Opioids Your Personal Opiate Withdrawal Arsenal

[the last dose]

I agree completely about the hash being a necessity. More and more and more. I've vaped through a quarter of oil in the past couple days. Just gives you something to do when you're sick. Helps with the cravings and nausea as well. It's unbearable for me though, at some point I always cave. All the klonopin in the world can't make it go away. It's intractable. Wish I never ever started this bullshit. I'm fighting for my life at the moment.

Hang in there SS i'll be fighting soon with you im getting down to the bottom of my taper!

 

[SS373dOH]

I agree completely about the hash being a necessity. More and more and more. I've vaped through a quarter of oil in the past couple days. Just gives you something to do when you're sick. Helps with the cravings and nausea as well. It's unbearable for me though, at some point I always cave. All the klonopin in the world can't make it go away. It's intractable. Wish I never ever started this bullshit. I'm fighting for my life at the moment.

May I suggest you post in the 'sober living' and/or 'the dark side' forums. They're geared towards getting clean and a lot of members there have been through what you're dealing with. They should be able to give you sound advice and at the very least, a few words of wisdom and encouragement.

 

[no_id]

I detoxed 5 time, on my 5th currently, and I hope it's the last one.

- weed (every.fucking.time : godsent for WD especially moderate - a bit over moderate) for the first 2 days and after day 5 or 6

- ketamine, RC dissociative or sometime DXM (almost every time) for day 2-5. Reason : obvious. Not having disso is a fail in the preparation of my WD more than a decision of not taking them in general. Ketamine is the best but the duration is sadly a bit short. Don't abuse, one time in sub WD I used too much O-PCE (very strong disso) and ended almost more fucked up for 3 day. DXM is kinda special and perhaps more toxic than other, you don't want to abuse it for 3 days straight.

- benzo, alimemazine (often, when I can get my hand on them) for day 1->2 then after 6. Imo benzo (or alimemazine) are far more usefull when used after day 6 or 7, when annoying sleepless night begin while you are not that fucked up by WD. From the end of day 2 to day 5, it's generally impossible to sleep anyway, benzo or not. And I don't have generally sufficient stockpile to induce blackout. I don't get much anxiety while withdrawaling, this is perhaps another reason I don't take them at day 3->6. Taking benzo at day 1 or 2 help getting max sleep before the storm, and help the "I will take whatever at hand" feeling at the beginning. Use 1 week straight MAXIMUM, you don't want to be hooked on them.

- alcohol (often) at day 3, 4 or 5, after ketamine. Help time going a bit faster. I experience almost no hangover from alcohol aside from blackout dose so it's kinda not advisable for everyone.

- speed, stim (rare) : not very good idea aside if WD are minor - really moderate and you need to maintain social stuff (work...)

- Tram or sub (rare as I want to cut all opiates and not increase the duration of WD). Tram 100 LP is a nice way to make yourself somewhat okay while withdrawaling from stronger opiates. Sub would perhaps work for a light habbit (taking for example 2mg the first day then 1 the second will perhaps limit the withdrawal experience). I'm not too much experienced about limiting withdrawal with this kind of strategy so I can only say avoid them if possible. Same with immodium, I avoid them, aside if the shit or nausea are too much to endure. I hear often about kratom being a godsend for WD but don't forget it act on opioid receptor too.

- coke : never tried while WD but I heard it get rid of some physical symptoms




I'm currently detoxing from a light codeine habbit (300mg each two or three days with some binge), I'm at day 14 and relapsed yesterday (I do not plan to resume use, I will not buy more codeine today, tomorrow or whatever). Do you think I will experience a strong setback ? At day 13, my symptoms was depressed feeling, not feeling really well in my body, a bit hard to sleep at night. Today I'm okay physically, only a bit depressed, I still feel the improvement of my condition given by my 300mg dose from yesterday, but I fear going back to day 3 tomorrow or shit like that.

 

[mike.vick]

Not to mention taking all those drugs at once over days has got to be at least as unhealthy as just taking 100mg of loperamide and completely ending the withdrawal.

Lope will FUCK UP your shitbox: google image "megacolon". So have laxitave + stool softeners. ALSO LOPE WILL FUCK YOUR HEART UP, I have heard.

 

[keeping]

these sub wd's are kicking my ass, so i've gone and ordered a bunchof xanax to help
i will get thru this

 

[mike.vick]

these sub wd's are kicking my ass, so i've gone and ordered a bunchof xanax to help
i will get thru this

There you go, just don't get hooked on xanz. U can take super low dose of sub like .1-.2mg

 

[kleinerkiffer]

There you go, just don't get hooked on xanz. U can take super low dose of sub like .1-.2mg

This
and don't forget, even though buprenorphine is only a partial agonist respiratory depression can still happen

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

Morphine XR 30mg caps (shootable easily after filtering, very little filler, zomorph), and zomorph 10s also, oxy 10mg IR caps.
Nitrazepam (5mil moggies)
Clonidine 25ug tabs
300 and 100mg gabapentin
Memantine
4mg tizanidine tabs
DXM
cimetidine to assist in keeping the morphine/oxy circulating in my system longer by blockade of various hepatic cytochrome P450 pathway enzymes,
Pramipexole, a dopamine agonist
Dipropionylmorphine (long acting H analog, one large dose a day or two small-med doses as per personal tolerance level will hold ya', its like the methaone of morphinan opioids, excellent for tapering, very long duration of activity and kicks the fuck ass with one HELL of a rush.

Sometimes dibenzoylmorphine if I CBF.

Codeine/DHC as CWEs in an emergency.

Xylometazoline nasal spray to prevent nasal congestion from the clonidine/tizanidine.

And cyclizine.

Been wanting to add ULD naltrexone.

 

[vortech]

That one list of like 10 drugs had me ROFLing , the fear and loathing reference was the cherry on top. In in a similar situation right now, facing 3 days until my suboxone refill and looking at the arsenal of available combinations. Im currently riding out a 3 day extravaganza of dissociatives while also at this precipice. I have plenty of 3-meo-pcp, I will take at least 10mg of that the next three days, I have a load of Loperamide, some vodka, some thenodiazapines, and $60 to possibly buy a bundle of heroin with. I think I will be fine but it will be an interesting few days!

 

[vortech]

Also have pregabalin, but I'm prescribed it and take it regularly anyway, so I don't think it will be much of a factor other than maybe taking each dose a little earlier than usual, for the next few days,

 

[the last dose]

Morphine XR 30mg caps (shootable easily after filtering, very little filler, zomorph), and zomorph 10s also, oxy 10mg IR caps.
Nitrazepam (5mil moggies)
Clonidine 25ug tabs
300 and 100mg gabapentin
Memantine
4mg tizanidine tabs
DXM
cimetidine to assist in keeping the morphine/oxy circulating in my system longer by blockade of various hepatic cytochrome P450 pathway enzymes,
Pramipexole, a dopamine agonist
Dipropionylmorphine (long acting H analog, one large dose a day or two small-med doses as per personal tolerance level will hold ya', its like the methaone of morphinan opioids, excellent for tapering, very long duration of activity and kicks the fuck ass with one HELL of a rush.

Sometimes dibenzoylmorphine if I CBF.

Codeine/DHC as CWEs in an emergency.

Xylometazoline nasal spray to prevent nasal congestion from the clonidine/tizanidine.

And cyclizine.

Been wanting to add ULD naltrexone.

LC im ready to swim across the pond to hang out with you and try your method sounds almost painless and euphoric

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

Also currently several grams of crystal-clear ice D-methamphetamine in huge fuckoff great glass-like clearest of clear shards.


Came from a Birch-Benkeser reduction of pseudo, and OMFG it is SOOOO good. 100% un-cut, there is nothing in it but D-methamphetamine, that I can personally vouch for with absolute certainty, I actually had the privilege of observing it being synthesized from pseudo, to my meth pipe. I Tried some and fuck ME it is soooooo potent, one tiny little crystal shard in my pipe whacked me senseless.

 

[Ne0]

Im with ya 100% about getting stong euphoria from porn and good music and trust me your not the only one that uses speed to withdrawl on ops ive read it 20 times atleast. I also dont get alcohol hangovers, maybe 20 years ago i would be right with ya with speed for ops when i use to put it in a rolling paper and swallow it rocket fuel in my day would fuck your nose up!!!! I think mainly if you are a person that has developed any anxiety attacks shit like i have the last ten years speed dont work just bugggs the shit outa ya i do miss them days holy shit!!!! i have a pic my wife took of me after spending a weekend in our pop up camper back in the early 80s we were up all night on rocket fuel speed in the morning she picked up the camera to take a pic of me buggin so i picked up a butter knife to threaten her to put camera down lol this is great nobody will recognize me now ha ha ha
heres pic

Well I get anxious on speed if I'm around lots of people whom I don't know, if I'm alone or with my GF at home there usually isn't any problems, but sometimes I might start to get paranoid about cops. I used benzos and GHB to take the cop paranoid away. You have to keep limit on speed use, you have to sleep every night and not to do over 5 days straight, keep break days and use lyrica then. Im sure with meth its much harder and I wouldn't try it with meth, too addictive. For me speed and GHB was god drugs for opiate WD, I wouldnt stop using opiates if I didnt have them.

 

[the last dose]

Well I get anxious on speed if I'm around lots of people whom I don't know, if I'm alone or with my GF at home there usually isn't any problems, but sometimes I might start to get paranoid about cops. I used benzos and GHB to take the cop paranoid away. You have to keep limit on speed use, you have to sleep every night and not to do over 5 days straight, keep break days and use lyrica then. Im sure with meth its much harder and I wouldn't try it with meth, too addictive. For me speed and GHB was god drugs for opiate WD, I wouldnt stop using opiates if I didnt have them.

Neo my 25 year old daughter use to take some form of addies 50mg time released for add but she stoped taking em and had lots leftover so i read couple posts about speed for withdrawl. So couple weeks ago when i was really draggin with taper i tried one 12 hours of hell anxiety crazy heart beats etc finally beat it down with xan never again. If you get anxiety then speed aint for ya maybe in my younger days i would be using it for sure to help me thru this hell.

 

[Ne0]

Neo my 25 year old daughter use to take some form of addies 50mg time released for add but she stoped taking em and had lots leftover so i read couple posts about speed for withdrawl. So couple weeks ago when i was really draggin with taper i tried one 12 hours of hell anxiety crazy heart beats etc finally beat it down with xan never again. If you get anxiety then speed aint for ya maybe in my younger days i would be using it for sure to help me thru this hell.

Im 30 yo, I think one think that Ive never doen speed too much, Ive never been "addicted", longest bing was 1 week and after that 6month break. I think it all comes down have you ever been addicted to it or not? Back int the days I got pychosis from speed, but I had 2 years break from stims, and after that using speed is was very eupohric an positive, yes t here were anxioety and aparanoid (about cops) but I used xanax for that, Ive never been addicted to xanax, sp I quited it with speed after WDs were gone.

yes I know its depents on person, for some people speed is not good for WDs maybe it makes them even worse, but for me they were great, I didnt get addicted to them, I quited them after Wds were over. I noticed that the last time with speed were very euphoric, but I really dont have any urge to use speed that much, because for me speed has always been sex drug, when I use speed I look porn or have sex nothing else, its never been functional drug like opioids for me.¨

Im person who has lots of axniety, but with speed the anxiety is different, Im usually anxious about other people, with speed I get paranoid that cops come to arrest me because I have 5g speed, thats joke. But I then thought that fuck it if cops are coming what can I do about it? Nothing, os fuck it. After that I didnt get any anxiety after all. If I feel something that might happen, then let it happen what can I do? Speed is very set and setting drug, many people dont know that. It makes you paranoid because too much dopamine in brain makes you psychotic, but its all about youre own thinking. FOr me I listened music, watched tons of porn and had monologs about many different topic in internet. Speed is very ahrd drug, it might make yo uextremly paranoid and axnious, but its all about set and settings.

Lets say for me speed was mostly very euphoric that got rid of every aspect of WD, not sweeting, but mental and other not so good physical feelings. Yes its not for everyone, but whome it is its great, no Wds at all. I dont get hungovers from speed, so I never got WDs worse after speed, next day I start over. Then I had break from it then I used GHB or phenibut which took every bad side of it away.

 

[Sar8485]

Does DL-Phenylalanine help with opiate withdrawl? I'm trying to taper off Suboxone and I'm just wondering if anyone knows if taking this supplement helps with the process

 

[WillPower23]

A few years ago I met the girl of my dreams and we very soon had a baby. Ever since our son was born my partner has made me out to be the enemy and was totally convinced I wanted to run away with our child. Nothing was further from the truth I wanted my family more than anything and saw me and my ex as life partners.From internet research these are typical symptoms of pnd, I wish doctors and midwives advised expectant mothers to possibly expect these feeling and maybe then couples with new babies may stand more of a chance of staying together. Anyway she dumped me in August 2016 and has stopped me seeing my son, the last time I saw him was last April. I've always dabbled with opiates, street heroin, pills etc. My break up hit me and is still hitting me hard and I'm in extreme emotional pain and for the first time I've heavily leant on Heroin as an emotional crutch and I admit it has a hold on me properly. I didn't care it took the pain away and that was all that mattered, short term relief from my situation in the biggest stupour I could achieve. Since the break up my heroin use has increased from half a gram to an eighth of an ounce a day. I can't remember the last time I woke up and didn't smoke H straight away. It's taking it's toll on my chest, I struggle to smoke the first bag of the day, as soon as the smoke hits my lungs I get an uncontrollable tickle cough. Training myself to hold back coughs to keep the smoke in can't be healthy. I have to smoke quarter of a line at a time alternated with coughing up clear, sticky, mucous from deep in my lungs. Also lately going for a shit has become such a traumatic experience that I dread going every morning. Rock hard rabbit droppings welded together that are so dense they won't give and have to be forced past my poor sphincter often causing excruciating pain and bleeding. I have recently improved matters with prune juice and laxatives taken before bed. Anyway from being in a position to smoke 21 grams of st heroin every 7 days that source is no more and I am suddenly forced to get by on st gear 5-8 10 bags a day. I'm sick of it all now it's a ball and chain I don't need. I want to do a diy detox and the options I have are.... I have 16 Lyrica 300mg and have been reading online a rattle on these is a breeze 300-600mg a day for a week.I've tried 300mg before on day one and two and was to wrecked to notice withdrawl, my main worry is how many days on the trot will lyrica effectively mask withdrawl before I develop tolerance to them? I also have 120 30 mg dhc I could try 15 twice a day for day 1 then 14 twice a day on day 2 and so on. In both cases I would be using temazepam and diazepam at night to aid sleep of hopefully mogodon and zanax if I can get some. Does anyone think this is a plan or can anyone offer alternative advice? I just want to be comfortable as possible...I'm also hearing heavy doses of cbd oil can help? Thanks for you time and I look forward to your replies.. Peace out

 

[k_storm_everhart93]

Uh I have a question, I was arrested once and the detective that talked with me told me to never take methadone and Xanax together because supposedly it creates a poison in your system once ingested together that once you take it there's no stopping it and that it would kill you, now I had a cousin die and had taken both drugs the night of his death but I'm just wondering is what the detective told me true or was he just trying to scare me away from taking drugs..?

 

[losangeles1993]

im currently coming off of a 1 Gram of pure Black Heroin Tar and the sweats were soo bad and im on day 4 clean today...i think this times it for me ...im done!! i was 22 and living on Skid Row in DT Los Angeles ...that place is no where anyone should be...theres drugs everywhere

 

[losangeles1993]

EVERYONE I KNOW WHO TAKES METHADONE TAKES BENZOS...they love xanax and methadone...its a better high than heroin