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The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Three

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So i'm gonna be dosing some of this on the tail end of the peak from 2 hits of good L and i don't want to overdo it. Would 10mg be sufficient? I just want enough to keep the trip going at the same level as before.
 
i was going to do 19mg but after my 9, i dont know anymore.. i must say that the visuals were more closed eye for me.. the part where i felt my body ripping was a bit much, let alone the shakes.. now, i did drink some beers that day, i wonder if that had something to do with my crazy experience.
 
"i was going to do 19mg but after my 9, i dont know anymore.. i must say that the visuals were more closed eye for me.. the part where i felt my body ripping was a bit much, let alone the shakes.. now, i did drink some beers that day, i wonder if that had something to do with my crazy experience. "

Most likely reduced the intensity of it. (the beers)
 
^I've read other reports of alcohol mixing badly with 4-ACO compounds. You should try it without alcohol next time.
 
SONN said:
^I've read other reports of alcohol mixing badly with 4-ACO compounds. You should try it without alcohol next time.
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I almost fear doing it again.. i mean after all , the part where it felt like my face/body was being pulled apart with the visuals was scary//
 
is it possible you could have received more than 9mg ? I have had a similar experience on salvia where i felt a lot of physical pain and like my muscles/skin was being pulled but never on shrooms.
 
BruceLeeSwag said:
is it possible you could have received more than 9mg ? I have had a similar experience on salvia where i felt a lot of physical pain and like my muscles/skin was being pulled but never on shrooms.
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well my buddy took the same dose and he was fine.. he did say he forgot most of it.. i did think i took to much and i was going to OD.. however my scale had brand new batteries.. but your right it could have been more, but i am doubtful that i weighed it wrong.
 
Going to be trying some of this in the next week. Going by Erowid 25mg+ is a strong dose. I'm not too experienced with mushrooms, particular in higher doses, but have always enjoyed them and preferred them to LSD (the psychedelic I take the most). When taking acid I tend to take about 150-200ug, in most cases that takes a few blotter to get to but isn't a massive heroic dose. It's hard to scale psychedelics as they all vary but I've also had great experiences in the past year on 10mg (or so) doses of 2C-E sniffed and at least 500ug of 25C-NBOME insufflated.

What sort've dose do people feel I should go for? I'm considering trying 25mg will that have me right in the deep end with ego death? Also is sniffing it a good route of dosing? I do get nausea on psychedelics - for example 2C-E makes me throw up everywhere if I sniff it. But I quite like the faster comeup and the lower dosage.

Opinions?
 
SpecialK_ said:
Going to be trying some of this in the next week. Going by Erowid 25mg+ is a strong dose. I'm not too experienced with mushrooms, particular in higher doses, but have always enjoyed them and preferred them to LSD (the psychedelic I take the most). When taking acid I tend to take about 150-200ug, in most cases that takes a few blotter to get to but isn't a massive heroic dose. It's hard to scale psychedelics as they all vary but I've also had great experiences in the past year on 10mg (or so) doses of 2C-E sniffed and at least 500ug of 25C-NBOME insufflated.

What sort've dose do people feel I should go for? I'm considering trying 25mg will that have me right in the deep end with ego death? Also is sniffing it a good route of dosing? I do get nausea on psychedelics - for example 2C-E makes me throw up everywhere if I sniff it. But I quite like the faster comeup and the lower dosage.

Opinions?
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I took 4 hits of good acid once and i was fine, i took 9mg of 4-aco-dmt and i was losing my hold on reality.. you know how sounds are funny and weird on these things, well 4-aco-dmt made it very freaky and scary in a weird but good way.. i took my dose orally..
 
SpecialK_ said:
Going to be trying some of this in the next week. Going by Erowid 25mg+ is a strong dose. I'm not too experienced with mushrooms, particular in higher doses, but have always enjoyed them and preferred them to LSD (the psychedelic I take the most). When taking acid I tend to take about 150-200ug, in most cases that takes a few blotter to get to but isn't a massive heroic dose. It's hard to scale psychedelics as they all vary but I've also had great experiences in the past year on 10mg (or so) doses of 2C-E sniffed and at least 500ug of 25C-NBOME insufflated.

What sort've dose do people feel I should go for? I'm considering trying 25mg will that have me right in the deep end with ego death? Also is sniffing it a good route of dosing? I do get nausea on psychedelics - for example 2C-E makes me throw up everywhere if I sniff it. But I quite like the faster comeup and the lower dosage.

Opinions?
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If its the hcl, i find 20mg without a tolerance is pretty strong for me. But i weigh 130lbs so that could be a factor as well. 25mg of the fumarate gets me to where 20mg hcl does. I haven't gone higher than that. If you have freebase i'd say 16mg is equal to 20mg of the hcl. Snorting it will definitely be more potent and faster hitting, i personally don't like it due to the intensity at which it can hit. Same with plugging. I plugged 12mg of the hcl once, and haven't tried to plug 4-aco again after that. It was almost like if you were smoking dmt, but stretched out the time it took to hit by about 5-10x (about 5 minutes). The visuals were fairly intense, ego was shattered, and i learned a lesson. Still far to fast, with far to high a dose to be remotely comfortable to me.

Nausea ain't too bad with 4-aco, at least much less than mushrooms i find.

I say shoot for a medium dose the first time, assuming you have no cross tolerance. at my weight that would be about 15mg of the fumarate on a semi empty stomach.

The come up on this compound can be a bit anxious, after your through that its smooth sailing most of the time i find. With a high dose, it might be a bit difficult for someone trying it for the first time w/out a good amount of experience with mushrooms. I will say it feels a bit smoother than mushrooms in that regard though, the comeup on shrooms feels more abrasive than with 4-aco. I remember reading somewhere that it might be caused by 4-po being metabolized into psilocin faster than 4-aco, and since 4-po can't cross the BBB it has to convert. But since 4-aco can to a degree, but gets converted to 4-ho slower, it comes on smoother and lasts longer with qualitative differences since some of the 4-aco does get to the brain before being metabolized into psilocin. Could be the 4-ho/4-po-nmt in mushrooms that cause differences in effects as well.

If you have experience with med-high doses of dmt, i would say be prepared for something similar to that if you snort a strong dose of 4-aco, stretched out a bit as you come up. In other words, be prepared, it can get intense very fast.
 
projump2001 said:
I took 4 hits of good acid once and i was fine, i took 9mg of 4-aco-dmt and i was losing my hold on reality.. you know how sounds are funny and weird on these things, well 4-aco-dmt made it very freaky and scary in a weird but good way.. i took my dose orally..
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Is your batch one of the newer brown gooey ones?

have you had it tested or know the purity of it?
 
^just got a new batch in from a retailer ive never used before

no real complaints but its real dark brown

its still clumps of powder, but the color is so dark

every time i have gotten its been off white powder
 
Heard this stuff can be hard to sniff due to it absorbing moisture. Anyone any tips? Is sublinguial also a good option or just a similar bio availability to oral?

Thanks for the responses so far, much appreciated. :)
 
SpecialK_ said:
Heard this stuff can be hard to sniff due to it absorbing moisture. Anyone any tips? Is sublinguial also a good option or just a similar bio availability to oral?

Thanks for the responses so far, much appreciated. :)
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Oral is the way to go:)
 
Is it just better all round? I don't have much of this so wanted to get the most out of it by sniffing. But people here seem to think otherwise. Does the bio availability vary much?
 
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