How many times can the same question be asked? lol
And lets clarify: if you have no opi tolerance, why in gods name are you SHOOTING dope/suboxone? Recipie for disaster amigo. In addition, you have some opi tolerance if you've been shooting subs for days. IN fact your tolerance is WAY HIGHER than if you had shot dope for the same time frame.
The dangers are in doing suboxone AFTER other opiates. If you do suboxone THEN opiates, your only problem is wasting the drugs. As the two above me said: longer you wait the stronger the high will be.
In your case (no tolerance) I'm not sure if its even advisable to go to 0 tolerance and shoot dope.
General rules of thumb though, with subjective % estimations:
-24 hours you'l feel some of the dope, but it wont be the same high (~60% )
-48 hours you'll feel a lot, (~75% )
-72 hours and it will almost be as if you had not taken sub (90-95% )
-Longer than 72 and its getting close to, if not feeling, all of the drug (~99% )
The statement is probably more accurate than the %. The % are personal to me although probably pretty close to most peoples (I'm sure most would peg their % estimates +/- %5 of mine)
I had a dosage guide that was similar to this but covered the blockade effect from various doses.
1mg and under probably won't block anything and may actually add to the high if taken before it obviously. If it does block, it would only be for 16 hours at the most.
2mg blocks for a day or so
4mg blocks for 48 hours or so
8mg blocks for 72 hours
Anything higher will
really block for 72 hours or so, like you won't feel a thing.
All of those doses are for sublingual administration, and single doses. If you take it daily for maintenance then I would add on a day to each of them.
Misunderstanding, I've only been iving small amounts of suboxone for 2 days, the last being last night. Do i need to even wait since i was doing such a small amount and have absolutely NO tolerance to suboxone or heroin? I remember when i used to do suboxone daily i did percocets and lortabs the next day and nodded out pretty hard.
You have a tolerance if you are able to IV 2-3mg of suboxone. It is a lot more potent than people give it credit for, and even a 2mg dose taken sublingually is going to block dope for a day or so. You have to consider that you are getting 100% of the drug from IVing it, whereas the sublingual BA is around 40% so even though it may not last as long, the higher amount of the drug you are getting which in turn will kinda cancel out the shorter duration since it takes longer for higher doses to be removed from your system. Also since you have used for consecutive days has built up in you due to the long half-life, which basically means that there was still suboxone left in your system when you took each shot, so it added to it.
I suggest waiting 48 hours, but I doubt you will listen to that so at least wait 24 hours. There is no point in wasting perfectly good dope because you don't want to wait for the suboxone to leave your system. If you do it too early although you might actually get a rush, you will get nothing after it other than a small buzz for a short period of time.
im not trying to mix the two, i just thought maybe shooting suboxone there would be a shorter half life, and so far i have had no problems shooting suboxone, just as easy as shooting anything else. Sorry I'm a newbie sort of to opiates. So shooting suboxone doesnt cause a shorter half life?
The half-life remains the same, but with IVing the drug your body is able to begin to eliminate it quicker since the full dose is in you at once. If you were to take it sublingually then it lasts longer because it takes several hours for your body to get the full amount of the drug in it, so it can only begin to eliminate what is in your system at the time, so some of the drug won't begin to be eliminated for several hours.
The only time that I have seen the half-life listed differently for various ROAs is with the transdermal patches, and I think the half-life is still the same, but since the drug is released over several days it isn't going to eliminated yet if it hasn't been released into the system.