HippieChick
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I wish I had the money to go there. Wish I had money for anything really. Guess I could shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up faster?
I wish I had the money to go there. Wish I had money for anything really. Guess I could shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which fills up faster?
Other European countries are forcing the Dutch to make their pot illegal to foreigners because the surrounding European countries are losing profits from their illegal drug dealings. Their citizens aren't buying their pot so they are forcing the dutch to make it illegal.
The problem is if the open air scene in the Dam isafe the way the open air scene used to be for hard drugs than you will get ripped off with overpriced oure quality crap. Better off staying home which is the intention of the law. CA has no such problem in the dispensaries, from what I've heard for the most part- quality varies. They have amsterdam, we have Oaksterdam and docs and dispensaries are easy to locate in most of the big counties. Plus the hard drugs in Mexico are cheap and decriminalized for small amounts. Kinda like Platzspitz park, Zurich which had a huge tolerated open air market from 86-92'. This led to the evolution of the Swiss Harm Reduction and government subsidized heroin maintenace. Southern California beaches like pacific beach in San Diego are unreal with beautiful people near the pier and canabis is tolerated in OB in general- there are Hostels near the beach in both areas. One used to be like on top or adjacent to a dispensary- but the flip side is the feds like closing them down (docs can you refer you to one thats open, good quality, Holland has Amsterdam, California has Oaksterdam.if this law passes, every single coffee shop will have a dutch guy outside of it with a sign saying 'will buy weed for tourists'.
if this law passes, every single coffee shop will have a dutch guy outside of it with a sign saying 'will buy weed for tourists'.
Holland has years of history and culture. That alone should be reason enough for a trip.
most of the shops are American owned now arent they?
You have to learn the language, which is like running backwards with your shoes two sizes shorter than yours.
"A ruling from the EU's top court could mark the end of the Netherlands' welcoming coffee-shop culture"
'For more than thirty years tourists have flocked to the Netherlands to indulge in a legal high courtesy of the country's famously soft stance on weed. An estimated two million Britons alone visit Amsterdam each year with hundreds of thousands peeling off to sample some of the pungent goods inside one of the city's ubiquitous coffeeshops. Small border cities, meanwhile, can expect as many as three quarters of their regulars to be foreign. Maastricht – a southern offshoot of the Netherlands sandwiched between Belgium and Germany – receives an astonishing 2.1million drug tourists a year.
But the free-wheeling dope days may soon be over for British visitors if the Netherlands' new centre-right coalition government has its way. Following growing complaints over rising crime in the country's border towns – and a string of recent drug-related shootings in the south – the Dutch government has signaled its intention to ban foreigners from buying cannabis altogether.
Tomorrow [THURS], following a request for advise from the Holland's highest court, the European Court of Justice will decide whether such a ban contravenes European law, where free trade rules forbid discriminating against purchasers on grounds of nationality.
Confident of a favourable verdict stating that drugs are not subject to the same rules as legal goods, Justice and Security Minister Ivo Opstelten has already announced a plan to turn the country's 700 coffeehouses into private members clubs, effectively making them out of bounds for foreigners.
Coffeshop owners say they'll fight such moves in the courts and warn that any further attempt to crack down on the legal sale of cannabis will simply force people into the hands of criminals.'
'Banning sales to foreigners, meanwhile, might halt some of the traffic and crime problems in the border towns, but it would also deprive such areas of a major source of revenue in difficult economic times. An independent study in Maastricht commissioned by the coffeshops estimated that “drug tourists” bring in 141m euros a year. “That's the spend outside of the coffeeshops,” says Mr Josemans. “It doesn't even include the money they spend in here.”
Sitting in the office above his coffeeshop, a joint in had, Mr Josemans knows he has a fight on his hands. “Politicians have come at us before, but never like this,” he says. “I just hope they're thinking about the long term future. Not just looking for a quick way to win quick votes”.'
UK Independent
By Jerome Taylor in Maastricht
Wednesday, 15 December 2010
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/no-weed-pass-no-cannabis-dutch-tell-foreigners-2160631.html
they should be grateful guiness is horribleIt's like irish pubs banning foreigners from drinking guiness. Discriminatory.
^ Technically, cannabis isn't legal in The Netherlands either... and the supply to the coffeeshops is in a black zone no different to any black market.