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Were you attracted to RCs because of their legality?

I am going to merge this thread with another thread which asks if people use RCs due to them being legal.
 
Yes. Wanted to score some JWH-018 before it became illegal. So glad I found real pot and not that possibly carcinogenic shit cut with who the hell knows what.

Salvia was another (used to be) legal drug I tried that made my entire jaw and face sore after using a little too much once. I was fucking miserable after that five minutes of fog.

Legal drugs are pretty much shitty alternatives to the illegal ones health-wise and experience-wise. Again a big fuck you to Richard Nixon.
 
I think the only research chemicals that are worthwhile are 4-AcO-DMT, 2C-E, DOM/C, AMT, DMT. The 25x-NBOMe's for their microgram dosage, you can do pretty fucked-up shit with that lol
 
EndlessSummer said:
Legal drugs are pretty much shitty alternatives to the illegal ones health-wise and experience-wise. Again a big fuck you to Richard Nixon.
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Nixon is clearly a bitch, don't get me wrong but I think you're misplacing Blame here. Prohibition in the US really began in 1914 with the Harrison Narcotics Act, the creation of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in 1930 and The Marijuana Tax Stamp Act in 1937 that all greatly preceded Nixon.

Nixon declared 'the war on drugs' but that's like if Obama declared war on Afghanistan in 2009 - it'd been going on a while before he got into office.

Nixon did change the Federal Bureau of Narcotics to the DEA essentially but in effect that didn't change a lot and otherwise he had the Comprehensive Substance Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 which mostly just created the modern system of drug scheduling. He didn't start prohibition and most of the escalations in drug policy either came before or after him yet he is cited as the godfather of fucking users up the ass because he propagandistically 'declared war'. He basically just coined a phrase.

In fact, throughout the duration of the Nixon Administration, close to 2/3's of the budget for the 'war on drugs' was allocated to treatment and prevention (demand side) and not to incarceration and interdiction (supply side and retributive avenues). These days it's the opposite where the vast majority of WoD funding goes to incarceration and interdiction.

Sorry for the largely off-topic rant, I just wanted to clarify :)
 
yougeekay said:
i just think RCs are bad, its like settling for something thats fake because its easier gratification, and the universe doesnt respond well to that.
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can you extrapolate? that's rather abstract. i thought the universe is embodiment of all that is and therefore could not be defined in terms of proper functionality/efficacy...as it seems to have no role [the universe] to play, other than being the word we ascribe to all that IS. or am i wrong. off topic I know, but do thrill me.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
Nixon is clearly a bitch, don't get me wrong but I think you're misplacing Blame here. Prohibition in the US really began in 1914 with the Harrison Narcotics Act, the creation of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in 1930 and The Marijuana Tax Stamp Act in 1937 that all greatly preceded Nixon.

Nixon declared 'the war on drugs' but that's like if Obama declared war on Afghanistan in 2009 - it'd been going on a while before he got into office.

Nixon did change the Federal Bureau of Narcotics to the DEA essentially but in effect that didn't change a lot and otherwise he had the Comprehensive Substance Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 which mostly just created the modern system of drug scheduling. He didn't start prohibition and most of the escalations in drug policy either came before or after him yet he is cited as the godfather of fucking users up the ass because he propagandistically 'declared war'. He basically just coined a phrase.

In fact, throughout the duration of the Nixon Administration, close to 2/3's of the budget for the 'war on drugs' was allocated to treatment and prevention (demand side) and not to incarceration and interdiction (supply side and retributive avenues). These days it's the opposite where the vast majority of WoD funding goes to incarceration and interdiction.

Sorry for the largely off-topic rant, I just wanted to clarify :)
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sounds like someone is secretly not loathing Nixon in his grave, as he should.
Nancy Reagan it was, who started the real war on drugs. She was, is, and forever will be, the true warrior heading the army against the terror of doobie puffing ruffians interfering with America's bright future just within grasp and coming up shortly.
 
For me, legality has nothing to do with it. The only reason I use RC's is out of curiosity.

It started with methylone, not because it's "like MDMA", because I could get pure MDMA easily for around the same price, and had experience with it already. I just wanted to see how this drug would affect me, and if it might be useful for different situation then MDMA. It turned out to be an interesting drug, and I ordered it a few times afterwards.

Mephedrone and similar compounds were never that interesting to me, as there were a lot of weird side-effects, and I had no reason to take the risk, as pure MDMA and other illegal drugs like ketamine and 2c-b are still easily available.

Nowadays I'm more interested in psychedelic and dissociative RC's, as I don't see the need for other stimulants then amphetamine (which I use rarely nowadays anyway) or drugs similar to MDMA (which I use less then before as well) when these 2 are so easily available.

I now have tried methoxetamine and 5-MeO-MiPT, loved both, and am now looking into other psychedelics. I probably won't use any other dissociatives as many seem to hold a high risk of mania or psychosis. Next on the list: 4-AcO-DMT and aMT.
 
I was attacted to them because:

- There are a lot of good things on offer. It just so happens that my two favourite substances are RCs and available online (Mephedrone and Methoxetamine)
- You don't have to meet up with dealers
- If you're using a legit vendor (I am) you can be sure of a quality substance whereas on the street you never know what you're going to get in terms of purity
- And yes, of course, wouldn't you rather your favourite things be legal?
 
2 reasons

1. Yes, I think it is pretty damn awesome to be able to get an incredibly pure supply of a substance for a (generally) reasonable price and not get in any trouble for it.

2. More importantly, they are different chemicals with different effects. My favorite psychedelic is LSD but as of late, it isn't so available like it has been in the past for me. On the other hand, in the last 6 months or so, I've tried several different chemicals which I didn't need to worry about cuts or quality or availability (for the most part). I never got into meph or mdpv though, my main interest in RC's are the psychedelic ones.
 
Yes. The legality of RC's attracted me initially.

I live on the east coast and I haven't found a speck of mdma in over a year. Wasted money on piperazines, putting myself in dangerous situations and sketchy dealers prompted me to start trying chemicals that could be easily ordered with my card and sent to my mailbox. Mephedrone, 4-fa and methylone, although not as good as true mdxx chemicals, are a lot more convenient to obtain and quite a bit of fun on their own. I'd choose mdma any day of the week, but I can be sure I'm getting pure mephedrone online and not the usual bzp, tfmpp on the streets.
 
I never would have bothered to try RC's had they been illegal - I only bought RCs when I was out of illegal drugs and out of 'real' contacts. Tried a few RCs but never had a good trip on them. Sweating profusely and feeling like I'm about to die for 6 hours on end do not qualify as good experiences to me.
 
pihkal and tihkal was what got me interested in rc's. Before i heard about any of these drugs, i thought all there was to psychs was just acid, shrooms, mesc, dmt, and ibogaine. I pretty much knew these were drugs that i would just have to sample As soon as i discovered that there were thousands of tryptamines and phenethylamines with effects running the gamut from euphoric empathogen with loveley eye candy visuals right down to full blown earth shattering psychedelic. ive always been fascinated by psychs knowing theres thousands of different ones out there makes me want to sample them all. so far ive only explored the 2cx but hope to sample DOx drugs and the various tryptamines.
 
I thought they were not real drugs, they were new to me, they were "safe" fun legal.. no drug tests could detect them when i used.... ya... turned out a bad idea :(
 
^ I hope the following words don't come across as condescending and by reading your post, it sounds like you learned a lesson.

Imo, research chemicals should be regarded with just as much legitimacy as illicit ones; remember, lsd and mdma were both considered research chemicals at one time as well as being legal.
 
What a great thread and kudos for saving it from the fire.

I did not get onboard for a long time as there legality made them unattractive.

I had just recovered from my first period of heroin addiction and while I did not stop going out completely it more or less destroyed my tendency to socialise. When I first got cleaned up, I had a 6 month period doing nothing but started a long term relationship with a long standing mashup comrade who's home was always the life and soul and huge source of drugs - we never dealt anything ourselves but as we had so many around that did to socialise it was a natural network centre for the social supply of anything outside crack and heroin (as in my personal experience they operate on a different level). I had just started getting back into the habit of partying when and ecstasy drought hit the UK, with the bottom having fallen out of the market for tablets. They had just gotten so cheap by then, on average ?2 a pop for what were still amazing beans, that it was becoming less worth the risk for dealing a Class A (UK equivalent of a Schedule 1 criminal drug offence), that as soon as they started to dry up they all began to contain piperazine blends which were of course legal and remain legal to posses, there distribution only being criminalised by the blanket ban in 2016.

But although I understood how foul were, on some nights I still boshed them as they could be fun if you tolerate the disgusting side effects and hangover- undeniably being a genuine recreational intoxicant. So, while the country turned to the cathinones and there popularity exploded I stupidly sat on the side lines and sulked and missed the whole thing, not believing that anything legal could be any good. It was only when a friend was trying to get rid of his fake ee's (after decent MD crystal became common again) for next to nothing that I accidentality got lucky - I chucked some marquis reagent on them and instead of getting no reaction, usual for the pip blends, that they grabbed my attention - the yellow reaction gave me the impression that they were more than likely left over methylone pills as they had just been banned. They were and while not touching a real e were extremely pleasant and a million miles from the vomit BZP brews and that. I never the pleasure of trying m-cat which has never taken off on the UK black market, due to it remaining so highly desirable along with the fact that most users were coming the standards of pre - ban products which to my knowledge has been extremely rare since.

Being as pathetic as I am, it was the sudden and wide availability of benzodiazepines, beginning with diclazepam, that turned me into a RC enthusiast and although there are many drugs that passed me by (I have never desired synthetic cannabis as a lover of ganj), certain beauts such as 1P - LSD (which I prefer to the real deal) and 3- FPM are now among my DOC's.
 
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