consintrate of PG/Eti you should try adding a drop to sugar cubes or something along those lines like acid is done. Then just pop a candy. I know gummy bears can absorb a lot of liquide but they may stay slimy.
 
Kilfer said:
The reputation of etiz for having reverse tolerance is still not conclusively proven but in any case that would not have any incidence on its addiction potential
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etiz does have a resverse tolerance to an extent. i forget the name of the metabolite(ill try to look it up and find a source to cite my info) but etizolam metabolizes in your body into this stuff which has very similar effects as etiz itself, but has a half life of like 8-12 hours vs the 3-4 hours that etizolam has. that could explain the reverse tolerance in some people

i know i have taken a lot in a night on the weekends, then monday ill take my normal dose and it hits me HARD
 
soberSally said:
etiz does have a resverse tolerance to an extent. i forget the name of the metabolite(ill try to look it up and find a source to cite my info) but etizolam metabolizes in your body into this stuff which has very similar effects as etiz itself, but has a half life of like 8-12 hours vs the 3-4 hours that etizolam has. that could explain the reverse tolerance in some people
i know i have taken a lot in a night on the weekends, then monday ill take my normal dose and it hits me HARD
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Never heard this but would be sweet if it works for me. I usually use 5-7 days straight than dont for a month give or take. I personally have never noticed a reverse. If anything just a regular to above average tollerance build.

I used to and plan to again use Kava Kava powder which is said to have a reverse tollerance. Never noticed with that either. Same type of dosage schedule. Use it till its gone than go awhile without. Even taking a month off when I get more Eti my Tolly seems to stay up. Used to use 1mg at a time with notocsble results. Think last batch I was doing 2-3 at once. Still well worth the price. I would say 1mg prob is still therooedic to me. But 2-3 for the buzz 1mg used to give me.
 
Got off this stuff by using Valium....it's been 4 days benzo free and I'm doing alright ;)
 
etnies said:
Got off this stuff by using Valium....it's been 4 days benzo free and I'm doing alright ;)
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Congratulations! How long to do you plan to taper using the Valium. My doc has me on about a 2-month taper using Klonopin, but I'm hoping to taper in about half that time (it's been 2 weeks already and I'm feeling fine/normal)
 
Been off etiz 4 days now.
With the help of my old buddy phenazepam, now just to simply taper this and I'm done with benzos :)
 
Ordered some etilaam to test &.then the.final batch from.a.now-defunct vendor. Planned on taking it easy, and.maybe use as an.alcohol taper, but as.a poly-addict I knew that wouldn't happen.

Up to 4-5 mg daily along with (un?)healthy doses of brew. Used to make me.pass out early but now it's basically a maintenance dose, tho yesterday I went drinking up in the big city on 5mg, handled myself fine.but didn't recall.most of the evening until.reading FB posts today.

Ordered a grip.of.etizest.from a sketch but legit vendor., haven't dipped into that yet but it'll.be a lot of abuse hopefully.followed by a proper taper. Never messed with diazepines prior minus a few rare.combo occasions

Would love to at least figure out how.to.reduce.alcohol intake.using Etizolam.
Doesn't do much for me without it tho. Quit smoking cannabis this year so.no.comparo.there.

Got an Rx for Trazodone these days so maybe that will help me.thru eventual.withdrawl.

Haven't done the math but I'll have new jnsurance I have no.idea how.to access in 2015 so hopefully.I.sort shiz out sooner.
 
Switching from etizolam back to xanax after being on strictly the etiz for a couple months.

There is a significant reduction in my xanax tolerance, while my etizolam tolerance had been growing. The doses should be equivalent for me but I am taking a lot less alprazolam now than I was etiz and it is also working way better for my chronic panic attacks and crippling anxiety.

I find the etizolam takes much longer to kick in (it can take an hour or a bit longer sometimes to chill me out) whereas the xanax hits hard and fast. This might be a tolerance thing though because only recently did I start noticing this.

Then once I've been on the xanax long enough, I make the switch again to discover that my etizolam tolerance has substantially dropped. Been doing this for a while.

There are also some rebound effects. For example, my muscles are not as relaxed, they are a little tense so my chronic back pain will be a little worse for a few days until I adjust to the xanax. I've also had really vivid and complex nightmares, almost like I was an observer/participant in a long, drawn out horror or suspense movie that lasted seemingly for hours. Not normal for me.

I always saw these as equivalent since they work on the same neurons apparently but considering they are different chemicals there are bound to be slight differences. Maybe it's that little sulfur atom. It's great that they don't have too much cross tolerance for me since it means I can switch between them and keep my doses low. Of course this does not eliminate the severe dependency factor but it is advantageous over sticking to just one benzo buddy.
 
I definitely feel Etizolam has a reverse tolerance, and here is my theory of why.

For those of you prescribed suboxone, you know that at doses under 1.5mg suboxone is metabolized into a full opiate agonist. At higher doses, it is a partial agonist but with extreme binding affinity. I believe the same to be true for etizolam. At doses at 1mg or under, it is metabolized into something far stronger, but at high doses you're just getting the effect of the etiz and not the metabolite.

When I take 2-5mg of etiz I tend to be stimulated, talkative, and can even go to work and function without being too far out of it, besides the fact that I'll talk anyone ear off.

When I take .5 at home, I tend to fall asleep almost instantly.

It may sound weird but i use large doses of etiz for my social anxiety, and socialization, and low doses for sleep and or relaxation.
 
anyone had real problems with their livers hurting whiles coming off these things ? i know ive not damaged it as ive been tested for that but Christ it hurts i think its the home pressed ones that do it maybe something in the mix ?

getting my first real taste of withdrawing today it like cross between food poisoning and the flu and just keeps building
 
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