Here is a picture I made a while back. note this is assuming no chemical changes occur.
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Very interesting, thanks for posting!!!
Here is a picture I made a while back. note this is assuming no chemical changes occur.
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no, it is a problem. what is insoluble in room temp/cold water becomes soluble in a heated solution and once it cools down they become particulate matter again.
about your other question : you should release the tourniquet once you've registered. keeping it tied and injecting has the potential to burst the vein, yes. a lot of people complain of the needle slipping out once releasing the tourniquet so a good way avoiding this is re-registering to check you're still in the vein. you're inevitably going to have your arm move a little.
just out of curiosity do you use the old clamp between the teeth and release or under your thigh sitting down? or some other way?
I'll say it again, PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN SAKE DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT HEAT THE SOLUTION FOR INJECTING PILLS.
To shrug off simple advice like this which isn't even advice, but a FACT that it is bad for you defeats the purpose of harm reduction, and there is no point asking opinions if you are going to ignore fucking FACTS!!!
Not to sound like an asshole, but come on!
Also, I personally avoid tourniquets, but when I do use one, or alternatively, if someone squeezes my arm for me to help a vein pop out, I will often first register, then LOOSEN, but not completely release, to ensure the needle stays in place without blowing a vein. Or at least I used to.Thing is, I'm a pro now; once you do it every single day long enough, you'll know your in a vein before you register, and can usually tell if it's secure or not.
But what I am wondering is this:
Why do you even need a tourniquet? When I first started IV'ing, it took months to run out of veins before a tourniquet was needed, and once I learned what I was doing, I still rarely needed it, and it's been that way a long time. I think you need to take some time to learn which veins are viable, and make sure your not damaging them too much, so you don't have to worry about sitting on your thigh often or anything. And remember, if you can FEEL it, you should be able to hit it, but seeing can be a bit less reliable.
Word, that makes sense, the only pill that I do heat is MS Contin, cause you have to, which obviously its not smart to shoot any pill, but I since got a Micron Filter, so I filter the shit out of my MS Contins. Didn't think i was gonna be able to get one til i ordered it offline, but I found this place in the next city over that sells medical supplies and they had them there, .22 microns, which is what I was recommended, and from what i've seen in peoples posts, that seems to be what most people use.
and to answer you question, I just wrap it around my bicep, and the put the end of it between the inside of my arm and my side, and just hold it there using my arm pressed against my side, and then when i need it to be released i just move my arm a lil and it loosens it. Seems to be the easiest way to do it by yourself, without having to move your arm to much.
And I Do follow the advice, i stopped heating all my pills after reading what others posted, except the MS Contins, because if you dont heat the ones I get, they just turn into gel, and I learned the process of prepping them from people on this forum (not saying that makes it right) and several other people do it the same way, cause like i said, if you drop the crushed up MS Contins into fresh, cold water, it just gels up completely, I don't kno why, but it does, I wasted my first to MS Contins, trying to figure out how to do it, by just dropping them in there. but like I said above, I got a .22 Micron Filter, and I filter it a couple times, still its not exactly the best idea to shoot up it up, but shooting up in general just isn't the best idea lol so what are you gonna do, addiction is a bitch.
As to why i use a tourniquet even tho I just started IV'ing a few weeks ago, it just makes it easier for me to see my veins, I have a lot of tattoos and it makes it hard for me to see them, i can feel them, but I just feel more comfortable being able to see. I can also tell when I am in a vein too, i can fill the difference of the needle puncturing a vein, and not puncturing it. Makes kind of a tiny pop feeling when it enters, almost like when you pierce your ear and it makes that loud pop sound when it goes through the cartlidge, and you can feel the the pop too, except obviosuly when it comes to veins, i cant hear the popping sound, but i feel it, tho like i said, its subtle. Sometimes I have a bitch of a time getting the needle into a vein on my right arm, dont kno why, but sometimes i gotta pull out a lil and change the angle and then push it back in. There has been a few times when I've gotten very frustrated tho, and just pulled the needle completely out and took a break for a second and came back to it lol I am still getting it down. But i am at the point to where 8 times out of 10, i hit the vein on the first puncture. But I've only missed twice, and that was just when i was in a hurry, which in the back my head i kinda thought i had slipped out of the vein, but i was stupiod and in a hurry and push down on the plunger anyways. But since the last time it happened a few days ago, i dont ever push on teh plunger unless i am 100% sure its in the vein, if i even think its not, i pull out and try again ju
Well I am glad to hear it. I can't say for sure, but I think there is an alternate for for you to IV the mscontin. Be weary, though. The shit that dissolves in hot water WILL resolidfy once the water cools. Morphine is water soluble; should giving it time to dissolve, and then drawing through a filter work? As I said, I don't have much experience with the MScontins, as I never was a fan of morphine(ironic, since H is mainly a delivery vehicle for morphine)
And don't worry, you'll get it down. Sounds like your doing pretty good, so far. Or at least as good as one can do injecting pills LOFL.
this may be a bit old but bottled water is 99% tap water and in some cases tap water js actually cleaner than bottled water. Swim was surprised to find this out as well but at least you are self awareI had another question related to IV use. I just recently started IV'ing, about 2 weeks ago. I am very clean and careful, take my time, use rubbing alcohol, fresh needles (tho tonight i reused a needle, but it had only been used one time, tho i still kno thats not ideal, it was the last needle i had to use til i get more tomorrow). But anyways, like i said, I am very clean, and careful, dont share needles. Make sure everything is clean and sterile. I clean the injection site with Rubbing Alcohol, and I always heat up the water i use regardless of needing to for whatever drug, cause heating the water up before mixing the drug in it and sucking it up, helps get rid of any bacteria in the water. And I always use water from a water bottle, just cause it seems cleaner then using tap water (that part is probably not true, just my preference tho) So i pretty much got good IV technique down. But What I was wondering is, do you take the turniquet off before or after you push down on the plunger to inject the drug. I was taught that you keep it on, and then once you finish injecting the drug, you take it off, then pull the needle out. But i've heard mixed things, from people saying to take it off as soon as you get the needle in the vein, before you inject the drug, and someone people say not to take it off til after injecting the drug. So which one is true, and the best/safest method ?
I'll say it again, PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN SAKE DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT HEAT THE SOLUTION FOR INJECTING PILLS.
To shrug off simple advice like this which isn't even advice, but a FACT that it is bad for you defeats the purpose of harm reduction, and there is no point asking opinions if you are going to ignore fucking FACTS!!!
Not to sound like an asshole, but come on!
That's all the more reason to not heat pills.... Imagine all that shit crashing out that didn't dissolve until heated once the solution cools down in your body. Imagine how clogged your veins would be.
Just crush the pill and cold mix. There's never an excuse to heat pills without a micron filterI am aware of that. But as I said...most hardcore opiod addicts(and even a lot of the not so hard core addicts) will do what needs to be done in order to take away the HELL that is WD's. MANY of us have been there MANY times...you make a sacrifice or take a risk in order to end the suffering....you'll practically do anything to stop the pain like rob your own family or sell your body. So heating pill matter to feel better is actually one of the lesser risks junkies take in comparison depending on how you look at it, from what perspective, and how often/long it is done. NOT THAT I CONDONE OR RECOMMEND HEATING YOUR PILLS FOR IV USE. PLEASE DON"T DO THAT. AND PLEASE DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO PREVENT FROM PUTTING YOURSELF IN A POSITION WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION "TO HEAT OR NOT TO HEAT".
So...I'm guessing from your response that you don't have any ideas as to how to get around that particular problem? I'm not asking for my benefit...I'm asking for anyone who finds themselves in the same dilemma that I found myself in the past and has been deciding, as I did, that they needed the drugs too much to let the risks of heating a pill shot stop them from going thru with it.
...and of course, you never know, I may find myself an addict again in the future(pray to whomever that doesn't happen) and in that case, a solution to this problem would be greatly appreciated and beneficial to me.