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    I tried capsules takes a hell of alot drinking it in water is terrible whats the best way to ingest any thoughts answer ???
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    Do you expect there to be another way?
    Drinking/ingesting the pills is it, I highly doubt you could snort or plug Kratom.
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    I took 25 800-1000mg capsules Im thinking its low potency which isnt a whole lot but still.
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    Try purchasing UEI Kratom, so you can get high with only 2-3 king size capsules.

    The $/dose ratio is higher than with regular Kratom but I don't mind paying more to avoid tasting kratom loll!!
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    I looked up some of these other kratom like extract and its very expensive
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    Yes extracts are your best bet. UEI is a good bet. If Kratom is not pleasant for you, and the extracts are too expensive, then maybe Kratom is just not for you.
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    When I abused Kratom daily I found that the best method of injecting was definitely caps. Tea tasted disgusting, grimmy and took forever to get down, I tried putting it in a shot glass filled with honey (which ended up with me throwing up for half an hour) and I tried parachuting it.
    Caps are tasteless, and as long as you can avoid the taste, you're good.

    Buy a huge amount online in powder form and cap it yourself. Cheapest way to go.
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    get one of those cap'em'quick machines. works well.

    I disagree about the extracts. the raw stuff is a better deal, more bang for your buck and the more pure feeling (something is missing from the extracts subjectively). per unit dose the extracts wind up being costlier. with one of the cap em quick machines you may wind up taking 10, 20 capsules a day, but it's the more economic route and more pleasant
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeKindaLove View Post
    with one of the cap em quick machines you may wind up taking 10, 20 capsules a day, but it's the more economic route and more pleasant
    Lol, I was going through 20 grams of "Super Premium Malaysian Kratom" a day, and I had to cap them myself. I couldn't imagine having a machine that would do it for me.
    I'd be inhaling those things.
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    well I took 25 caps this take large 800-1000mg and its good maybe a little much Ill do 16 next time and see how that does.I know everyone has their own opinion im hearing extract not extract which is better bang for your buck Im thinking the non extract its pretty cheap it but it does take alot more.whats the dose for higher extracts uei 15x 20x and other brands please I could use alot of info on this.Im going for amanitas muscaria next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jesus View Post
    Lol, I was going through 20 grams of "Super Premium Malaysian Kratom" a day, and I had to cap them myself. I couldn't imagine having a machine that would do it for me.
    I'd be inhaling those things.
    I was taking 10-12 of them ("000" cap ~= 750-850mg) in the morning, at lunch, and before bed, plus suboxone. Curious fact- the Kratom withdrawal had some specificities to it that weren't entirely attended to by the suboxone. I still felt Kratom-sick if not dope-sick.
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    kratom has withdraws?if so are they really terrible?
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    RTFM dude
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeKindaLove View Post
    RTFM dude
    RTFM? Read the fucking manual?
    LOL
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    did I just show my age? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordreven333 View Post
    kratom has withdraws?if so are they really terrible?
    Nah, never got a withdrawal from kratom... that or I just wasn't sober enough to feel a difference (at that time I was freebasing jwh-081 all day, errday).

    You'll be fine. The worst thing that I noticed with kratom were the disgusting burps that come from taking too much. Thinking about that taste makes me gag...
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    I noticed an opioid like high but only in my head the other day from kratom it seemed very strange..
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    kraotm is definitely physically addictive as many bluelighters can attest to
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    ^Yes, it is much worse generally if the extracts are used as well.

    I recommend 000 capsules for taking kratom leaf easily. I also recommend the ground leaves over the extracts.
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    I know this is an old thread but mega dosing on vit C in lipo spheric form really takes the withdrawal away u just have to go online to find the vit c to weight ratio. Also, Kratom does cause mouth issues. I got thrush from downing Kratom to get off of methadone. Went to a doc with a clean bill of health.. She asked if I had eaten anything new and lots of it.. Well yes mam.. Tons of Kratom tea! I got capsules and took my Meds for thrush.. Why would we get thrush and stomach aches from Kratom? Well, because of where and how it's prepared and the mold that ends up on the Kratom. Truly inevitable unless processed in a diff way. Mold will get in any plant that was once wet and left sitting and mold cause THRUSH! I took expensive probiotics and my med that my doc gave to me. Anyway.. That's the safest way to avoid thrush or bad breath or receding gums is capsules. Peace
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    I just take a spoonful of kratom powder, put it in my mouth, then take a large drink of water (or other beverage), swish it around and swallow the resulting kratom/liquid sludge. Yeah it doesn't taste pleasant but it doesn't taste that bad...definitely worse substances out there...ever consumed goldenseal extract, for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Jesus View Post
    You'll be fine. The worst thing that I noticed with kratom were the disgusting burps that come from taking too much. Thinking about that taste makes me gag...
    I could never taste cherry kool aid quite the same way again after using it to kill the taste of psilocybin mushroom tea decades ago.

    Thrush huh? I'll definitely think twice before using kratom again. I know there is probably no consensus on this but is there really any point to using kratom while still on buprenorphine? I have never noticed anything and have taken a decent dose.
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    OT: I just saw kratom BTC in a bodega in Harlem. Since it's behavioral toxicity is nowhere near that of synthetic CBs, it'll take a while for my colleagues and the media to catch on, although the Times has already ...
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    Just scanning through these comments and noticed a lot of weird responses. People saying it's not addictive, people suggesting this or that... makes me wonder how many people have actually tried decent Kratom and how long they've been on it.

    Yes - you most definitely can get physically addicted to Kratom. Regardless if it's red vein, white vein, green vein, enhanced Kratom, "normal strength" Kratom... doesn't matter. I'm not going to sit here and explain all of the science and big words but basically it interacts with your brain almost like an opioid - which is why it's a GOD SEND for people who use it to self-detox from opiate addiction (myself included --> http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/...rawal-Symptoms). But its not like you're going to suddenly become addicted as long as you don't take it for prolonged periods of time, and you're not taking way more than you need (assuming you use it for staving off opiate withdrawal that is).

    In my experience? It never got me "high". It did give me a nice, happy feeling whenever I took it but that euphoria feeling didn't last long and was nowhere near any type of opiate euphoria. But again, I was taking Kratom to come off opiates... not get high. But to answer your question, I found the best method for me was to mix it in applesauce. Scoop in a shallow/small bowl however much Kratom you want to take, dump in some applesauce (I just purchased the individual snack sized cups and would use one of those each time I took it), stir it around a minute so it's all mixed in and there's no actual powder that's not mixed in. At this point it's going to be a dark green color. After that, I'd use Gatorade to wash it down (regular Orange flavor seemed to work the best for me). Take as big of a spoon full of the applesauce mixture that you think you can swallow in 1 gulp at a time. Toss in the scoop, and then imediately sip some Gatorade - just enough to help it all go down in one big gulp - and then after you swallow, immediately chase it with a big swig of the Gatorade.

    Worked wonders for me. I mean of course there was a slight taste of the Kratom sometimes, but for the most part I didn't taste it at all as long as I gulped down the spoonful of applesauce mixture in one big swallow and then chased with a couple swigs of the Gatorade. But that's just this man's opinion. I did the toss & wash method the first couple times and just couldn't deal with it (I'd always inevidable get some powder stuck on the back of my tongue and end up gagging for 5 minutes trying to get it off). And there's no way I was going to waste time making my own pill capsules and have to choke down like 10 capsules, when the applesauce method could be over and down with in just a minute with virtually no taste issues.
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    I've heard chocolate milk hides the taste well. Didn't try that but did try a coffee drink (Starbucks Frappachino from gas or grocery) and it also hid the taste well.

    I've found it a bit hard to mix in liquid without getting lumps of dry powder. If you put like a 1/4 the volume of Kratom worth of water with it and stir it makes a damp paste that then mixes easily into liquid.

    Also, one day I had just opened a beer and used that to mix in. It tasted pretty bad and I also put the beer in a cup first and whipped it with a fork until it seemed like all the carbonation was gone before mixing. I then drank about 3 beers in total and the effects were noticeably stronger. Not sure if the alcohol dissolves some of active alkaloids or if it just makes your stomach absorb stuff faster. Tried it a few times and noticed it each time.

    Just a few experiences I've had.
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