Hello and an MDPV Question

Rusted Chains said:
I'm not the only one who thinks that so many references to "it" are rather curious. Your reference to "it" in Megathread5 doesn't say it's shit. That is a fact. Again, just pointing out what I see...not trying to be a dick.

Also, in Megathread5 you said...
"If I leave even the tiniest fraction of oil in the precipitate, then the precipitate will not end up as mdpv when it's processed."

That statement is a little cofusing given the fact that you're not making mdpv. It also doesn't seem to jive with the "quick n dirty" process as described. Assuming that you meant to say the "tan stuff" instead of "mdpv"...still doesn't make sense given the quick and dirty procedure you've outlined here. Need some clarification on that...could you please elaborate on this?
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Meant to say "tan".

If one or more of my posts about "it" didn't include a comment that it was shit, then go look at my other posts, or more simply take this statement, which I'm saying yet again, unequivocally and quite clearly: "Ultimate Sextacy" is shit". And again: "Ultimate Sextacy" is shit". Now let it go.
 
Yeah I don't think this guy is trying to sell us branded highs folks 8)

Stuffmonger ignore it mate, you've posted the most interesting thread in ages here. There's just always some doubt over what sounds "too good to be true". The tan I had was probably a dirty version of yours but by far the best stim I've tried.
 
if he isnt trying to sell the branded shit, why the need to post the pictures of it?
why would anybody spend so much money on "bath salts" when theres no need to do so?
why would anybody with access to a lab like the one in his pictures play around with this shit?

out of scientific interest? i doubt it.

i dont believe stuffmonger, i think hes advertising am-hi-co products.
"theres no thing like bad publicity"


in my opinion people that sell rc´s in fancy packages without telling exactly whats in it are the scum of the drug world.

(not sorry for being offensive)
 
Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I have a few g's tan PV coming in the next few days & am going to try his quick & dirty method on one of them. It might be better tried with normal white PV but worth a shot anyway.

I truly can't imagine if it does work how good it must be cos the tan PV I had before which I did nothing to was my favorite stimulant ever even just sniffing. Chased it was the best high I've ever had by miles & I've chased meth & smoked crack once. The only problem is tollerance shoots up. When it came to only having 70-100mg left I just threw the whole lot on the foil after 3 days on it & the rush after was the best I've ever had! Got loads of runs of it, the only thing is your better putting on 20-50mgs then reload when you've chased it til it's golden at the bottom IMO.

Pity the paranoia/psychosis kicks in after such binges. Didn't feel bad physically other than a little weight loss.

Stuffmongers process sounds worth a bash. I've got a g spare & am limiting myself to 1g of the rest. I'll attempt this with 1g. Report back after I've tried.
 
I don't think for one second Stuffmonger is shilling for any legal high company. Really don't see where the paranoia is even coming from - doesn't make any sense whatsoever to create a thread like this to surreptitiously advertise branded powders. The name of the company in question and the references to the product are far more numerous in the posts of people pointing fingers - does that make y'all shills too? Why not all just stop talking about the other stuff cos it's irrelevant and the only people bringing it up are those making accusations cos I don't see Stuffmonger banging on about anybody's product but his own other than the initial comparison he made and responding to people's accusations.
 
The proof is in the pudding, until more people try it out don't discredit this guy, he's clearly dedicated enough there must be some very worthwhile return!

Stuffmonger with the quick & dirty method what sort of doses would we be talking? I don't have mg scales but I've ordered some today as I suspect it will be lower than the tan I had which 5mg was a good dose. Although me being me I managed to go up in doses pretty rapidly haha!
 
Utilizing a 'tan' powder for this reaction, if it works, would more than likely OVER oxidize the compound (Sorry, working on it being an oxidation), and thus ruin your product.

Secondly, the emmergence of a new multi gram 'tan' vendor seems highly consequential to this.

I don't think stuffmonger is shilling. I think he's sharing something he's found out, or at least I am willing to believe that much until I find solid evidence to the contrary. My questioning, no matter how intense and nitpicking has always been meant to extrapolate as many details as possible to verify through literature searches, etc. and help in real life verification.

So then, anyone here have the foggiest idea of actual lab procedures? No offence, but not even going equimolar amounts on baseing/re-salting is just ludacris, and not helpful in the long run to anyone, because it's uinreproduceable, and un safe.

Once I get some, I'll post a log, but it ain't gonna be for a while.
 
captain codshit said:
The proof is in the pudding, until more people try it out don't discredit this guy, he's clearly dedicated enough there must be some very worthwhile return!

Stuffmonger with the quick & dirty method what sort of doses would we be talking? I don't have mg scales but I've ordered some today as I suspect it will be lower than the tan I had which 5mg was a good dose. Although me being me I managed to go up in doses pretty rapidly haha!
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It depends on a bunch of factors - how much pv hcl is unreacted, how much sodium bicarb is left, how much sodium carbonate is left (sodium carbonate is formed from sodium bicarb as heat is added). Tan is active in much lower doses than pv, so, given the added precipitate, etc. from the quick and dirty approach, I use 5mg as a starting dose. It will be safe. It may not be sufficient. If so you can bump it up a little. If you use a whole bunch of bicarb in the process, there will be a whole bunch left, so higher doses will be needed.
 
That's what I used as a starting dose of the tan I had. But I don't know because it is already tan & insoluable in water will it work? I'll try with 300mg or something first. I'd love to try the Super Tan 1mg dose stuff. I bet on foil that dose would increase though, lol :D
 
I am loving the fact people who have abused peevee gram after gram say it causes no euphoria and that it is shit. That is totally lulzy you fucking drugheadz!

I am so curious to try.
 
They would be lying. It causes lots of euphoria & is amazing. It's just the skatty head after is it's one flaw.
 
Ok, I've never got the impression that Stuffmonger is shilling for anything in this thread or any other that he's posted in that I've read concerning PV. His method works(the quick and dirty), takes a little practice to get the biggest yields. Last weekend I started my experiment with 2 grams of whitish PV. Did two separate processes with a gram in each experiment. The first gram I only ended up with .38 of gram left that was tannish after 48hours. I knew that the low yield was due to the fact this was the first time doing it and I most probably heated to high and too much as the PV was of excellent quality to start with. What was left after finishing the process was hands down so much better than the starting material that I was blown away. PV hits me sexually period but this stuff is so far beyond being horny that its hard to describe, you just have to do it yourself. I had no vasoconstriction problems that I get on regular PV(if I've done a little more than I should), no shakiness. Now I did see no big difference in being able to sleep easier but that maybe due to just how this stuff effects me personally, but with 1,4BDO it wasn't a problem.

The second batch which I started a day after starting the first went much better. I was much more careful on the heating part and just having done it once already, I just felt more confident in what I was doing. I ended up with .71 grams left after 48 hours and a really nice darker tan color. I shared that Thursday night with female friend and her two roomates, also females, and without being graphic, lets just say we spent the night pulling up different videos on pornhub.com and recreating them live. Truly amazing stuff.

Its real, don't know exactly what is changed in the processing of regular PV to this Super Tan but its worth the time and effort to do it and you'll only get better at the process every time you do it.

Thanks StuffMonger, you made an already enjoyable chemical into something that is truly fucking amazing. Good job man.
 
Hey,I just realized that I don`t have any distilled water on hand. Do I really need it or can I just use tap water for the quick and dirty method?
Will plain old US of A tap water screw with the process?
Thanks!
 
Congrats on your success. We desperately need the details though...like how much water, pv and baking soda were used in your batches? This is critical since the amount of water will affect PH. Please, do tell.
 
Rusted Chains said:
Congrats on your success. We desperately need the details though...like how much water, pv and baking soda were used in your batches? This is critical since the amount of water will affect PH. Please, do tell.
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Well each batch contained 1g of PV. I used 1.5 cups of water each time. The first batch I used 0.5g of baking soda, the second batch I used 0.75g of baking soda. This is where I hope StuffMonger chimes in with his thoughts on the amounts used in each process.
 
SDBF said:
Well each batch contained 1g of PV. I used 1.5 cups of water each time. The first batch I used 0.5g of baking soda, the second batch I used 0.75g of baking soda. This is where I hope StuffMonger chimes in with his thoughts on the amounts used in each process.
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This interests me greatly. Can you give any information on your method of heating it? Any idea on how long/what temperature or do you just go for a certain color?
 
Did you end up using distilled or tap water,SDBF? So you got a better yield with 3/4 the amount of baking soda compared to the mdpv? I plan on starting out with 100mgs of mdpv and 75 mgs of baking soda in a half cup of water. How do those proportions sound?
 
grimsolem said:
This interests me greatly. Can you give any information on your method of heating it? Any idea on how long/what temperature or do you just go for a certain color?
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I used his method of a tall glass in a small pan of water inside another slighter larger pan of water on an electric stove. The first batch I started it off on medium high heat, which I think was too hot and didn't take it off soon enough when it started to bubble. This is just inexperience.

Second batch I started the stove on slightly less than medium heat and slightly increased it over a 3 to 5 minute period up to medium high and took the glass out as soon as it started bubbling. Turned it down to medium, shook the glass up a little and repeated one more time.

One little thing, I used nitrile gloves during all of this as I heed the warning of not letting the oil touch your skin and used a cheap respirator so as not to breath in anything harmful.
 
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