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  • Glass (bulb/rose/GVG) vaporiser

    6 46.15%
  • Regular pipe sandwiched between herbs

    0 0%
  • "The machine"

    3 23.08%
  • Electric vaporiser

    1 7.69%
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    I have been looking around the internet and found many different methods, most of them don't seem like good methods, such as putting the DMT in between layers of some herb in a normal pipe and smoking it. What is the absolute best way to smoke it though? Crack pipe? Crack stem? Meth pipe? Opium pipe? Bong? Vaporizer? I know you can't put it to a direct flame, so I was thinking a meth pipe or opium pipe would be perfect, but for some reason no one seems to recommend or use these. I think a vape would work well too, I have a vaporizer with a special "screen" for hash so that it doesnt melt all over the place, and that seems perfect. So what should I use?
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    I have had A LOT of success when sprinkling it on top of bowls of weed and just torching the shit out of it.
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    Sherlock Glass Vapor Genie, with copper mesh, hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomcosmonaut View Post
    Crack pipe? Meth pipe?
    what's the difference? I thought that both refer to the smoking device i usually refer to as "smoke bubble", which is also the way I prefer to vaporize my tryptamines.

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    I find changa's always a lot easier to smoke than straight DMT, you can make your own, just dissolve the DMT into a solvent that evaporates at room temperature and then soak an equal weight of herbs to the weight of DMT in that solvent.
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    I did it for my first time on Monday night, had 6 hits altogether and it was the best night of my life, no contest. We used, used cigarette ash, in a small bong. Seriously, it worked beautifully

    The experience shall be repeated tomorrow. I can't fucking wait. I feel as though I've found heaven...
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    I've had a lot succes smoking it on a small glassbong, either in between layers of ash or weed.. I think the ultimate BEST way would be on a vaporizer with a correct and steady temperature..
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    I find it really easy as a non-smoker to breakthrough with a bong. Get a stainless steel flat sieve like this:



    Cut a rectangle out of it, roll it up and stuff it into the stem of the downpipe so that it sits flush with the bottom of the cone like this.

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    Sprinkle some DMT into the cone, gently heat the outside of the stem until it melts into the rolled up stainless mesh. Then put the downpipe into the bong and hit it while heating the top of the mesh with a flame. As you suck the flame into the mesh, the DMT will travel further down away from the heat and vaporise in a controlled way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantomcosmonaut View Post
    I have been looking around the internet and found many different methods, most of them don't seem like good methods, such as putting the DMT in between layers of some herb in a normal pipe and smoking it. What is the absolute best way to smoke it though? Crack pipe? Crack stem? Meth pipe? Opium pipe? Bong? Vaporizer? I know you can't put it to a direct flame, so I was thinking a meth pipe or opium pipe would be perfect, but for some reason no one seems to recommend or use these. I think a vape would work well too, I have a vaporizer with a special "screen" for hash so that it doesnt melt all over the place, and that seems perfect. So what should I use?
    http://www.vaporgenie.com/

    ^^^^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus19 View Post
    100% all the way, the machine is the best. Vastly more effecient/effective than vaporizing in a glass bowl.
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    Use the bottle method (see link), smoke 80-100mgs aprox of DMT (alittle bigger than your pinky), all in one, hold the smoke in as long as you can, then the 'switch will be thrown in your brain', 'the alarm will be tripped', 'the machinery will start' and reality will become hyper defined - you will break through and then ermmm....

    ....come back here and describe what happened, because sure as hell I can't put that into words



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4

    (keep the lid on the bottle first, fill with thick creamy smoke, remove lid, down in one)
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    That's really bad HR advising in several threads about DMT, recommending people to smoke +100mg of n,n-DMT!

    I wouldn't advise anyone to do so! The right smoking technique is crucial, but if perfected >50mg DMT should take you to a fully psychedelic place, 100 will definatly do so, but I'm quite sure it would be unmemorizable for most people. (This of course is with relatively pure DMT, if you smoke 100mg a time maybe try recrystalling?)
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    ^ Well I would, its seems the right dose around the 100mg mark (more on the over side than the under) to break through, I found

    Personally I don't think you can over do it with DMT. Once you reach a high level, its just like a switch is flipped, so doing more would not maximize the effects (the 'switch' has already been flipped), the ride has started...People under dose on DMT way too much, it's a totally different animal at break through Shulgin plus 4 ++++. Also so many people have poor technique. So my previous posts have been to guide people in the (what I found through lots of trial and error) right direction to attain a break though, I'm not breaking and BL rules am I, this is a drugs website, yes? We are all adults no?

    ''100 will definatly do so'' ~ my point exactly

    My DMT is very pure thanks - but I do need to buy a scale as I am eyeballing it and put way over 100mg I reckon, thanks for your concern


    hmmmm maybe I should have posted 80-100mgs aprox not 100+mg? (but its what I did, over 100mg)...okay, Ill go back and edit, don't want to cause harm (I doubt it will), good point, thanks
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    While Erowid states that a strong dose is 40-60mg smoked, they also state that some can get lost in the smoking device.

    I'm aware that n,n-DMT propably isn't the most harsh drug on the body, it can sure be to the mind. 80-100mg is still way too much IMO.
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    erowid says a lot of things. I personally disagree. You need enough to break through, its like a switch is thrown, so if you do too much it doesn't make it stronger, you're either here or there, there's no in between with break through's.

    people constantly have the 'dreaded under dose' and look at pretty patterns 'behind' their eyes (or on the walls) and what not, this happens too often with under dosing, due to poor product, low doses and bad smoking technique and lack of knowledge - this needs to be rectified, the walls need to be broken down. This is no soft psychedelic, people know what they are getting into. Do it right or go home.

    good luck

    I smoked (most of) a hit of 100mgs aprox of 5MEO-DMT - 200mgs weightout by a dealer then halfed (was told it was NN-DMT). Now that was too much, but only because it was a waste, you need much less to have a white-out-ego-death...but that's a different story.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rhln28YJcg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYDgmpiE-U0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0f9DQZAYIo
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    Has anyone tried one of those cheap little vaporizers you can get? Like ze ones on ebay?
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    It's possible to break through on a lot less than 40-60mg if using the Vaporgenie, 20-30mg will do it if the technique is correct. The GVG costs about $100 but saves much DMT so it might be a money-saver in the long run.

    This is supposedly foolproof (from a pro on another forum):

    "....Personally I make like this: Start the lighter farther away from the bowl. I empty all my lungs, and start inhaling very slowly as I approach the lighter, so that the tip of the blue flame is inside the bowl and the ceramic filter starts to glow red (though not too much). Then as soon as I see the first signs of any vapour (basically a second or two), I already move the lighter farther away so that the tip of the blue flame is a few (maybe 2?) centimeters above the bowl (but still directed towards the center of course). I keep pulling with my full lungs and the lighter still on till the last maybe 3-4 seconds where I turn off the lighter and just inhale whatever vapor is already inside the GVG"

    And is all inhaled in one go.
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    I've tried all of the above ways the only way IMHO is the Volcano Vaporiser, using any leaf, including dried weed or changa variety and sprinkle the fairy dust on top. Wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProphetofProfit View Post
    It's possible to break through on a lot less than 40-60mg if using the Vaporgenie, 20-30mg will do it if the technique is correct. The GVG costs about $100 but saves much DMT so it might be a money-saver in the long run.

    This is supposedly foolproof (from a pro on another forum):

    "....Personally I make like this: Start the lighter farther away from the bowl. I empty all my lungs, and start inhaling very slowly as I approach the lighter, so that the tip of the blue flame is inside the bowl and the ceramic filter starts to glow red (though not too much). Then as soon as I see the first signs of any vapour (basically a second or two), I already move the lighter farther away so that the tip of the blue flame is a few (maybe 2?) centimeters above the bowl (but still directed towards the center of course). I keep pulling with my full lungs and the lighter still on till the last maybe 3-4 seconds where I turn off the lighter and just inhale whatever vapor is already inside the GVG"

    And is all inhaled in one go.
    Thanks - I'm all up for saving product and therefore money (kind of sick of seeing people not break through and think they have that's all)
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    regarding smoking methods, I can't see how the bottle method can't work and its so easy with no faff and costs next to nothing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4

    You fill a bottle with DMT smoke until it is creamy white then inhale it all - job done
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    I always found a bulb vape, like the GVG or smoke bottle ungelsene mentioned, to be really excellent. I've used it successfully with 2C-X, DOC and a number of others.
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    "the machine - brillo pad method" w/ a water filter contraption ... like a jar... surgical tubing etc... thats what i use. I break on through all the time with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deee View Post
    regarding smoking methods, I can't see how the bottle method can't work and its so easy with no faff and costs next to nothing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4

    You fill a bottle with DMT smoke until it is creamy white then inhale it all - job done
    Are you kidding me??? It's that simple and looks like it would work perfectly!
    Too bad I already went through the trouble of getting an electric vaporizer, but I'm definitely going to try this!
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    That simple my friend.

    One bottle with wide mouth piece so the smoke will be sucked out quicker:


    (phone for scale)


    I tape foil on to the bottom just to make it smoother - though not necessary:


    Foil. Run a flame arround it first to burn off any chemicals.


    Create a 'well'. This I find to be very important, due to the fact you want a controlled burn and when DMT mealts and heats it runs about all over the place and when the bottle is full of smoke you wont be able to see shit and know exactly where the DMT is, more than than likely some will be hiding in one of the many creases in the foil. When you create a 'well' the DMT stays put, it doesnt move around, you know where it is and therefore where to direct the flame. It works a treat, very cost effective, trust me on this!

    To create a 'well', place foil over the top of the bottle top (or anything else circular eg small roll of electric tape) so it is in the center of the foil:


    Mold the foil by pressing it down into and around the bottle top that is underneath:




    I have flipped it over here so you can see the blue bottle top underneath:


    Cover with your 1-1.5 liter bottle:






    View from above looking down, you can clearly see the 'well' you have created now inside the bottle:


    Fold up the edges (not to tight, just to get a rough, LOOSE mold, we still need to add the product and if its molded too tight now, it can be cumbersome to remove and replace the bottle on and off the foil later, for now a loose fit is fine ~ though I'm being pedantic here):


    Birds eye view:


    Remove bottle top from underneath and screw back on the top of the bottle (though you could leave it in place untill you have added the product, maybe safer):





    View from underneath (it will hold it's shape, for many hits and easy to remold):


    View from the side:


    Add product (I use a straw cut with scissors at an angle for accuracy etc):






    20mg of product. You probably want twice as much as this and then some, its always better to overdose than under-dose (get that DMT switch flipped, you can't over do it, once its flipped its flipped and having overdosed won't make much difference. Equate it to kick starting a motorbike, you can never use too much force to flip it over, once the engines running its running, but you can use too little a force and be kicking away at air all day, going nowhere). Though using this method I have broke through on 20mg* (with good product):








    Fold up the edges of the foil around the bottle, mold it around so it is tight. On the youtube video 'ways I have smoked DMT' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtckVptu4I4 the guy tapes the bottle closed. Personally I find you do not need to to this, molding it is find and smoke rises so as long as you have the bottle top screwed on it will stay in the bottle. Also when its taped shut you cant reuse the same foil as you need to rip it open everytime to get fresh DMT in, with is a waste of time and effort.

    Make sure the bottle top is screwed on the top. Burn from below, fill with thick milky smoke, surprisingly it can take some time, empty your mind (though it wont matter), unscrew top, big breath - down in one, hold breath as long as you can, BOOM, switch is flipped - welcome to that idiosyncratic, HD pattern-y-jarring-madness.

    Good luck


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    *now i have my new .001 scales I can see that you don't need 80-100mgs as stated in my other posts (what can I say? I must be an lousy eyeballer), especially using good product and a good method like this. However I always say to people it is better to overdose, simply down to the fact of seeing so many people think they have broken through when they haven't. You want a Shulgin plus four, there's a big jump from plus three to plus four, which is hard to know if you have never experienced a plus four and only a plus three, people are generally awestruck by a plus three (which is understandable) and leave it at that or think they have broken through, when there is so much further one can go.
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    What about an oil rig? I always wondered if that would be an adequate method for smoking DMT.
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