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Stimulants Smoking meth inside & how big of a bowl?

My meth sure as hell doesn't smell like plastic (although it's glass, far from crank), nor would anyone assume something was burning, although that's an interesting description. Before I forget I just wanted to comment on A BEAUTIFUL BOY, I also would suggest that all of you who tweak read it, I read this book as a child and I feel that it helped me, it illustrates in great detail just exactly what happens when you give up and stop caring and let the drugs take over. This can happen so easily to anyone, it will take restraint not to use methamphetamine again once you've tried it, which is why the best thing you can do, is not do meth, not even once.

On the issue of smell, I personally feel it's too difficult to objectively attempt to discuss the odor of vaporized methamphetamine, although I have noticed that noobs who roast the shit out of their bowls, literally attempting to smoke their crystal, that produces much stronger odors in comparison to someone who knows what they're doing with the vaporization.

Methamphetamine vapor rapidly disperses into the environment, and from experience, most people will walk into a room* where crystal was just vaped, like, within minutes if not less, and 9 times out of 10, no one notices the smell.

*Room size is a factor though. I mean, if you have an extremely small room with absolutely no windows, fans, air purifiers, ventilation, etc, like if your room is closet-esque per se, and you were chain-vapin bowls to the dome in your tinyyy 10' by 10' (made up figures) bedroom, and someone walked in, they'd ask what that smell is, it should not smell "smoky" as it's vapor.

But honestly, one of the many concerning things about methamphetamine, it's the fact that it can be used so incredibly discreetly. I've used methamphetamine via multiple ROAs in crowded areas/public places, and discreetly in private property where I had to hide my use in the presence of others (friends, family, friends family ha, I draw the line at getting high in front of children. I will not get high around a kid no matter how many times their sick junkie parent says it's okay to fix up in front of the kids, as if they won't remember that for the rest of their life, or even if they did, that no one cares.

I mean, I remember vividly those days being over at my friends house as a kid when his older cousins and their sureno buddies fixed up crystal, blow, and always black tar heroin. The image is burnt into my memory, the setting and emotions. I saw people shoot heroin before I ever saw someone administer insulin for diabetes, so even today, I tend to associate needles with abuse first and then therapeutic value.
 
THC2LSD said:
I "don't" know a bunch of tweakers and junkies and used both meth and heroin, so I might know more about it(or not). Some used both. They themselves have told me the don't get physically sick without meth. It more like being really fucking depressed and tired with strong cravings than physically sick.
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wow, some lucky friends ya got -
I just went through withdrawals this past week, and let me tell you, had there been a gun available, I would have shot myself without a doubt. Severe headache, nausea, no appetite, freezing, sweating, fever, overly insanely frequent urination, extreme depression, zero energy/motivation/ability to do anything whatsoever.

How sad is this - I actually needed to get hi so I could EAT. LOLOL
 
Honestly I had so many expectations shattered by this stuff. If relatively clean crystal, it shouldn't taste or smell like much of anything unless you're a people who holds the lighter too close or fails to roll the bowl. You vaporize it and there's little, if any, smell; burn much of anything and it'll stink and taste pretty foul.

This stuff has major diuretic effects and most of the time peeing while amped will produce the "cat piss odor." I've found one good tactic for combating this effect is to aim.

A big problem is the sweating. Slender folk may avoid the vast majority of this issue, provided they avoid both anything other than light physical work and hot environs. However, most will eventually encounter this problem due to physical labor, personal mass, temperature, or chronic masturbation. When that happens, your sweat will lather you and make you smell ripe. Some will claim this too is the sickly scent of cat urine. Personally, although I acknowledge there is a detectable difference, I feel that most of those times I just smell of heavy BO. I exercise a lot, so that helps throw folk off.

A supremely important notion to understand, is that sobers who don't already know about your "extracurriculars" will overlook signs of drug use that you or I would swiftly notice. They don't look for dilated pupils, though this may give you away provided someone stares you in the eye under soft lighting. (I've found that most fairly bright lights will keep one's pupils constricted enough to avoid being a dead-giveaway) The sense of smell is a powerful, and too easily underestimated, sense. it's known to be closely associated with memory. This is why anyone who's ever even been around weed can detect it's odor with ease after even decades following an initial smelling. Fortunately (depending on your perspective), it seems quite rare for any sober to detect meth usage by smelling piss or sweat alone. As previously mentioned, quality meth produces so little odor it's rare that an experienced user can walk into a room after the pipe's up and determine solely from scent what has transpired.

Naturally, this information is entirely anecdotal and both MrSexypancake and Subsidiary Companies associated with MrSexypancake assume no responsibility for actions taken as the result of reading this post.
 
MrSexypancake said:
This stuff has major diuretic effects and most of the time peeing while amped will produce the "cat piss odor." I've found one good tactic for combating this effect is to aim.
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I think the problem with this is that when you get the meth dick effect from being so amped is that there isn't much to aim with! Directing liquid out of a shrivelled prune to fall into a certain place gets incredibly difficult, along with the impatient state of mind that just wants to zip the fuck up and go back to the PC where all dat porn is waiting!!

Is there a way to minimise the odour? Drink more water? Herbal tea? I haven't been able to work that one out yet. At least I remember to drink though!
 
Any time I've smoked jib it didn't really have much of a smell, tasted delicious, and got me sooooo high.
Quarter gram sesh's <333
 
Brandasaur said:
Hello fellow psychonauts, I was wondering, when you pick up a bag and are about to load your gak pipe, how much do you put in and why? I put a point and a half, it makes it seem to last waaay longer than it should and you get bigger clouds than a bongtoke!


Also, I never smoke insisde while people are here because im scared of them noticing. But right now im downstairs with my door locked and a towel under the door and everyones upstairs. Will they smell it or anything? How long does it take for the smoke to dissipate with a window open even though theres no draft?
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WARNING AND DISCLAIMER!!! USE ANY OF THESE TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK ESPECIALLY THE "EAR RING"!!!!!!!! NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ACCIDENTS OR WORSE!!!

These are some tricks and tactics I picked up from ALL branches of the US Armed Forces, God Bless America and our Military. If you've ever been to any kind of boot camp, before you roll out you often stay in a nice hotel as do the other recruits, ALONE and the damn room is NON-SMOKING ONLY with a fuckin' fire alarm. I had a cool ass gung ho marine ( army and marines often are together ) say to go into the bathroom and stuff the complimentary towels in the top and bottom of the door cracks and smoke in the shower or at least run it with hot / warm water as if taking one. I asked, "How will I know if I'm doing it right and safe? He said, "If you don't hear the fire alarm, congrats, you're not a dumb ass and did it right! Lol. Of course this is pertaining to cigarette smoking. Probably why these tactics work better for our game because cig smoke is much thicker and lasts longer. I remember when I was in this situation and I smoked Newport Menthols and thought , "Damn non-smoking with alarms? Ah, well I'll just make extended love to my wife ( who also was a recruit ) and skip cigs for tonight and go to sleep earlier. NOPE! They had 2 recruits per room, but opposite sex couples, even MARRIED ones couldn't share a room. Which is hella funny to me because at the time the military was so anti-gay, but I digress...

It CAN be done but you may have to be creative ( with your setup and your excuses ).
In your case consider the following :

1. Smoke, vapor, and heat all RISE be wary of a breeze from the window taking it to an open upstairs window.
2. Since you're in a basement is the staircase solid? As in if you get under it you can't see thru it.
3. How observant are the other occupants? People that never done it before can be fooled quite easily if they did smell something. In my case for example im in a room with a lockable door and my two other people here used to be heavy users years ago. To get by this, if I HAVE to take a hit or two I make sure theyve had a few cigs ( about the only time Im glad thick smoke of a cig is around it helps mask ) and use a fan leading me to ...
4. FANS : If you dont have at least a standard box fan or medium rotating, then dont do it. However you can use smaller fans just make sure they arent too small. One time I was in your exact predicament and I had two 10 inch mini box fans and i used a pretty stealthy setup ( mentioned after this. )
5. Last but not least product quality and pipe quality. This should be obvious. Quality shit wont "stink" and I agree with some of the posters that good stuff tastes like cotton candy or rock ( pun intended ) candy. Make sure the pipe is clean as possible as old stuff in there can burn. Also dont use too much heat and especially dont be a smut slut. HEAT rises as soon as it starts to smoke & swirl but before it's liquid you should already have began spinning. Remember STEALTH and not your usual smoking style is the goal. Better to have SOMETHING as opposed to hitting normally and risk being discovered!

Super Secret Stealthy Smoker Station Hideout! ( or SSSSSH, as in STFU & be quiet )
1. A room to smoke in with other people in the house. If you have something that can be SAFELY exploited to help your cover, use it. In my above example ALL my roomies have conditions that indirectly help me. The man and woman of the house are heavy cigarette smokers and they CONSTANTLY run the AC so their living room is 60 to 70 degrees tops. The man is a heavy smoker as stated but the woman is a CHAIN smoker so the room ( which btw is adjacent to where I do my sneaking ). Since I am older they don't do things like constantly ask me why the door is closed ( the few times was only because one of them wanted to tell me something ), I don't cause problems, I buy them shit when I have money and even when I don't have my own money, I go work for some JUST to at least buy food for dinner that night and cigarettes. Furthermore I'm a computer guy so I fix problems on their pc's and phones often. Lastly, when the man is at work all the wife does is sit on her phone and play games with online friends for hours which severely limits her attention span. Moving right along, sorry for the long number 1.
2. 3 Damp Towels : Not wet as to where they drip heavily but not too dry either. The thicker the better.
3. 2 fans. The bigger the better. An AC in the room helps as cooler air makes less stink as well as gets rid of vapor faster.
4. Spray bottle with water or if possible scented water.
5. Smoking items. BONUS TIP : If you yourself are a moderate to heavy smoker this is the one time smoking up your room is beneficial ( well not in a healthy way, but your doing unhealthy shit as it is ). I sometimes will ask one of the residents for a casual smoke for more cover. They usually let me have 1 or 2 because I'm usually the one that got the cigs for them in the first place and they would feel like a prick for saying no in this case ( see? use your environment as long as no harm is done ).
6. Time : You should know the habits of the household. If you feel you are constantly "bothered" repeatedly then use one of the quicker ( aka poor man's methods below ), if even those won't matter then your journey ends here I'm afraid. The reason this is important is people may be "stupid" or "naive" but they aren't complete brainless morons, especially former users.

A. Take two damp towels and put them seal the top and bottom of the door cracks. If ever questioned say its to help keep the cool air in. In the winter time though you probably shouldnt use this excuse unless your room gets hot all year. Mine actually did because I have a computer with a 600 watt power supply. The last towel should be suspended like you are trying to make it look like a flying carpet, with one of the longer sides flush with the wall. Similar to a canopy. Optional you can get a 4th damp towel and hang it up on the wall under the towel that is suspended as over time, stuff forms on the wall. A toothbrush gets it off though and you can even recycle some of your goodness this way. Towels should not be stretched tight but have some slight slack in them ( particles pass thru stretched fabric easier ).

B. Place the two fans under the towel that is suspended one on each end. Now turn them where they are facing the towel hangin on the wall but also at an angle where they are blowing against each other slightly. Fan speed is up to you. They shouldnt be high enough to where they blow the towels around too much or dry them out too quickly. Looking from the top of the fan down you should have one fan at 2 o'clock and the other at 10 o'clock. You should be able to have at least your face under the suspended towel if you get behind one of the fans. Turn the fans OFF.

C. Smoke time and how it works : Grab a chair and sit behind one of the fans but not too close IF you leave them running the whole session as the vacuum fucks with the lighter's fire ( anyone who's tried to smoke outside in even a slight breeze will tell you it's annoying as hell ). Take a hit. Standard hold time on a hit is 3 to 5 seconds but a few more wont hurt, and no it doesn't "crystalize" in your lungs if you hold it long ( i even have a game based on it ) Before exhaling, turn on BOTH fans. Get close behind one of the fans and exhale the cloud. If you set up everything properly the smoke should suck thru the back of the fan you blow behind and dissipate a lot of it. The other fan blowing slightly towards it should get some more quickly dissipated. Any leftover smoke gets blown into the towel against the wall and the suspended towel over everything gets the rest not caught. Since they are somewhat loose and damp, the weave and fibers of the towels which catch anything not dissipated by the fans better due to the moisture. You can even have a pal sit behind the other fan and do the same. This also makes it less of a chore to keep turning the fans off and on which btw is done because once again, if youve ever tried to light a bowl in any wind you hate chasing the bowl around with the tip of the flame looking like a damn moth near a porch light

D. Use the spray bottle to re-dampen the towels as needed. Just don't soak them.

GOOD LUCK STEALTH SMOKIN'.

Poor Man's version : Grab 2 chairs or a chair and a footstool, a large bucket, 1 thick and large damp towel : Sit in the chair with your feet on the stool. Your knees should come up to your chest. Place the bucket between your legs where you can look into it and see the bottom, while holding it with your knees. The higher you can get your feet, the easier it is to hold the bucket with the help of your shins as well. Cover yourself and the bucket with the towel. If you feel like you look stupid, you are doing it right. Take the pipe and the lighter and light & smoke into the bucket. You dont have to go deep ( giggity ), some even go in just a little ( giggity ). Light, spin and hit as normal now. Exhale the smoke into the bucket. It will hit the bottom and come back while dissipating and you can even re-hit the smoke. This is usually called "hot boxing". CAUTION!!! Be careful not to let the flame or tip of the flame get too close to the towel, bot only does it dry it out faster but you could set it on fire. Also watch your hair, including facial hair. It gets hotter than you think under there ( giggity ). Be sure to come out for air and drink lots of fluids especially water.

Even poorer man's version : A large fan, THiCK towel ( or a big ass shirt if you get creative ). Turn fan on high. Drape towel over it but not entirely over the back. The weight of the towel should be enough that it can hold it self onto the fan in conjunction with the back of the fan causing a vacuum but not to where the fan can blow it off ( giggity ). This prevents you from having to turn it off and on. Take a big hit and exhale behind the fan.

Even MORE poor than poorer man's version version : One of those large Hawaiian punch jugs, slightly damp paper towels. Stuff the paper towels into the jug so you cant see thru the bottom. This is just to get them in there. Fill with enough water to cover the towels. Take a big hit. Depending on your lung capacity blow smoke into the jug. Once done cover the opening of the jug with one hand. Now pick the jug up with the other and shake it. If you feel any pressure build up, release off the hole slightly ( giggity ).

HOLY SHIT! AN EVEN LESSER VERSION?! : This is where my game I mentioned above comes in. I call it "Ear Ring". Take a big hit and hold it and dont let it go until your ears ring.Then slowly let it seep out. If nothing comes out, grats! Yes vapor ( smoke ) actually dissipates inside.
 
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I wonder how much harmful stuff is absorbed when someone holds s hit in for longer versus shorter? I imagine if less vapor/smoke comes out, more (of everything) is absorbed by the body.
 
Yeah, undeniably. But there's nothing to say that you're more likely to exhale the undesirable compounds than the meth vapour. Therefore it's not logical to expel much of what you've just paid for.
 
The thought of holding in a hit until I'm blue in the fake makes me gag a little. Perhaps someday I'll try it and report back. I am particularly loath to the taste/side effects (like how it can dry out mucus membrane) of most meth I've smoked though. If I was worried about getting caught or something I'd probably be able to deal with it more easily, but from past experience I am also loath to using stims like this in situations I have to worry about getting caught - makes for a profoundly less enjoyable experience for me.
 
I've only ever held it in (only takes 5-10 seconds) until nothing comes out. Or, if I'm struggling to do that, I expel into a bag, and breathe that back in the next breath. I'm loathe to waste anything ;)
 
Functional said:
WARNING AND DISCLAIMER!!! USE ANY OF THESE TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK ESPECIALLY THE "EAR RING"!!!!!!!! NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ACCIDENTS OR WORSE!!!

HOLY SHIT! AN EVEN LESSER VERSION?! : This is where my game I mentioned above comes in. I call it "Ear Ring". Take a big hit and hold it and dont let it go until your ears ring.Then slowly let it seep out.
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Damn dude. That's a plus 20 reputation right there!

I smoke in the house all the damn time. With my parents who have a clue, but only a clue.

If you don't burn it, like pretty bad, there's no smell*, and you really only have to fear the sounds of your heat source.
Everyone knows what a lighter sounds like.




*this is subject to intense debate among the paranoid.

There is a cloud in the house, with a sort of dusty odor, that floats up and down the hallway. It isn't strong or objectionable. Your eyes don't sting when you move through it. If prefers certain spots in the house, but not the ones I frequent. Is it me? Or is this my mind creating shame-clouds, the meth magic torturing me again? I really don't know. And I've backed off a bit from smoking in the house.

I've done little experiments holding the smoke in, hoping to grow shards in my lungs, cause then I'd get my money back. Since it's vapor, you'd expect to absorb it all eventually and see nothing. But I've never had total absorption.


But the ear-ring is right on. I know I'm getting where I need to go when the sound quality suddenly changes.
 
I have a few more hits left for me and Im I'm renting a room from a young ex army grunt. My window is sealed for darkness so I just blow into a wet towel and spray febrez and light a candle.so far so good. Course he also couldn't tell I was smoking crack here but his new girlfriend would recognize that right off. I tend to rush and have been burning mine a little lately..i get so shaky and anxious and I can't see the flame.lol. I hope he still doesn't notice. So. Time for another one! Peace.
 
Update, took a few days break and at it again. Roommate one at work and 2 is sleeping in room next to me. I didn't put towels or anything out .no smell because I didn't burn anything but still febrezzed my room and the house just in case. I do have a pretty good ring in my ears but I'm not spun yet. I got a 1/4 gram and split it in half. Not big shards but small rocky ones. Good melt and I cracked them back.remelted then hit. I think I like holding it for as long as possible. Although my ear is ringing I don't really feel anything yet. Hmm. I may have to go back to I/v for the rush but if I do that I'll get twisted real quick.hmm. peace y'all.
 
The crystal I get , which is rare considering it's in NY, vaporizes when I use a lightbulb to smoke it. It recrusyallizes and I can scrape right out of the light bulb if I wanted to. I don't think it has.much of a.smell. all I know is this, I can put half a.match head in the bulb, and it will last so many huge hits
 
Ha ha ha. I never said ha ha ha.

You been to the forum I'm referencing? How long did you last?
 
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