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    So I went to the pain clinic for my refills yesterday and the trip is an hour there, and back. They gave me Opana ER 40's and Dilaudid 8 for break-through. I went to my pharmacy and they said that there was no Opana ER anywhere right now because it is being reformulated to be non-abusable like they did with the Oxycontin. The new Opana ER will not be crushable and will be like glue if you try to crush it. I take my meds as prescribed but I was mad when I found out I had to drive all the damned way back to the clinic to return the script for Opana and get something else in its place. I have been told that the new Opana ER should be hitting shelves by the end of March. Just wondered if anyone else is having a hard time getting Opana right now or if it's only Florida where they have taken it off the shelves.
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    If I could still use it this would make me very sad. Still, my heart goes out to you...
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    this is old news, but tragic nonetheless.
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    I'm in MD and I checked with my area pharmacy and she has enough 30mg to fill my next script although we're both aware of the switch coming. She says he computer is telling her she can order the new 40mg's right now, but I'm not totally sure she'd get the order filled or not. She said she'd order 120 for me to see what happens. So, stay tuned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    this is old news, but tragic nonetheless.
    If it is old news I wish my clinic had known before prescribing it to me yesterday. With the amount of pain I was in and being raped by gas prices in this country right now I really didn't need two trips to Tampa in one day. So until the new Opana comes out I am on MSContin 60's. They are okay. I was pretty nauseated from them today though. I had to leave the grocery store right in the middle of shopping cuz I thought I was going to puke. That sucked!

    Quote Originally Posted by BeachBum4u View Post
    I'm in MD and I checked with my area pharmacy and she has enough 30mg to fill my next script although we're both aware of the switch coming. She says he computer is telling her she can order the new 40mg's right now, but I'm not totally sure she'd get the order filled or not. She said she'd order 120 for me to see what happens. So, stay tuned.
    Thanks so much. Well, if I don't like this MSContin I will for sure switch to the new Opana next month.
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    Feel sorry for all the Opana users out there, especially the ones that really need them. The people that snort them are gonna go through some serious withdrawals. I personally never tried them so im not missing out luckily.
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    I hate to say it but the addict in me has to: Just like with the old school OCs, I'm happy I got to have my fun with these before they went away forever.

    I know a few people locally that were switched to Opana ER after they changed the OCs because they were not as effective as the old ones. Really feel sorry for those in pain that have to put up with this bullshit after going through different meds for years to find something that works for them just to have it pulled off the market like this. I know those people blame people like me who were just having fun, but really, its the pharma industry that causes these problems.

    Why can't they just admit that yes these things are addictive and stop toying with the formulation to make then "abuse proof". All it does it hurt people actually in pain. People that want to get high will find a way, or just start going to their local friendly H dealer.

    Very sorry to hear about this Taylor, I've read other posts from you so I know you're hurting.
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    Hey, at least there's still (in terms of abuse) Roxis and Opana IR. (and quite a few other significant ones, dilaudid etc.)

    The terrible thing is, people who abuse these meds will always find a way to do so, but it's the chronic pain patients who suffer. As a chronic pain patient I had to switch off of OC when they changed it to OP cuz the terrible stomach pain. Now Opana is off the table, as I'm guessing it will cause similar problems in my stomach like the OP's.
    I've had to switch to much less desirable meds that aren't and probably will not ever be as effective as the old school OC and Opana. =\
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    Just go for the Opana IR's.

    If you could get Opana ER 40mg's what's going to stop you from getting the IR tablets? That's my question.
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    It blows though, for pain, the constant ups and downs of IR meds. (IME) Haven't had too much experience with the pana IRs but if they're like every other BT med...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    It blows though, for pain, the constant ups and downs of IR meds. (IME) Haven't had too much experience with the pana IRs but if they're like every other BT med...
    IR meds are the best!

    If you want good long lasting pain relief, look into a fentanyl patch, or methadone or LAAM.
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    I've tried the first two with moderate success. I'm lucky enough not to always need around the clock relief, but I daresay it can be much more convenient using ER meds, just for the stability of them.

    I do like IR meds don't get me wrong, give me the dilaudid any day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    I've tried the first two with moderate success. I'm lucky enough not to always need around the clock relief, but I daresay it can be much more convenient using ER meds, just for the stability of them.

    I do like IR meds don't get me wrong, give me the dilaudid any day.
    I feel you.

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    oh sketch, I don't want my QT messed with. Do other opiates mess with QT? I remember methadone did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain.Heroin View Post
    Just go for the Opana IR's.

    If you could get Opana ER 40mg's what's going to stop you from getting the IR tablets? That's my question.
    The ERs were great for everyone I know with chronic pain. Usually people on Opana ER have something like Roxicodone for break through pain. My friend couldn't tolerate the new OPs, and the fent patchs didn't work out for him either, and countless other stuff. The only thing he got mostly constant relief from pain with was the old school OCs, with Opana ER ranking a very close second place.

    I can personally stomach the new OC OPs and they're great in the respect that I can take one and my pain would be dulled all day, but they aren't as effective as the old ones. I won't be taking another OP ever again though, because I've read about some of the bad stuff put into them. I think the fact that the price of these things on the street has dropped so much even with tons of methods for breaking the new time release goes to show just how un-popular they are now. I suppose that was the point...but is putting so many people that really need them for pain through this whole process of finding something else that's as effective worth it? I don't think it is...

    It just pisses me off that we know this entire class of drugs is highly addictive and should only be used when absolutely needed and the FDA puts these people in unneeded pain just because we're fighting a war against something we can't defeat. It all comes from the poppy, I don't see why we have to add so much unneeded crap that's probably worse for us than opium itself just to prevent some junkies from having a good time.

    We all also know there are a ton of stupid kids out there that will go: "Oh, well since I can't break the time release on this 80mg OP I'll just take <x> of them and get really high for 24 hours". Changing the formulations isn't going to solve the ever growing problem of pain pill addiction in the USA.

    I really feel for the people that have been having too good of a time for too long with these as well. I had a few encounters with it, and one really long day where I really abused it, and I'm here to tell you coming off of Opana isn't fun at all. I can't even imagine what coming off a stable habit of Opana ER would feel like but I'm sure its really close to hell on Earth.

    Oh well....next couple of months should be fun. I can't wait to see the last bit of this stuff dry up on the streets, people are going to jack the prices up ten fold just like when the old school OCs dried up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    oh sketch, I don't want my QT messed with. Do other opiates mess with QT? I remember methadone did.
    Other than methadone and LAAM? I wouldn't know man. Good question. OD mods: get your google.com out and type away!



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    The ERs were great for everyone I know with chronic pain. Usually people on Opana ER have something like Roxicodone for break through pain. My friend couldn't tolerate the new OPs, and the fent patchs didn't work out for him either, and countless other stuff. The only thing he got mostly constant relief from pain with was the old school OCs, with Opana ER ranking a very close second place.

    I can personally stomach the new OC OPs and they're great in the respect that I can take one and my pain would be dulled all day, but they aren't as effective as the old ones. I won't be taking another OP ever again though, because I've read about some of the bad stuff put into them. I think the fact that the price of these things on the street has dropped so much even with tons of methods for breaking the new time release goes to show just how un-popular they are now. I suppose that was the point...but is putting so many people that really need them for pain through this whole process of finding something else that's as effective worth it? I don't think it is...

    It just pisses me off that we know this entire class of drugs is highly addictive and should only be used when absolutely needed and the FDA puts these people in unneeded pain just because we're fighting a war against something we can't defeat. It all comes from the poppy, I don't see why we have to add so much unneeded crap that's probably worse for us than opium itself just to prevent some junkies from having a good time.

    We all also know there are a ton of stupid kids out there that will go: "Oh, well since I can't break the time release on this 80mg OP I'll just take <x> of them and get really high for 24 hours". Changing the formulations isn't going to solve the ever growing problem of pain pill addiction in the USA.

    I really feel for the people that have been having too good of a time for too long with these as well. I had a few encounters with it, and one really long day where I really abused it, and I'm here to tell you coming off of Opana isn't fun at all. I can't even imagine what coming off a stable habit of Opana ER would feel like but I'm sure its really close to hell on Earth.

    Oh well....next couple of months should be fun. I can't wait to see the last bit of this stuff dry up on the streets, people are going to jack the prices up ten fold just like when the old school OCs dried up.
    Don't worry pain patients, now that the Captain has moved from the far east to the far west, there should be enough powder heroin for everyone. There is no powder heroin in Los Angeles county from what I can tell. I hear whomever is bringing in the tar might be bringing in some powder, but until I see it, I won't believe it. And I don't do heroin anymore anyways.

    BTW - amazing screen name man. mp3 player (my p2) and head phones is a MUST HAVE while tripping on LSD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain.Heroin View Post
    Don't worry pain patients, now that the Captain has moved from the far east to the far west, there should be enough powder heroin for everyone. There is no powder heroin in Los Angeles county from what I can tell. I hear whomever is bringing in the tar might be bringing in some powder, but until I see it, I won't believe it. And I don't do heroin anymore anyways.

    BTW - amazing screen name man. mp3 player (my p2) and head phones is a MUST HAVE while tripping on LSD!
    I just wish I could still get the stuff...sucks living in the woods. I had a great connection many years ago but he isn't around anymore. I haven't had a trip on LSD in going on ten years now. But I'm planning on moving soon so maybe my luck will change!

    Never messed with H, like I've said elsewhere it just doesn't go around where I am located. I've been reading a lot about it on bluelight though.

    I read in other threads that generic Opana should be coming out in a few months, so maybe this won't be so bad after all. Time will tell.

    Heart goes out to all you guys with chronic pain out there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricomb View Post
    I've tried the first two with moderate success. I'm lucky enough not to always need around the clock relief, but I daresay it can be much more convenient using ER meds, just for the stability of them.

    I do like IR meds don't get me wrong, give me the dilaudid any day.
    How much oral dilaudid does it take to kill your pain? to get high?

    I never got to try oxymorphone. Kinda sucks.

    re: generic opana - I heard that the pharm company gets to keep their exclusive patent longer if they put out this new "anti abuse" formulation. not sure if that's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeadphonesandLSD View Post
    I just wish I could still get the stuff...sucks living in the woods. I had a great connection many years ago but he isn't around anymore. I haven't had a trip on LSD in going on ten years now. But I'm planning on moving soon so maybe my luck will change!

    Never messed with H, like I've said elsewhere it just doesn't go around where I am located. I've been reading a lot about it on bluelight though.

    I read in other threads that generic Opana should be coming out in a few months, so maybe this won't be so bad after all. Time will tell.

    Heart goes out to all you guys with chronic pain out there!
    I was told the new Opana ER will be on the shelves n Florida by April 1
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    I'll ask two of my friends in the area if they have any problems re-filling next month, I've already made them aware of it thanks to this thread so they're on the look out.

    I won't give my exact location, but I am north of you. Of course I'm sure when it does start to happen we're going to have people rolling in here asking about it.
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    Feel sorry for all the Opana users out there, especially the ones that really need them. The people that snort them are gonna go through some serious withdrawals. I personally never tried them so im not missing out luckily.
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    Does anybody have an official press release from the makers of Opana (or, even better, the U.S. FDA) in regards to this?

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    Yes, my mother is prescribed these and she told me the factory was shut down due to the poor conditions (dirty machines, powder everywhere) supposedly, though, the factory will be back open by May and Opana will be prescribed once again. she also said that her pain clinic gave her the excuse that that "quit making them," which is simply not true, the FDA shut the factory down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeighborhoodThreat View Post
    Does anybody have an official press release from the makers of Opana (or, even better, the U.S. FDA) in regards to this?
    I'm looking into this on the Endo website. They do have a product listing for a new formulation of Opana ER, so I checked it out. The older one had the TimeRx gelling mechanism, which was the same as in the Xanax XR.

    Here is the listing for the inactive ingridients in the old vs new formulation, and we can compare that to the new OxyContin inactives.

    Opana ER Inactive Ingridients (original forumlation)
    The tablets contain the following inactive ingredients: hypromellose, methylparaben, silicified microcrystalline cellulose, sodium stearyl fumarate, TIMERx-N, titanium dioxide, and triacetin. The 5 mg, 10 mg, 15 mg, 20 mg, and 30 mg tablets also contain macrogol, and polysorbate 80. In addition, the 5 mg, 7.5 mg, and 30 mg tablets contain iron oxide red.
    • The 7.5 mg tablets contain iron oxide black, and iron oxide yellow.
    • The 10 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6.
    • The 20 mg tablets contain FD&C blue No. 1, FD&C yellow No. 6, and D&C yellow No. 10.
    • The 40 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6, D&C yellow No. 10, and lactose monohydrate.

    Opana ER Inactive Ingridients (new forumlation)
    The tablets contain the following inactive ingredients: hypromellose, polyethylene oxide, polyethylene glycol, α-tocopherol, citric acid, polyvinyl alcohol, titanium dioxide, macrogol and talc. In addition, the 5 mg, 7.5 mg and 30 mg tablets contain iron oxide red. The 7.5 mg tablets contain iron oxide black, and iron oxide yellow.
    • The 10 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6.
    • The 20 mg tablets contain FD&C blue No. 1, FD&C yellow No. 6, and D&C yellow No. 10.
    • The 40 mg tablets contain FD&C yellow No. 6, and D&C yellow No. 10

    OxyContin/OxyNeo Inactive Ingridients
    Inactive ingredients in all strengths: butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), hypromellose, polyethylene glycol 400, polyethylene oxide, magnesium stearate, titanium dioxide.
    • The 10 mg tablets also contain: hydroxypropyl cellulose.
    • The 15 mg tablets also contain: black iron oxide, yellow iron oxide, and red iron oxide.
    • The 20 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80 and red iron oxide.
    • The 30 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80, red iron oxide, yellow iron oxide, and black iron oxide.
    • The 40 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80 and yellow iron oxide.
    • The 60 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80, red iron oxide and black iron oxide.
    • The 80 mg tablets also contain: hydroxypropyl cellulose, yellow iron oxide and FD&C Blue #2/Indigo Carmine Aluminum Lake.

    It appears that the new formulation of Opana ER is not the same as the OP OxyContin. I underlined the only inactive ingridient that was not in the older formulation but is now in the new Opana ER forumulation, and is also found in the OxyContin formulation, and it was the polyethylene glycol (which might not be exactly the same since one has "400" after it). If that is the only thing that makes up the taper resistance in the OxyContin, then the Opana will be the same way I guess, but I doubt that the one ingridient does it all. That doesn't mean that this will be any more or less effective though.

    I am not a chemist so all of this is an educated guess. Feel free to point out anything that I may have incorrect.

    For those of you interested in doing your own research, here is where the product listings are found:
    http://www.endo.com/endopharma/our-products
    http://www.purduepharma.com/Products...s/default.aspx
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