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    Sry if this topic has been done b4. Do u have any experiences or know of such stories where one of your straight friend was really high, had confusing thoughts, and took your rumored
    "equal opportunity" proclivities and had a great fucking time,

    (He looks around for witnesses then says)
    This never happened, I'm not gay, You know this.

    Tell me a time a straight guy was so high, he could be into dudes maybe for a minute, and maybe you dreamed that impossibly straight dream. Luck.
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    It makes you very horny and lowers inhibitions. It wont make you gay though, it'll just make you comfortable with fucking men if you were previously in denial, and then you will wish to do so. So basically its just you coming out of the closet to yourself. Not really that big of a deal. Gay and straight is a sliding scale, not a black and white thing.
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    They got their odd rules, that makes someone gay or not. They wont get fucked and wont give head (thats if "gay shit" scares the crap out of them). Otherwise, every guy has a little gay in them. Just avoid dominating situations(where he's being dominated).

    All im saying is it sux when you're into a guy thats straight. Meth do your magic.
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    True that all sorts of sexual mischief happens while on amps. Sadly there can be a lot of emotional turmoil after sobering up.

    Respect the nature of your using friends, and focus on what's true.

    Be well.
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    related reading:

    rollin & niggaz being gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by g0to View Post
    It makes you very horny and lowers inhibitions. It wont make you gay though, it'll just make you comfortable with fucking men if you were previously in denial, and then you will wish to do so. So basically its just you coming out of the closet to yourself. Not really that big of a deal. Gay and straight is a sliding scale, not a black and white thing.
    ^This^

    I have never used crystal meth and stimulants or other drugs never made me realize that I'm bisexual but I have seen men who are bisexual or gay and in denial or closeted sort of come out or they accept this aspect of themselves while they are drunk, and they totally deny it while sober since they are in denial or closeted about their bisexuality or in some cases that they are a gay man.

    See also: http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q179564.html

    The so called "rules" you wrote about are their own personal hangups. If these men were heterosexual even if they were on meth or other drugs they wouldn't be having sex with men or seeking out male sexual partners.

    Also whatever you do, don't force them to accept themselves as being either bisexual or gay. This is something that they themselves have to do on their own and not everyone is comfortable with being out, or even wants to come out and again this is something that someone has to do on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarOceanHouse View Post
    related reading:

    rollin & niggaz being gay
    there is a tiny bit of usefull reading on the first page, and then it quickly turns to feeding a troll....im not sure if its worth readin, TBH.

    as long as im posting, i can tell you that meth makes you very horny, and it also fucks with your head. stuff that may not usually be interesting becomes interesting. and if its only two dudes, well, anything could happen. only time i tried sex with another dude, i was high as hell on coke, which, because of its stimulant properties, acts similar...hell, for all i know, that coke might have been mostly meth. wouldnt surprise me.
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    I personally have never had such thoughts under the influence of methamphetamine, however I have plenty of stories about people I know who, erm... well to quote you OP, "got a little gay for a minute".

    Methamphetamine is a purely hedonistic drug often used explicitly for the powerful sexual desires it induces. I have used it for highly promiscuous sex with lots of girlfriends, however it significantly lowers your inhibitions. You have to be extremely careful because this drug can have you doing things you never ever thought you'd do. I never was one for one-night-stands, and since my early to mid teenage years, never liked to use protection, even if that meant only having unprotected sex in a committed relationship where both parties tested clean. However, using methamphetamine made me care much less about my previous, mostly anti-one-night-stand policy, and although I then used a condom it took a lot of willpower to use the condom, but I'm glad I did.

    I've never had an STD, but I know a ton of people who used methamphetamine and inhibitions were lowered to the point where unsafe sex was performed with someone considered "high-risk" as in, possibly/probably infected with some sort of STD, and luckily enough none of my friends ever contracted HIV, but Chlamydia, HPV, herpes rarely, gonorrhea, etc did happen to a few people I knew.

    I know girls that got pregnant due to shards, and usually they became single moms since the baby's daddy was usually still using tweak full-time and were in no way fit to be fathers.

    I know this isn't really about your homosexuality question, but I just wanted to say that yeah, methamphetamine is famous, or infamous rather, for this type of thing.
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    It sounds like your hoping this situation might occur while smoking with someone? All I can say is be respectful and try not to take advantage of anyone while they're high. Make your move while theyre in the right state of mind and If it isn't meant to be don't creep.
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    You're right. this topic has been covered before. I believe the last thread (to my knowledge) was titled 'stims make you bisexual?' - and it was a few pages long, from memory
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    you're seeing things in black and white.

    Most people are bisexual. Few people are gay, some are straight.

    However, homosexual romping (this obviously includes bisexuality) has been frowned on in western culture for fucking god knows how long but before it has been just accepted. It is becoming more acceptable, so just face up to the fact you liked getting a bit of man-on-man action, could maybe do it again, and be HAPPY! (or gay if you wanna talk olde english)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD55 View Post
    All I can say is be respectful and try not to take advantage of anyone while they're high. Make your move while theyre in the right state of mind and If it isn't meant to be don't creep.
    ^Great advice, listen to this. Methamphetamine is infamous for causing regretful situations if you aren't careful.
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    basically trying to turn straight guys with drugs, while it can be done it leads to trouble and when they turn around and are all like "i dont feel gay any more" your self esteem will drop as low as a woman who just found out her ex husband was gay the whole time, it aint good. and thats if they flat out dont reject you. why set yourself up for a fall?

    also alcohol is the best drug for making a man turn gay- it makes you stupid and for some reason with me has at times completely reversed my sexuality and made me fancy women for an evening (and i'm aware of my turn on's, normally girls will make me erect in porn BUT there is deep emotional component of satifaction missing that makes the whole thing feel empty and pointless). its such a dirty drug that it bound to hit and vastly alter every neural structure at least once or twice if you do it often enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    Methamphetamine is infamous for causing regretful situations if you aren't careful.
    Thanks so much Tricomb. I learned about this the hard way. I have found that the sex effect eventually went away, the weight came back, and the rush wasn't as rushy. That being said, in the beginning I have done and said things I wish I hadn't, and I couldn't take them back. The effects of the drug wore off and the situations I fucked up did NOT wear off. That is a miserable place to be.

    I loved having orgasms when I first started using meth. I had orgasms with another straight woman also high on meth because, well, orgasms had to happen. It wasn't about our "sexuality" it was about busting a nut by any means necessary.

    It does not affect me like that anymore. I feel some arousal but I can ignore it or I can handle it in a reasonable way, whereas my first three or four times I went wild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dittmaraz View Post
    They got their odd rules, that makes someone gay or not. They wont get fucked and wont give head (thats if "gay shit" scares the crap out of them). Otherwise, every guy has a little gay in them. Just avoid dominating situations(where he's being dominated).

    All im saying is it sux when you're into a guy thats straight. Meth do your magic.
    Oh I see... dude - don't even try that one, unless you prepared to get your ass kicked.

    Although you could try it - who knows, he might not actually be straight, he might not know it yet. If you're prepared for the worst, the best might happen. It happened wit a friend of mine.

    Nothing wrong with getting someone high on drugs, then making a move on them, unless it's a dissociative, or vast amounts of alcohol/heroin - you will get your answer very quickly, no fucking about.

    As long as they're not "out of it", they are big enough and conscious enough to make their own decisions - EVEN IF it may be something that pushes you apart (thru either a green light + they're not prepared to admit things to themselves; or a red light and they're pissed off - worst case scenarios - you get your ass kicked or evven killed...but the chances are SLIM).
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    Meth has always made me hyper sexual and reckless. I cheated many times under its influence =\ I have never experienced attraction (sexual or emotional) towards another male and have never desired to receive pleasure from a male. Just my experience. I tend to notice that women seem to "experiment" more with same sex relations than men do, at least in my part of the US. Probably due to societies acceptability of the actions; 2 girls share a bed and it's fine, 2 guys and you're labeled "gay" forever it seems.
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    “Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings

    I'm amazed that not only do people sometimes have major crises of identity about having had a momentary sexual encounter, I've actually known people to have serious doubts about their identity because someone hit on them , didn't hit on them, because they got an erection or didn't,--so much stuff that I find transitory fluff. I suppose though there are more bizarre ontological crises though. Identity invested in name brand products makes even less sense to me.
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    Oh my. That is a great thread to be made. ...might cross over into P&S forum territory on this board though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugly View Post
    Thanks so much Tricomb. I learned about this the hard way. I have found that the sex effect eventually went away, the weight came back, and the rush wasn't as rushy. That being said, in the beginning I have done and said things I wish I hadn't, and I couldn't take them back. The effects of the drug wore off and the situations I fucked up did NOT wear off. That is a miserable place to be.

    I loved having orgasms when I first started using meth. I had orgasms with another straight woman also high on meth because, well, orgasms had to happen. It wasn't about our "sexuality" it was about busting a nut by any means necessary.

    It does not affect me like that anymore. I feel some arousal but I can ignore it or I can handle it in a reasonable way, whereas my first three or four times I went wild.
    Yeah Frizz, see I feel the same way, especially the part I bolded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurelGrigori View Post
    “Actually, there is no such thing as a homosexual person, any more than there is such a thing as a heterosexual person. The words are adjectives describing sexual acts, not people.” ― Gore Vidal, Sexually Speaking: Collected Sex Writings

    I'm amazed that not only do people sometimes have major crises of identity about having had a momentary sexual encounter, I've actually known people to have serious doubts about their identity because someone hit on them , didn't hit on them, because they got an erection or didn't,--so much stuff that I find transitory fluff. I suppose though there are more bizarre ontological crises though. Identity invested in name brand products makes even less sense to me.
    fucking great post...I've been considering things like this myself after having had a crisis end early on in the year which has been going the past year or so(well...longer really, but in a big way for a year) - sexuality is such a strange thing - I reckon crisis doesn't happen so much in teh east as it does in the west - here in the west everything has got a fuckin label...

    Noodle(Cheerio?! REALLY?!?! lol) - shut up dude! Just playing devil's advocate
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    Excellent post!! you are right on target. If only more people would think as openly!! Maybe many do, it could be that our social mores taught to us since birth stand in the way of our true self/being!
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    If we would admit it we are all a little gay, since the first time we jerked off. Think of who showed you how, how many times have you fantsized about him beating his meat. Society has told us since birth that homosexuality is wrong, therefore there is no way we would let any one know we have any thought about it. Meth just take the inhibitions away, in many ways we become real. I am not a heavy user, but when I do I will get with anyone if I can, male, female, tranny...I think the earlier cultures were less inhibited about sexuality and may be a lesson for us to learn. I realize most great ancient empires crumbled, but I don't believe it has any thing to do with sex, but rather political ambition. America is on its way!! It would be nice to live in a world without labels, and where people just ARE!!!
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    ^ FYI: It might be easier for people to understand your way of thinking if you quoted people, since you are responding to an old thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slm1969 View Post
    If we would admit it we are all a little gay, since the first time we jerked off. Think of who showed you how, how many times have you fantsized about him beating his meat. Society has told us since birth that homosexuality is wrong, therefore there is no way we would let any one know we have any thought about it. Meth just take the inhibitions away, in many ways we become real. I am not a heavy user, but when I do I will get with anyone if I can, male, female, tranny...I think the earlier cultures were less inhibited about sexuality and may be a lesson for us to learn. I realize most great ancient empires crumbled, but I don't believe it has any thing to do with sex, but rather political ambition. America is on its way!! It would be nice to live in a world without labels, and where people just ARE!!!
    I agree with this. I don't think anyone is 100% straight or 100% gay, but we're all somewhere on a scale between the two, and drugs just lower our inhibitions. I know when I'm high I'm more likely to get with women even though I don't particularly want to when sober, and I'm not even talking about meth since I've never tried it.
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