1-2mg? i thought its weaker than 5-meo-dmt
1-2mg? i thought its weaker than 5-meo-dmt
That figure is a wild guess for threshold acitivity. I don't advise "jumping into the deep end" with this compound if you want to remain sane. "Proper" breakthrough activity might not even start until 30-50mg, but again that's a guess and not to be taken literally.
If you are talking about dosages for the orange gooey shit, nobody knows if that's even dimembfe anyway. I suggest flushing that.
Someone above mentioned getting a free sample of dimemebfe in the form of an orange goo.
how would ingest the orange goo?
also what are the dosages, i checked erowid but found nothing
That's because there is nothing known about this compound. No one can tell you what roa is best or what the dosage is because no one knows. The only way these thing are found out are by experimentation. If you really want to know, you're going to have to find out yourself.
I would like to try it but i dont want to overdose
Then use the good Dr. Shulgin's method. Start off with really low doses and work your way up. How do you think he compiled all of that dosage information? Most of the compounds he tried were new and completely unknown.
Plus, if you're really worried about overdosing at small dosage sizes, you shouldn't be taking the drug in the first place.
If you put it in the freezer, does it turn from gooey to crystalline - and when taken out does it turn to goo again? I'm just curious, it would not even be a conclusive test for anything, whether regarding identity or purity.
It is a bit suspicious that it sounds like the description for DMT, but that would be pretty silly if he sent you that for free saying its dimethyl-B.F.E (I refuse to use the other term for now, lol)...
When it boils down to true research chemical studies there are a few things to think of, one is indeed to be extremely careful as was suggested. And really think about that for a minute too.
Check the psychedelic index, at the bottom there should be a link to a document Illuminati Boy wrote on how to approach bio assays like this.
Basically this is new territory and the best that could happen is you have a novel and wonderful experience, but you could also have very little effect - a horrible trip of trainwreck intensity or health concerns if you are unlucky. Of course men like Shulgin go through trial and error, but do so meticulously. And also, they have an understanding of biochemistry that might indicate metabolism problems. By that I mean the compound itself might not be immediately suspect, but it helps to know about how it will be broken down by the body - get as much info on it as you can.
No one here should tell you what you should or should not do, decide that for yourself. I'd like some tasty new info on a chem, but I also value what health you have now, even if I don't know you.
Maybe this could be laid out for the ADD boys, to see what potential problems they might anticipate.
I would like to know how to crystallize this orange goo also
Recrystallization is probably similar to DMT/5-MeO-DMT, dissolve it in a minimum volume of hot hexanes/heptane and then coolit down.
It is possible this could be impure/degraded 5-meo-dmt passed off as the compound in question? 5-meo-dmt will turn into orange goo as it degrades.
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As does N,N if you don't store it properly, but it turns yellow first - not sure how much you'd have to mistreat the compound to make it go from white to orange.
Perhaps it is even a botched 5-MeO-MET synth that nobody bothered to clean up properly.
Is it possible ^ ? Yes but I am not 100% sure I know where this vendor operates from and he would have to be retarded to distribute scheduled drugs as free samples correct? (Don't answer the question about the vendor's location, there is no vendor discussion allowed, no brand names and also this is quite enough attempts at IDing the orange goo. We do not do ID threads, because we simply do not know and you should not draw incorrect conclusions or have a false sense of security)
Yes I suggested that other closely related tryptamines could have a similar color and texture - especially when talking impure. So there are a lot of possibilities, thats all I wanna say about IDing.
About recrystallizing - yes with the right solvents it would work if you know what you are doing and why it works that way. Otherwise you could easily end up wasting your sample quantity in trying to do a reX procedure but not getting something right. Granted you can evaporate in most cases, what I meant myself was the following: I have heard that N,N-DMT can lose consistency and turn gooey when left in the wrong conditions, but when putting it in the freezer that may apparently change the morphology again to make it more approximate to crystalline again. This should not be acutely reversible, as long as you do not let it degrade again. It sounds weird to me that it would not turn into goo again but what the hell do I know, DMT is apparently also piezoluminescent - that too is beyond me.
If there are trace oils or solvents in your tryptamine then freezing it will not solve anything since the oils do not solidify and they mess with any formation of a crystal lattice.
Solipsis: Yeah, that would be arguably correct, but I still think the name benzofuranyl tryptamine is valid for those analogues where one of the phenyl-ring O functions is cyclised back to that same ring enclosed in it's own 5-membered ring (NOT the class of compounds mentioned by the OP, because these are actually an O-for-N swap, meaning one cannot use the tryptamine family name anymore because that is a common name for a fused phenyl-pyrrole system (indole), with an 2-aminoethyl function at -3 - seeing as this structure skeleton is no longer present, you can't use the name). 'Benzofuran' could be used because the core system is still present, and the furan is bound to the benzene ring part of that core.
However: I suppose a better name would simply be furanyltryptamines (for 5-membered rings) or O-cyclised tryptamines (for <> 5-membered rings) . There is no common name for a 3-(2-aminoethyl)benzofuran system yet, AFAIK, for the OP.
Sorry, I still can't find the paper I was remembering, perhaps it was a patent or patent(s); if you're a person with many tens of thousands of papers saved under obscure names you might identify with this struggle . I will continue to look whenever I remember to! Real life beckons.
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It will be true that Dimemebfe (what a mouthful) is the benzofuranyl analog of 5-MeO-DMT with the indole nitrogen replaced with an oxygen.
well iv got my free sample coming monday or tuesday so i'll be the guinea pig to try this stuff and let you all know what its like just got to remember not to do my mesket mxe or 2-dpmp first
finally someone took the plunge
i was meant to when i posted this just had other thing i needed to buy that week . i am use to being a guinea pig until i found this site i didn't take much notice of dosage or dangers just jumped in both feet . i will say i am weary of this substance because iv had a few very bad trips so will be going slowly with it
Please write a trip report
if i can il write one lol most likely just post abit of info in here because i have a mad week planed out with my other chemicals .
cant wait for the info
well its looking like it will be later in the week having trouble getting any contact from them at the moment just says prosesing order and their not answering emails or phone
Any way to get it tested?
i took some of the orange goo on friday night and was not disappointed. I was describe it as like a good ecstasy pill for the first two hours that tails off into the effects a lowish ketamine dose. Your motor skills are tested (balance, walking can be a bit tricky) but its no worse than being quite drunk. Certainly not for the unexperienced though.