I hardly get any euphoria from opiates/opiods, and I've tried a lot of different kinds including codeine, hydro, oxy, dilaudid, tramadol and even heroin, I got mild euphoria off of oxys but dilaudid and heroin I get almost nothing. I mean, I know they're working because I get all the other effects, nausea, itchy, irritable, nodding, it just doesn't feel good. Kratom makes me feel how I always imagined opiates to feel for other people; content and happy, relaxed with a enjoyable body high. I only need 4 grams and I feel great. The only shitty thing is that I have to put up with about an hour with sort of uncomfortable, uneasy feelings before I get the good effects.