AjaxTheCleaner
Greenlighter
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- Sep 3, 2009
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SWIM has prepared rigs for every pill form of bupe except the Hi-Tech/Midlothians... until now. SWIM was (allegedly) forced onto the cute little 8/arrow-branded mofos by his insurance company, or so he says, but that's neither here nor there. I just wanted to add my .02 to the equation because I've read every post in this thread and found very little on this aspect of the Teks which was raised by the OP.
I was initially in agreement with suggestions that the cotton-filtered solution made with these harmless-looking generics seemed to be alarmingly viscous when compared to that of brand Subutex or even other generics. I didn't notice this so much with freshly prepared rigs, but the ones that sat for several minutes or longer seemed to develop increased viscosity over time to the point where so much force had to be applied to the plunger as to visibly deform the rubber plunger tip! Of course one would rightfully be horrified at the thought of pushing such a thick substance into their circulatory system.
Through a bit of quasi-scientific experimentation and deduction I came to realize that the mixture is actually not noticeably any different in terms of viscosity from the prepared mixtures of other bupe pills. What gives it the feeling and appearance of being thicker/more viscous is that, for whatever reason, it seems to dramatically increases stiction (static friction) between the internal wall of the syringe and the rubber plunger tip. It's as if there were microscopic sand particles in the mix -- either that or something is corroding the contact surfaces in pretty short order. Either way, it's not as if this is good news for proponents of this particular ROA when it comes to these particular generics. I haven't noticed this phenomenon with any of the other forms of Bupe. I would almost feel better if viscosity was the issue.
SWIM has also mentioned, in support of what many others here have stated, that these particular generics do not seem to work as well as others. I hear the argument about perception but for reasons I won't go into I just don't believe that is an issue with SWIM. I think there's more to it than psychology.
I was initially in agreement with suggestions that the cotton-filtered solution made with these harmless-looking generics seemed to be alarmingly viscous when compared to that of brand Subutex or even other generics. I didn't notice this so much with freshly prepared rigs, but the ones that sat for several minutes or longer seemed to develop increased viscosity over time to the point where so much force had to be applied to the plunger as to visibly deform the rubber plunger tip! Of course one would rightfully be horrified at the thought of pushing such a thick substance into their circulatory system.
Through a bit of quasi-scientific experimentation and deduction I came to realize that the mixture is actually not noticeably any different in terms of viscosity from the prepared mixtures of other bupe pills. What gives it the feeling and appearance of being thicker/more viscous is that, for whatever reason, it seems to dramatically increases stiction (static friction) between the internal wall of the syringe and the rubber plunger tip. It's as if there were microscopic sand particles in the mix -- either that or something is corroding the contact surfaces in pretty short order. Either way, it's not as if this is good news for proponents of this particular ROA when it comes to these particular generics. I haven't noticed this phenomenon with any of the other forms of Bupe. I would almost feel better if viscosity was the issue.
SWIM has also mentioned, in support of what many others here have stated, that these particular generics do not seem to work as well as others. I hear the argument about perception but for reasons I won't go into I just don't believe that is an issue with SWIM. I think there's more to it than psychology.
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