Verybuffed
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Way too many times in 20 years of use. Sadly my last episode was this morning.
Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome Support Thread
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Way too many times in 20 years of use. Sadly my last episode was this morning.
WTF...this morning??? are u ok???
ive had 3 episodes of CHS and all put me out for a week each...in the ER...fuking so tragic..
i hope u are ok
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I am fantastic I have been clean for 24 hours now and all this rubbish is behind me again. Hopefully I can help some other people who are in the same situation.
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I have had to go for hospital for this so many times in the past that I now know how to treat it alternatively with a Locum Doctor and have an entirely separate support network. All you do in the hospital is take Ondansetron and lie in a bed with an IV while being observed. IMO that bed could be used by a much more deserving patient. I can afford to pay for my own treatment of this and prefer to do that rather than dumping it on the health system.
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I have also found Synthetic Cannabis Hypermesis to be a lot more intense and destructive than CHS.
please share what your home remedies are for this fuked up syndrome..
i already know u eat yoghurt daily..what else??
what meds do you keep at home for this as well when CHS flares up...
ive got maxalon/motilium at bay but that shit doesnt work...doesnt keep the stomach bile down. hurts
when i had my first episode the doctors said it was gastritis even though it wasnt..and coconut water was a big help. helped drastically
i already know u eat yoghurt daily..what else??
what meds do you keep at home for this as well when CHS flares up...
ive got maxalon/motilium at bay but that shit doesnt work...doesnt keep the stomach bile down. hurts
when i had my first episode the doctors said it was gastritis even though it wasnt..and coconut water was a big help. helped drastically
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Maxalon is for general Gastroenteritis and is nowhere near strong enough. You need an Chemo drug called Ondansetron that is branded as Zofran in Australia. I am assuming your an Aussie. It is a little wafer that dissolves in your mouth and they are very expensive. Talk to your GP and they will prescribe it. Nurses and Doctors use them for hangovers.
Just had my first solid meal today in 5 days. Got 3 hours sleep as well for a total of 15 hours over 5 days. Just had my first slight signs of improvement this morning.
Coconut milk is a natural laxative. That is the last thing I would want in my body in that state.
not coconut milk...coconut water.
yep im an aussie..ill hit up my GP thanks for your input.
now this might be a little off topic but after my last case of CHS i took a 6 month detox and during the that time i had headaches/migraines/pain at the back of the skull/feeling quite spacious at times/feeling like i cant turn my head quickly otherwise id get dizzy..
so i started to smoke again and i realised all the headaches and whatnot went away completely..i felt great
im detoxing now again from smoking for about 6 months and its been a 2 week detox..im starting to feel all that shit again. headaches and feeling spacious in the head.
i have no idea whats going on...i been thinking that i just need to smoke cones and ill be fine but im not really enjoying weed now and id like to have a long long break...
any ideas???
yep im an aussie..ill hit up my GP thanks for your input.
now this might be a little off topic but after my last case of CHS i took a 6 month detox and during the that time i had headaches/migraines/pain at the back of the skull/feeling quite spacious at times/feeling like i cant turn my head quickly otherwise id get dizzy..
so i started to smoke again and i realised all the headaches and whatnot went away completely..i felt great
im detoxing now again from smoking for about 6 months and its been a 2 week detox..im starting to feel all that shit again. headaches and feeling spacious in the head.
i have no idea whats going on...i been thinking that i just need to smoke cones and ill be fine but im not really enjoying weed now and id like to have a long long break...
any ideas???
So at home in Australia, I am a heavy smoker, I have weed all the time so I can smoke all the time. maybe only 5g a day though. But as I am typing this I lay in a hospital bed in Amsterdam.
Ive been reading about it, and all of the symptoms, down to the shower taking, fingers in throat and once i start to vomit I almost always cant stop for over 24 hours.
I use weed to help it when it happens because the doctors have told me my sickness was due to drinking too much alcohol. I havent drank in well over 2 months. But I have smoked alot of weed in the past 3-4 years. I will stop smoking for maybe 2 weeks, but then I'm in California and it would be silly not to smoke, this small break should be enough for me to get a bit better then ill be home in Aus, back to my good shower that makes me feel better.
When Id feel sick I'd usually smoke 2 cones then run off to take a shower, by the end of the shower id be better, hungry and pretty much over it, but it just isnt working right anymore.
Ive been reading about it, and all of the symptoms, down to the shower taking, fingers in throat and once i start to vomit I almost always cant stop for over 24 hours.
I use weed to help it when it happens because the doctors have told me my sickness was due to drinking too much alcohol. I havent drank in well over 2 months. But I have smoked alot of weed in the past 3-4 years. I will stop smoking for maybe 2 weeks, but then I'm in California and it would be silly not to smoke, this small break should be enough for me to get a bit better then ill be home in Aus, back to my good shower that makes me feel better.
When Id feel sick I'd usually smoke 2 cones then run off to take a shower, by the end of the shower id be better, hungry and pretty much over it, but it just isnt working right anymore.
I often have to detox for work drug tests, when working.
But I always go to the chemist and get a bottle of Thomsons Liver Cleanse it stops al cravings for it and everything because it flushes it completely from your system, also if you get tested, use this, do some eercise you'll be clean in 2 weeks max. done 6 months heavy clean in 5 days using that, water and exercise.
But I always go to the chemist and get a bottle of Thomsons Liver Cleanse it stops al cravings for it and everything because it flushes it completely from your system, also if you get tested, use this, do some eercise you'll be clean in 2 weeks max. done 6 months heavy clean in 5 days using that, water and exercise.
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So this disorder is amazing to me.
It's ludicrously rare -- on our board of ten-thousand some-odd cannabis users, many of them heavy users (including me) -- only maybe twenty people have it. It's also definitely real, definitely new, and definitely caused by something that usually relieves nausea. I'm thinking it's some sort of immune system reaction, because that's the idiosyncratic hair-trigger we-don't-know-what-it's-doing part of the body that is usually responsible for problems that make no sense.
The other weird thing -- it's concentrated in Australia. Now, the only reason it could be from Australia is if some sort of Australia-specific thing, like a pesticide, or a fungus, sensitizes people to cannabis, putting them at risk for CHS. Otherwise, Australian cannabis is just like all the other cannabis. It seems obvious, though, that once the syndrome occurs, it doesn't go away. This has some of the hallmarks of that tick-induced red meat allergy.
Is the nausea in any way alleviated or prevented by antihistamines or NSAIDs? Better yet -- both?
It's ludicrously rare -- on our board of ten-thousand some-odd cannabis users, many of them heavy users (including me) -- only maybe twenty people have it. It's also definitely real, definitely new, and definitely caused by something that usually relieves nausea. I'm thinking it's some sort of immune system reaction, because that's the idiosyncratic hair-trigger we-don't-know-what-it's-doing part of the body that is usually responsible for problems that make no sense.
The other weird thing -- it's concentrated in Australia. Now, the only reason it could be from Australia is if some sort of Australia-specific thing, like a pesticide, or a fungus, sensitizes people to cannabis, putting them at risk for CHS. Otherwise, Australian cannabis is just like all the other cannabis. It seems obvious, though, that once the syndrome occurs, it doesn't go away. This has some of the hallmarks of that tick-induced red meat allergy.
Is the nausea in any way alleviated or prevented by antihistamines or NSAIDs? Better yet -- both?
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WTF!!!
I've read all the thread and fuck me I'm getting paranoid about this fxxx. disease
I've been a daily smoker since 2005 and sometimes in the morning after a heavy smoker's night I probably have not hunger but that's all
Now I'am afraid this thing can catch me and never again be able to enjoy my holy weed!!!
could someone please post the firsts symptoms ? I mean before you start vomiting and having nausea.
I've read all the thread and fuck me I'm getting paranoid about this fxxx. disease
I've been a daily smoker since 2005 and sometimes in the morning after a heavy smoker's night I probably have not hunger but that's all
Now I'am afraid this thing can catch me and never again be able to enjoy my holy weed!!!
could someone please post the firsts symptoms ? I mean before you start vomiting and having nausea.
My other half is currently having one of these episodes. He smokes cannabis/skunk everyday, usually 3-4 maybe even 5-6 times a day. He sometimes even smokes twice before breakfast. He's been smoking it for about 8 years, before I even knew him. For the past two years he's been getting these episodes of stomach pain, constant vomiting, retching and the only thing that offers any relief is bathing. He also gets this craving for ice cold water. I'm mad at him right this second as what he's doing is drinking 1-2 glasses in one go then vomiting it out. He is under the impression that he needs to get rid of this stomach acid. Hes been doing this since 10pm and it is now 5am. I'm telling him to sip the water slowly and let his stomach rest but it is falling on deaf ears. My first research led me to cyclic vomiting syndrome but then I came across this which caught my eye due to the sufferer being a regular cannabis user and also having the urge to bath. I have told him what I've found but he is just not listening. I'm leaving him to it, we have a one year old who is used to sleeping in our bed so now me and him are sleeping in the front room listening to my husband go in and out of the kitchen, knocking back water and vomiting it all back out again and jumping in and out of a bath which he doesn't even bother emptying, he just tops it up with hot water. Is giving up the only cure? Because I don't think he will give up 
I don't think he believes it's the cannabis even though he's got symptom every of this and is perfectly healthy otherwise
I don't think he believes it's the cannabis even though he's got symptom every of this and is perfectly healthy otherwiseDoctor_Ew420
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I am almost positive this is just an effect of breathing smoke. Most of the regular tobacco smokers I know would complain of similar problems, but maybe they just think they are lactose intolerant or need to take it easy on spicy food.
Before I started smoking I would wake up every morning, vomit stomach bile and feel like absolute shit for an hour or so. Missed a lot of high school because of that. When I started smoking it went away. I do feel some stomach issues from time to time. I am slightly lactose intolerant though.
Since i have had so many troubles with sleeping and feeling ill upon waking up, I have talked to a lot of doctors. They say it doesnt matter if im smoking cigarettes, joints or yard trimmings, smoke causes a reaction that your stomach will create acids for. Some heavy smokers may be sufferers of heart burn like I am. The main thing I have noticed with the symptoms listed in this thread is sleep schedule! This is the most important part of being a healthy stoner, regular bedtimes and make sure to have a couple nights a week when you dont smoke a lot right before sleep (I know, sometimes hard) This took care of the morning sickness for me. I will smoke in the early afternoon to kick up my appetite for a huge lunch, but since I have become a regular smoker my main symptoms of morning sickness have stopped.
Before I started smoking I would wake up every morning, vomit stomach bile and feel like absolute shit for an hour or so. Missed a lot of high school because of that. When I started smoking it went away. I do feel some stomach issues from time to time. I am slightly lactose intolerant though.
Since i have had so many troubles with sleeping and feeling ill upon waking up, I have talked to a lot of doctors. They say it doesnt matter if im smoking cigarettes, joints or yard trimmings, smoke causes a reaction that your stomach will create acids for. Some heavy smokers may be sufferers of heart burn like I am. The main thing I have noticed with the symptoms listed in this thread is sleep schedule! This is the most important part of being a healthy stoner, regular bedtimes and make sure to have a couple nights a week when you dont smoke a lot right before sleep (I know, sometimes hard) This took care of the morning sickness for me. I will smoke in the early afternoon to kick up my appetite for a huge lunch, but since I have become a regular smoker my main symptoms of morning sickness have stopped.
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I was diagnosed with CH about a month and a half ago. I was in the hospital and during that time I didn't smoke for 5 days and felt much better, and they sent me home. I have smoked since I have been home and my symptoms (at least vomiting) appeared again yesterday and today. I wake up around 4am nauseous and I end up puking. Now my goal is to stop smoking. cannabis hyperemesis is NOT fun, and I do believe th
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I was diagnosed with CH about a month and a half ago. I was in the hospital and during that time I didn't smoke for 5 days and felt much better, and they sent me home. I have smoked since I have been home and my symptoms (at least vomiting) appeared again yesterday and today. I wake up around 4am nauseous and I end up puking. Now my goal is to stop smoking. cannabis hyperemesis is NOT fun, and I do believe that its true. It's either that or there's something wrong with me that the doctors don't know about. I'm 17. They did quite a bit of tests, all coming up negative.
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I would smoke endless blunts, and I would smoke A LOT of hash oil. Like four or five massive dabs in a row. I thought it was the butane that could have possibly gotten me sick but I have cut down tremendously and am still getting sick. (symptoms popped up yesterday again) I was sick for 3-4 weeks endless nausea & vomiting. Not much abdominal pain but there is some, scattered all over my stomach area
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I think it is worth just putting this information on this thread aswell. I hope the mods dont mind but I think it is only fair to show both sides of a story and as this is a support thread I would probably rather it be in here anyway
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I dont think I really need to post much on here. If you are also researching the non proven, poorly researched and poorly documented Cannabis Hyperemesis you will probably have seen me before looking for answers.
For equality purposes and anyone else reading who doesnt suffer these symptoms and are unsure...........there are other adult sufferers of this terrible vomiting syndrome that do not smoke cannabis aswell!! Make that of what you will! Infact a doctor who specialises in the field of the known syndrome of "Cyclic Vomiting" state that only 40% of her adult CVS sufferers smoke cannabis. So what exactly are the causes of vomiting for the others? Even the published studies say that abstaining cannabis doesnt work in every case!!!! In those same poorly done CHS studies, they only pick out and study CVS patients who smoke cannabis and ignore the patients who dont. What sort of study is that? A study that certainly wasnt funded by the CVSA that is for certain!
Here is a paper which was written by a CVSA specialist in which cannabis, although not condoned, it is quoted "The possible role of cannabis in causing CVS has been examined, although it remains controversial
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/933135-overview
That means a specialist who specialises in the area of cyclic vomiting has examined the possible role of cannabis in the illness and even she doesnt believe it!!!!! It doesnt take a genius to see that various doctors are not doing their research thoroughly enough and I invite anyone who believes they have cannabis hyperemesis to come over to the CVSA forum for a friendly discussion about it. I think doctors check that forum and would be very interested to hear from you. You will see the thread I have started, it would be great to hear your stories, more particularly your recovery after abstaining etc.
All that being said, I am NOT a doctor and maybe abstaining cannabis will help with your vomiting, some people report it does. However even more report it makes no difference. I think, like the CVS doctors think, it is a correllation rather than a causation. Infact in some states in USA in is prescribed for cyclic vomiting.....go figure?!
Thanks for listening and reading. Every side has 2 stories and this one there are people who claim abstaining cannabis worked, and others claiming it doesnt. As I said, 50-60% of CVS patients dont smoke cannabis so IMHO it cant be a cause.....does it make symptoms worse? Maybe in some, maybe not on others but I doubt it is solely to blame
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I will finally add aswell, if anyone is interested in the actual illness Cyclic Vomiting (what some doctors are claiming is caused by cannabis abuse)...........please watch Greys Anatomy this week 15th November 2012. It is based around a male patient who keeps ending up at the ER with this mysterious vomiting episodes and is finally diagnosed with cyclic vomiting. Lets see if he smokes cannabis eh? Incidentally, it is being directed by one of the actresses Dr Bailey (in the show). Her daughter suffers from cyclic vomiting and she is doing it to raise awareness of the illness. She doesnt smoke cannabis either!
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I dont think I really need to post much on here. If you are also researching the non proven, poorly researched and poorly documented Cannabis Hyperemesis you will probably have seen me before looking for answers.
For equality purposes and anyone else reading who doesnt suffer these symptoms and are unsure...........there are other adult sufferers of this terrible vomiting syndrome that do not smoke cannabis aswell!! Make that of what you will! Infact a doctor who specialises in the field of the known syndrome of "Cyclic Vomiting" state that only 40% of her adult CVS sufferers smoke cannabis. So what exactly are the causes of vomiting for the others? Even the published studies say that abstaining cannabis doesnt work in every case!!!! In those same poorly done CHS studies, they only pick out and study CVS patients who smoke cannabis and ignore the patients who dont. What sort of study is that? A study that certainly wasnt funded by the CVSA that is for certain!
Here is a paper which was written by a CVSA specialist in which cannabis, although not condoned, it is quoted "The possible role of cannabis in causing CVS has been examined, although it remains controversial
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/933135-overview
That means a specialist who specialises in the area of cyclic vomiting has examined the possible role of cannabis in the illness and even she doesnt believe it!!!!! It doesnt take a genius to see that various doctors are not doing their research thoroughly enough and I invite anyone who believes they have cannabis hyperemesis to come over to the CVSA forum for a friendly discussion about it. I think doctors check that forum and would be very interested to hear from you. You will see the thread I have started, it would be great to hear your stories, more particularly your recovery after abstaining etc.
All that being said, I am NOT a doctor and maybe abstaining cannabis will help with your vomiting, some people report it does. However even more report it makes no difference. I think, like the CVS doctors think, it is a correllation rather than a causation. Infact in some states in USA in is prescribed for cyclic vomiting.....go figure?!
Thanks for listening and reading. Every side has 2 stories and this one there are people who claim abstaining cannabis worked, and others claiming it doesnt. As I said, 50-60% of CVS patients dont smoke cannabis so IMHO it cant be a cause.....does it make symptoms worse? Maybe in some, maybe not on others but I doubt it is solely to blame
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I will finally add aswell, if anyone is interested in the actual illness Cyclic Vomiting (what some doctors are claiming is caused by cannabis abuse)...........please watch Greys Anatomy this week 15th November 2012. It is based around a male patient who keeps ending up at the ER with this mysterious vomiting episodes and is finally diagnosed with cyclic vomiting. Lets see if he smokes cannabis eh? Incidentally, it is being directed by one of the actresses Dr Bailey (in the show). Her daughter suffers from cyclic vomiting and she is doing it to raise awareness of the illness. She doesnt smoke cannabis either!
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I find it appalling that doctors confirm that hot bath/showers is very specific to this particular syndrome. It is very common for sufferers of "cyclic vomiting" to find relief from hot water be them cannabis smokers or not. There is "real" evidence to back the hot water theory up and it certainly doesnt involve cannabis. The doctors that report this are very uneducated when it comes to CVS or they would know this already! It is interesting a couple of you posted saying you dont get any relief from hot water. Trust me, you wold know if it worked or not
I have spoken to people who have been forced to abstain from cannabis by their GP but after 6 months with no change in symptoms he finally had to admit defeat and said it was not related. As I said above, what works for one doesnt necessarily work with another with this illness. Cannabis Hyperemesis is a theory at best. In every piece of literature and study done on CHS it is always stated "We dont know why this effect happens". So self admitting they are theorising the diagnosis based on a subset of CVS patients who smoke cannabis. The latest big Mayo Clinic study plucked 91 patients from 1500 because they smoked cannabis. Ofcourse they will find cannabis a link.....again what about the other non cannabis smoking CVS patients who get use hot water to relieve their symptoms?
Again, I am only posting to correct some of the poor information that is out there about CVS.
Thanks