Llama persistence factor? Intriguing! Is there an explanation of this phenomenon somewhere?
LOL total synchronicity, just glanced at my other (primary) screen where a tv show is playing and saw a llama - completely unrelated to anything in the plot from what I am keeping track of... anyway just like this reply is tardy, the llama persistence factor refers to Mr. AcidMolly&Speed over yonder who just celebrated a post count anniversary and also keeps yapping all whacked on stims. :D (imagine that what I just said was in an amused tone, not annoyed of course).
One has to wonder whether there is a relation between the 10K postcount on his name, the mutant rants of significant chemical origin and the colossal magnitude of the previous social thread.
Aha, thatsss.... mostly a pothead calling a kettle black isn't it. Don't know exactly what I was waiting for leaving that other one open. I guess beyond a certain point the size can raise performance issues for those dialing in on a 14K4? But the whole thread is not loaded entirely though? Okay then, probably becoming a topic for us technicians backstage around this point or a few sentences back.
Also, I don't mean to be a party pooper or make a problem out of certain previous posts just yet... but watch the synthesis discussion please gentlemen and obviously I know that propositions are made jokingly but just to clarify for those non-regulars in here [*sound of crickets chirping and a pin dropping*] there is a line not to cross.
Let me re-check but I guess everything about biker meth and all that is just basic publicly known references. Maybe I should just admit that I am not quite sure how much synth discussion is allowed that can be found anyway with 2 google queries. I guess it's just one of those things where we'd rather just keep it close to zero regarding details... just to be sure. On the other hand, there is probably not one person who is really getting educated by the chem talk in the sense that something can be achieved with it.
I am of course fine with the general remarks that technically European labs could choose to switch to meth based on what materials are used and the obvious similarities.
Actually it seems realistic to me that the reason this is not done in Europe is a simple question of demand or lack thereof, as a consequence of stigmatization from the nasty stories transmitted from the States. What do you think? If I am also considering my personal perspective something peculiar seems to happen: Even though meth/ice and dexamphetamine are said to be somewhat similar (according to a friend of mine) I really hesitate to try meth. I possess only a tiny amount I received as a gift, barely a hit I think... but I have just left it 'sitting on the shelf'. I am anxious about it, almost certainly as a result of media reports about excesses in N-America. Actually doing this, I am ignoring the fact that amphetamine excesses exist here... even though I have personal experience with amphetamine binges! It seems more convenient to reverse the argument that meth and amph are not *that* far apart, and make that a reason why it isn't worth the potential trouble to try it. There is no domestic source for it that I know of, so the risk or trouble may be like 'far away' or better said 'remote' right now, but I guess that getting a taste for such a thing once drills deep into your memory, it might interest me or fascinate me and I might look for it or I might then accept it in the future if it becomes unexpectedly available. All in all, it just seems like it is amphetamine with a LOT of different properties exaggerated, the good ones and the bad ones. Exaggerated by how much, I could not say of course. And I already in a way despise that I have a taste for regular amph. In the past I swore for years that I would never get involved with speed, even while heavily experimenting with psychedelics and other stuff.
(There is an analogous development with my stance on the matters of opiates and heroin. I already find it unhealthy and bothersome that I occasionally use opiates or opioids, but in periods in between rarely or not at all. I also stick to the weakest types that have side-effects that make abuse more or less undesirable, just to be sure. I have since long sworn never to try heroin, not even once, and looking at my track record it is probably best if I never do try the heaviest calibers of stims and opiates. But the crooked thing about it is that I didn't make that much of a fuss about trying oxy, even though it apparently comes close to H. A very recent erowid report describes oxy as a cleaner high but less long-lived. Of course the ROA matters quite a bit and I refuse to IV anything).
Anyway my point about the amph/meth comparison and stigma and the rest in what I wrote above, is that I can imagine that neither producers nor users would care to see things escalate if meth circulates and surges in popularity. Maybe that is naive, I guess people are just looking to make money so if there was more demand for it, it would be there right? So then that probably means that its the European amph users that are satisfied with amph as a product - satisfied in the sense that it does the trick well enough not to warrant the risks that American media portray.
You know, there are some people that study drug trends in my country that I should ask the opinion of, on the subject of these dynamics.
On an unrelated note, next monday is my (first) appointment with my shrink and if it is up to me, I will be starting on mirtazepine that same day. I feel good about it's potential, to consolidate a healthy rhythm of sleeping, waking and eating and reducing some fear/anxiety/depression that impairs my motivation to pick up my life again. If it works like it should, then I will also have no more need for self-medication and all it's trouble, plus it compells me not to go and use drugs for vague reasons like the boredom that comes from the constant avoidance of carrying on with stuff, stuff that requires some work but that gives the day so much meaning... like high creative productivity or cooking a delish meal instead of microwave meals. Renewed abstinence is overdue, I did alright for a while but lately I have dabbled too much in things again that don't have a point, not like psychedelics do.
The lazy stim/gabaergic addict asshole in me will have to suck it when I start on meds, that is entirely a good thing. But psychedelics I will truly miss... again!
Oh, sorry for not slowchatting like the social thread is basically meant for :S xD