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    Quote Originally Posted by lazylazyjoe View Post
    ^No kidding. I'm stubborn. I'll sit and keep poking, no matter how long or how many needles I gotta use. I never really timed, but I know Ive watched entire hour long shows and still hadn't hit.
    Hah, absolutely. I get into like a trance when I'm fixing and can't hit. People could be talking to me, yelling at me, the fucking ground could be opening up to swallow everything whole, but I tune it all out. Blood will be pouring down my arms and shit and I'll just keep sticking myself over and over until I register clean. It's sick. I remember the days when I could duck into a Starbucks bathroom in the east village, get out my gear, tie off and register immediately. In and out, wham bam thank you mam. It sure made being a junkie on the go a whole lot easier. Though I have been clean now for a while so I could probably hit one of the veins in my wrist or hand pretty quick, at least until they went back into hiding a couple weeks later. Hah.
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    I appreciate you standing up for me swain................ thanks.......
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    @@maxim you are right...but we are not here to judge. You don't know his/her whole situation.

    Also, you are going to come into contact with a lot of addicts on this board.. Just so you know.
    Miss Kirsty............you are RIGHT ON!!!!! I was cracking up reading your post because that is exactly where I have been. Especially about the congealed blood up the syringe clotting and clotting........damn that sucks. I'm so glad someone knows where I'm coming from. I'm gonna take a break.........from everything.............thank you
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    How about your neck? It should be a last resort, but clearly you are nearing that juncture
    I really advise against this. IV coke in the neck has a really high chance of causing panic attacks because it's such an instant and strong high. But that's just my 2 cents, the risk is all yours to take OP. Just say safe.
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    ^ I'm pretty sure IV coke would tend to produce anxiety no matter what vein was used...

    If someone is contemplating injecting into his/her jugular, I'd say they would have much more important things to worry about than a panic attack.
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    anybody have advise on Adderall VS. Vyvanse 60 mg. capsule. what can I expect???? I took a 60 mg. Vyvanse and have felt nothing and it's been 6 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badfish45 View Post
    I really advise against this. IV coke in the neck has a really high chance of causing panic attacks because it's such an instant and strong high. But that's just my 2 cents, the risk is all yours to take OP. Just say safe.
    Not sure why the neck would promote a panic attack any more than the crook of the elbow? The high is instant as it is.. it takes 1 second to hit you.. I get high before the plungers even totally down.

    That being said.. IV in the neck is dangerous especialyl with coke. Thr eason I say that is a few things.. if you miss a shot you can get swelling, obstruct blood flow to and from brain and even your throat passage could be obstructed. If you are shooting coke, its way easier to miss because its numbing the area..

    God forbit an abscess forms or infection spreads around up there.. who knows, what if it spreads to you rbrain. I mean I am not a doctor.. but that would be my biggest concern. That vein is vital.. really not one you want to fuck around with.
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    Here's some help original Poster, GET ON SUBOXONE ASAP before you die of a blood born infection. A lady I knew just recently died, and she too, couldn't ever find a vein so she started shooting it into her neck, and inevitably, now she's 6 feet under or was she cremated? I forget...I know how harsh I sound but with newer ways out of this horrible addiction like subs and methadone and even tramadol for God's sake, just do that before you kill yourself. Heroin is good, and I know, believe me, heroin is great, but life is better and your body is a temple, don't shit on it, help it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggi View Post
    ^ I'm pretty sure IV coke would tend to produce anxiety no matter what vein was used...

    If someone is contemplating injecting into his/her jugular, I'd say they would have much more important things to worry about than a panic attack.
    Yea, for real. You get the same high no matter where you hit, but it's just so dangerous hitting in the neck since what would be a minor complication in another area like the arm, is a major complication in the neck. Treating an abscess in the neck is not easy, and skin grafts there aren't as simple as ones on the arm. Also, I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure that if it gets really infected, they can't amputate your neck and keep you alive.
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    im sorry but being a former IV H addict, this thread makes me sad. i too have lost so many veins that if i wanted to i would have to use my hands or feet. some things i can say:

    use HIGHER guaged rigs, ie get 30 or 31 NOT 27 as you can hit smaller veins with these which reside on your extremities....not like the huge pipes that used to be on your arms.

    PLEASE stay away from the neck. it is just so fucked up. if you miss in your neck you are in for a fucking world of trouble.

    now, if you are using IV C, well it is even worse for a missed shot. however with tar and the base that needs to be hit with acid in the UK.,....it can be just as bad.

    a friend of mine went to the hospital for shooting C in his foot. NOT COOL. almost lost his damn foot over a bellringer.

    i really really would just get on suboxone or methadone if you are trying to hit your neck or have no veins left. your body is trying to tell you something.

    for C i would simply smoke it. all the heads i know that lost veins are on done and smoke crack. not saying it is a good life, but at least you dont risk amputation! i actually dont know anyone, personally, anymore as i got out of that life.....but im bringing up old experiences and observations from being a VET for 5 yrs.

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    thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swain View Post
    Not sure why the neck would promote a panic attack any more than the crook of the elbow? The high is instant as it is.. it takes 1 second to hit you.. I get high before the plungers even totally down.

    That being said.. IV in the neck is dangerous especialyl with coke. Thr eason I say that is a few things.. if you miss a shot you can get swelling, obstruct blood flow to and from brain and even your throat passage could be obstructed. If you are shooting coke, its way easier to miss because its numbing the area..

    God forbit an abscess forms or infection spreads around up there.. who knows, what if it spreads to you rbrain. I mean I am not a doctor.. but that would be my biggest concern. That vein is vital.. really not one you want to fuck around with.
    As yet, they haven't figured out a way to amputate a human head and keep the person alive.

    IV use in your jugular is reckless and stupid.
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    That's what I was trying to elaborate on ^

    IMO it's more likely to promote an overdose which on a stimulant would lead to a panic attack. And at the same time, like you said, IV use of any kind of a stimulant provides instant effects and could promote a panic attack. But administration through the neck has the potential to promote it more, no matter how much.
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    ^ The high is still the same though, but there are more dangers associated with IVing in the neck, as myself and others have pointed out.

    Effects in terms of the high: IV in neck = IV in any other vein
    Dangers and risks: IV in neck > IV in any other vein

    I think the second most dangerous place to hit would be the femoral vein due to its close proximity to the femoral artery, making it easy to accidentally hit the artery on accident, especially since they are both deep and you are pretty much going in there blind.
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    Figure out a way to get new needles, some states like new york let you buy them in the pharmacy. Also get higher gauge needles, I always used 30 and never had a problem with them clogging, but i guess some ppl might so just use the highest u can.
    As for shooting in the foot, those guys roll like nothing else, so you can't really do it with a dull needle. And im assuming you've tried taking a hot shower and doing jumping jacks or whatever, I used to tie off and then swing my arm around in circles really fast to get the veins in my arm or hand up.
    But new, higher gauge needles make all the difference in the world, it went from shooting out vein after vein to it barely leaving a mark at all.
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    Just dont Jug it! ughh Thats so nasty to watch someone shoot up in the neck. I watched a guy hit right above his ripcage on his chest.
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    I've used the internal jugular veins in my neck as a last resort a couple of times. A long time addict friend of mine, who now almost solely fixes in his neck, showed me one day when the veins on the rest of my body were particularly fussy. Despite the dangers and risk involved, the internal jugular veins—one on each side of your throat starting at your clavicle and going straight upwards under your jaw, are pretty fat and not that difficult to hit. I'd go straight in, at almost a 90 degree angle right above my clavicle, rotating from the left side to the right, and register almost immediately. For harm reduction purposes, I can't in good conscious recommend this spot..but it can be used fairly easily as a last resort.. but you need to take extra care.

    Here is a diagram to showcase the two internal jugular veins I spoke about.

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    Man, your internal jugulars.. They run parallel to your carotid artery. You really don't want to hit your carotid by mistake, you can give yourself a stroke (which could be fatal) if it goes into arteriospasm, which arteries tend to do. It's the artery that supplies a large proportion of your brain. Shooting there could cause a severe haemorrhage as well. If you miss and get an abscess that could be fatal too, an infection in your neck could erode into your carotid or jugular causing a massive haemorrhage, damage nerves and muscles and potentially spread to your head and brain. There are too many important structures in the neck to be going anywhere with a needle, even in a hospital setting they use ultrasound guidance these days.. The external jugular is more superficial and further away from the carotid but it's all far too risky. If you reach this stage you really need to stop shooting.
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    out of veins!!!! SUCKS but my suggestion to anyone else is to use your thighs!!! ive only been doing this for 5 months but appearantly i suck at it cus ive seen posts from others who done it 5 and still have a spot i poke myself (up to 76 x last pm) cont. and then the syringe gets full of blood and i can barely see the register - i really wanna find the basalic or near underarm one cus im 2 chicken shit to go to neck or groin but with my last 2 shots of meth left i might have to - if anyone can provide detailed inst on the basalic or anywhere upperarm id be so grateful! Thanks!
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    Coacine ruined mine. Feet -> gone ->arms / upper gone -> legs all gone except if you get a long needle and jab all of it in at 90 degrees angle -> hands, soso -> sucks, tried shooting up probably 40 times today then gave up. My blood sucks and my vein sucks. My veins are the most fragile crap ever, my girlfriend had better veins.

    Now I shoot up in my stomach sometimes, need to get the needle in quite far not too sure how good that is, but it works if you are lucky (extremely hard to hit)

    My stupid blood keeps clogging all needles, today it clogged 23g that I used in desperation. Couldn't even fucking push the plunger down without the syringe detaching from the needle pushing it inward while spilling my drugs.

    I have to give up soon, not doing neck and definitely not my dick. I may be reckless, but some lines even I will not cross.

    Have shot up addicts in neck several times, people usually ask me because I'm quite good at it. Except when I am high, especially on stims, that's what's ruined it for me. And no supply of new rigs very often, reused needles till they would no longer pierce the skin, sometimes then used brute force. Call me an idiot but I would not have done this had I been able to buy them at pharmacies, or if there were a needle exchange.

    I miss my veins. Taking drugs just ain't the same when IV won't work. Though this compelled me to get off the drugs (lies, stop being addicted more correct), so I guess that's something positive. I don't enjoy snorting / eating opiates and stims, opiates can be ok but stims suck if I don't IV, I just want the rush, don't care for the high afterward.

    I can enjoy the occasional shot these days, but that's all my veins can handle. Unfortunately if I am high on stims, I will get some kind of psychosis and keep trying even though it is impossible, this sucks when there is no one around to slap some sence into me. It's the definition of frustration when you can't register after so many tries.

    My veins are about as thin as a thread, your regular USB contact is thicker. Well at least I got some motivation to hit the gym.

    Track marks will soon look more like som kind of tribal pattern than scars tbh. Used to IV like 20 times a day some years ago.

    PLEASE DO NOT USE THE NECK, IF YOU MISS YOU MIGHT GET SWELLING AND DIE OF ASPHYXIATION -> read my posts and see how dumb I am, if you do this you are reaching a new level of stupid in my book
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    Ever consider plugging? With most substances, the bioavailability is still high and the stuff gets absorbed into the bloodstream quickly. It should satisfy you enough, and is likely healthier for you.

    You might even find pleasure in the rituals of preparing a shot (needless syringe ofcourse) to administer up your ass. I came to enjoy preparing it myself, never IV'd though. Sticking something up your ass might seem unappealing, but it's really not bad at all and has plenty of benefits for doing so.
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    No offense but IMO if you ran out of veins, that's a pretty good sign that you need to stop..at least stop using the needle. Come on, now..
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    These are the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professer View Post
    Ever consider plugging? With most substances, the bioavailability is still high and the stuff gets absorbed into the bloodstream quickly. It should satisfy you enough, and is likely healthier for you.

    You might even find pleasure in the rituals of preparing a shot (needless syringe ofcourse) to administer up your ass. I came to enjoy preparing it myself, never IV'd though. Sticking something up your ass might seem unappealing, but it's really not bad at all and has plenty of benefits for doing so.
    I have and I don't care for it. I'm not after saving money, which is the only thing this will do compared to other ROAs. Once IV, always IV. There is no turning back. Drugs like stimulants are only worth the rush, otherwise I'd rather not take them at all. Doing heroin without shooting it would feel boring.

    I do drugs mostly for the rush only. So for me IV is the only way (except with some drugs)

    Shouldn't it be possible to use an ultrasound machine to locate otherwise impossible/hard to hit veins as some kind of desperate last resort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toz View Post

    Shouldn't it be possible to use an ultrasound machine to locate otherwise impossible/hard to hit veins as some kind of desperate last resort?
    They make vein finders that are used by EMT's, nurses, etc. Some of them are really expensive (the really good ones) but others, like The Veinlite EMS, is not too bad and I've personally tried it.
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    I wouldn't recommend this to hardly anybody, but in your case (getting ready to hit the jug and all), i would suggest you start cooking your stuff and smoking it. At least long enough to give some veins a break. Then you will most definitely get the rush you crave.
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