Curiouser and curiouser... But it would fit the main theories about the tan stuff - story always goes that somebody fucked up a load and just sold it on. Then when people went crazy for it nobody could supply it cos nobody knew
how they'd fucked it. I am now officially itching to get a lil peev and have a crack at crackerating it. Either that or I've got scabies or summat cos I'm certainly a-itching. Roll on the new year and the pennies it may bring
Well then.... If you want a further mystery, let me hand you one:
You are probably aware of the rumors floating around the net (some of them posted here on Bluelight), that if you simply dissolve mdpv in water and wait a while it will turn into the tan "perv powder" when you evaporate it. It didn't seem feasible to me, but, in order to leave no stone unturned, I tried every possible combination of heat, light, agitation and oxygen infusion to a fairly large sample of pv hydrochloride (the snow white) in a glass of water, and after 17 months and many hundreds of dissolves and evaporates here is what I have:
It is EXACTLY the same white shitty mdpv. The slight yellowing, I think, is simply dust that seeped in through hundreds of uncoverings and inspections.
BUT--------
By accident I got some of the unconverted (pure mdpv) pv acetate wet once (I only recently - in the past six months, started returning the end product to its salt form. I chose acetate instead of HCL because it's safer to do. I had created a test salt from the pure mdpv oil to use as a comparison to the tan (exactly the same characteristics as white pv)). As it dried I noticed it changing slowly from a pure white to a light tan color. When it completely dried I scaped a segment and turned it over. It was still near white underneath. So something in the air, while wet, changed it into something else:
The color in the photo is not the best, but you can clearly see a much lighter color on the scraping at the top that's been turned over.
I chopped it up, wet it again, dried it and continued for 6 iterations. This is the result:
It looks, and, oddly enough, smells just like the tan. Yet all I did was dissolve the pure mdpv acetate in water for a few iterations.
Now---- I haven't tasted this stuff. Over the past two years I have played with mdpv using ether, tuloene, xylene, baking soda, galacial acetate, vinegar, water, ethanol and dirt from my garden(the bacterial connection). I have precipitated, heated, frozen, incubated, dissolved, evaporated, combined and separated every possible combination of precipitate, solution and oil. In the process I have come up with substances that were less than enjoyable to ingest. I am my only test subject for these experiments. I temporarily blinded myself for three hours after drying and ingesting a brown goo that appeared after five days of incubating an odd gray precipitate after an ether/acetate experiment with pv. I once ended up with a dark brown substance that looked similar to the darker tan pv versions. It gave me an incapacitating headache that lasted 4 days. I had overheated the pv oil during precipitation and created something horrible. I got PV oil on my skin and didn't sleep for 72 hours, during which time hellish visual and auditory hallucinations had me locked in the bathroom where I hid in the bathtub for 30 hours. My first hit of the acetate salt that I created from the tan had me hallucinating again for a few days. I had not considered that the salt version of the tan freebase might have dosages measured in micrograms. I should have guessed from the huge residual slush left over from the Acetic Acid wash. But I didn't. I bumped 3 milligrams. 300 micrograms is a large dose.
What I'm saying is that my body is barely being held together, and what little cohesion is left is the result of vitamins and pure will power. So I just don't have the courage to go down the acetate road. The HCL road has used me up.
But fro anyone just starting out and feeling fresh -- the acetate is dirt simple to make: Throw the pv hcl in water with baking soda. Remove the oil as described (and shown) in the first post of this thread. Pour a liberal amount of glacial Acetic Acid over the oil. It will dissolve completely into a clear liquid. Pour it in a shallow dish and place in front of a fan. When dried, scrape up the powder -- you now have mdpv acetate, which, as shown above, DOES do something profoundly weird when dissolved in water and allowed to evaporate.
Have fun.