David Kowalski
Ex-Bluelighter
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- Jan 6, 2011
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"I(or SWIM) have been a user of Dilaudid for many years and I have always enjoyed the rush from taking it IV. I recently tried Heroin for the first time and I did not think that the rush from Heroin was even close to the rush from Dilaudid. As a matter of fact, I did not think it was even in the same league. I did do the amount the recommended by this chart;
http://www.uofapain.med.ualberta.ca/For%20Professionals/Opioid%20conversion/Opioid%20conversion_PDF.pdf
According to this chart 5mgs of IV Heroin is equal to 10mg of IV Morphine. Then based on that I used this chart to figure how much morphine is equal to 12mgs of Dilaudid(my normal dose). Here is the chart;
http://www.medcalc.com/narcotics.html
If 5mg of H is equal to 10mg of morphine then this should mean that you need twice as much Morphine as Heroin for the same affect.
I normally take 12mg of Dilaudid IV at a time so put Dilaudid as drug name on the top line of the chart, the route should be IV/IM and the amount as 12mg Then click "calculate" and the conversion chart says that 12mg of Dilaudid is equal to 92.3mg of IV morphine and if you only need to take half of that amount of heroin since 5mg of H is equal to 10mg morphine so this means 46.15mg of Heroin is equal to 12mg of Dilaudid. Well when I did only 50mg of Heroin, I felt no rush and the affect of Vicodin was better then the 50mg of Heroin. Most of the conversion charts are not 100% accurate but they are really close. Just in case the conversion was a little more different then it stated in the chart, I did 100mg the second time and this time I did get a rush, but it was NOTHING compared to Dilaudid. I even think Oxycontin IV has a better rush then the Heroin did. But again this could be because the conversion charts are not very accurate and are probably on the safe side so no one dies from their recommendations.
Maybe the conversion is wrong and along with the possibility(or certainty) that the H was not 100% pure, I just didn't do enough. That is why I am making this post.
The heroin I'm sure was not 100% pure, but it was high in purity as it came as a rock like a rock of cocaine would look like if it was chopped right off the kilo. This usually means that no cut has been added to it as it is hard to make it into a hard chunk like that again. That's why when you by H or cocaine(not crack) and it is a rock, you know it will be good. If the package is full of pure powder like you see in the movies, then you know it has been cut. I recommend that you never by H or coke if it is pure power only because the only reason to break it up is to add something to it.
Can anybody that has a lot of experience using both of these drugs give their opinion of which one they think gives the best rush, Dilaudid or Heroin. Please only give your opinion based on your own personal experience and not on opinions you have heard from other. I only want to hear from the people that have actually did both so they can give an accurate opinion.
I would like to get as many opinions as possible so that I can get more data to make a better decision.
Again, please only reply if you have IV both Heroin and Dilaudid. I need to find out because I am prescribe D's for pain right now and I am losing my insurance at the end of the month. Heroin is much cheaper(at least I thought it was when I thought 100mg would do the trick)
When my insurance runs out, I need to decide if I should pay for my Dilaudid prescription or buy H, especially since it is cheaper and if most of the replies say that H is better, then I will probably have to start buying H instead of the D's
http://www.uofapain.med.ualberta.ca/For%20Professionals/Opioid%20conversion/Opioid%20conversion_PDF.pdf
According to this chart 5mgs of IV Heroin is equal to 10mg of IV Morphine. Then based on that I used this chart to figure how much morphine is equal to 12mgs of Dilaudid(my normal dose). Here is the chart;
http://www.medcalc.com/narcotics.html
If 5mg of H is equal to 10mg of morphine then this should mean that you need twice as much Morphine as Heroin for the same affect.
I normally take 12mg of Dilaudid IV at a time so put Dilaudid as drug name on the top line of the chart, the route should be IV/IM and the amount as 12mg Then click "calculate" and the conversion chart says that 12mg of Dilaudid is equal to 92.3mg of IV morphine and if you only need to take half of that amount of heroin since 5mg of H is equal to 10mg morphine so this means 46.15mg of Heroin is equal to 12mg of Dilaudid. Well when I did only 50mg of Heroin, I felt no rush and the affect of Vicodin was better then the 50mg of Heroin. Most of the conversion charts are not 100% accurate but they are really close. Just in case the conversion was a little more different then it stated in the chart, I did 100mg the second time and this time I did get a rush, but it was NOTHING compared to Dilaudid. I even think Oxycontin IV has a better rush then the Heroin did. But again this could be because the conversion charts are not very accurate and are probably on the safe side so no one dies from their recommendations.
Maybe the conversion is wrong and along with the possibility(or certainty) that the H was not 100% pure, I just didn't do enough. That is why I am making this post.
The heroin I'm sure was not 100% pure, but it was high in purity as it came as a rock like a rock of cocaine would look like if it was chopped right off the kilo. This usually means that no cut has been added to it as it is hard to make it into a hard chunk like that again. That's why when you by H or cocaine(not crack) and it is a rock, you know it will be good. If the package is full of pure powder like you see in the movies, then you know it has been cut. I recommend that you never by H or coke if it is pure power only because the only reason to break it up is to add something to it.
Can anybody that has a lot of experience using both of these drugs give their opinion of which one they think gives the best rush, Dilaudid or Heroin. Please only give your opinion based on your own personal experience and not on opinions you have heard from other. I only want to hear from the people that have actually did both so they can give an accurate opinion.
I would like to get as many opinions as possible so that I can get more data to make a better decision.
Again, please only reply if you have IV both Heroin and Dilaudid. I need to find out because I am prescribe D's for pain right now and I am losing my insurance at the end of the month. Heroin is much cheaper(at least I thought it was when I thought 100mg would do the trick)
When my insurance runs out, I need to decide if I should pay for my Dilaudid prescription or buy H, especially since it is cheaper and if most of the replies say that H is better, then I will probably have to start buying H instead of the D's