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RCs (3-FA) 3-fluoro-amphetamine Megathread

So I tried it for the first time yesterday.. 2x100mg bombs. I was very surprised by the effects, it seems to be by far the strongest stim I tried, not really euphoric but the energy was crazy. Also very empathic.

However. It is also the most destructive stim the next day. I literally feel like I have flu, body temp=38.2deg C, my arms are very very weak (surprisingly no vasoconstriction though) and I have runny nose although I did not snort this time. And I still couldn't fall asleep although I'm in zombie state, now being awake for about 40 hours, damn. Last dose was taken 22 hours ago wow.

Sure I would feel much better if I stayed with just 100mg but then the effects wouldn't be all that strong.

Don't know if I should take something to help me sleep, I could smoke some weed but then again my heart is still speeded up so not that great idea probably.

Not worth it.
 
Possibly about to acquire some of this for the first time and can't wait! Been curious about it forever now. Will report back w/ my findings after I give it a go!
 
please do!

I am looking forward to playing with the various floro-subbed amphetamines soon :)
 
There garbage.......I liked 4-FA it was pretty good but Why would someone waste there time and not just get street meth its probably just as damaging and safer
 
not just get street meth its probably just as damaging and safer
How so? What is your basic reasoning?

3-FA: (subjective) essentially as euphoric as meth-amp with less jitters and clenching. The alertness aspect wears off not long after the euphoria, instead of hours of up time after the real high as with meth. Quite potent by weight. Basically, smoother sailing, less crash (depending on amount used and redosed of course, as with any amps), and shorter duration. I can't put a solid mark on the full duration because I redosed throughout, but seems like 4/5 or so the duration of dex-amp. With no tolerance, even light doses will most likely blow you out of the water, not meth blown out, but close. I think it has some natural built in anti-abuse potential to it, unlike meth which you do keep wanting more and more and more and don't keep track of your dosing or care.

It's like "smart meth-lite" or something. Will report back on a follow up, as I'm still buzzing and basically comming down. Crash upon redose run is almost non-existant.

-edit: lol right.. The alertness didn't wear off easily for just as long as dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine). Feels like an ampy next day MDMA-esque hangover.
 
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What was your dosage and ROA? I have been reading this is a straight stim with no euphoria but you state there is euphoria?
 
Any ROA you want to use if it's HCL... not sure about vaporizing, but I would THINK it's stable enough.

I like to insuffulate it. Will try oral next time to see if that eliminates some tension. All in all, quite a worthy stem with lots of euphoria.
 
I finally got round to trying my 3FA sample last weekend.

I bombed 200 mg in a rizla. Effects came on in about 30 minutes. Very nice tingling to the head. Strong feeling of stimulation with no scattering of thoughts & no paranoia. Moderate feelings of wellbeing. Became conscious of my heart beat for a few seconds during the come up, and for a few seconds during the high, but seemed very easy on the body in the main.

I was planning to see how the substance affected music appreciation, but once i switched the computer and connected to the internet the need for a lamb shank overpowered everything else lol. Focus on this activity was intense, and appreciation of materials was approaching mephedrone levels. 3 hours later i had finished and the high had worn off. Could not get into music afterwards.

This suits me better than 4FA as its not as serotoneric (or whatever the word is) and the 4FA didnt seem to agree with me possibly because im on SSRIs.

Bad sides of 3FA for me were it left a foul taste in my mouth, everything tasted awful afterwards - even water & cigarettes !!

Overall though I like this stuff and want to get some more, and try some music with it next time.

Back on the 3FA this weekend. I'm pleased to discover it works very well for enhancing enjoyment of music. Plus it has very good sexual properties.

This substance is very good. Its the only thing I've found that comes close to pre-ban mephedrone in its effects on the 2 things mentioned above, but it doesnt seem to have the same effect on confidence/ego.

Totally kills any chance of eating food though. Was bingeing right through from tea time on Friday until about 1am Sunday morning. Didnt eat a thing all day Saturday so was a bit fucked in that regard.
 
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thank you for that post! I use 4FA often and I always wondered what 3FA would be like- certain stims do a better job of increasing sex drive, and I love exploring those avenues, so I might give it a try!
 
I find it interesting that some people have found this chem "emphatic".
 
Made in China= Likely contaminated or poorly made. You can buy anything online from china, but do you really want to take it? lol Go get some Dexies or something, probably is better anyways. I know you're going do them anyways, so dose carefully please! Don't assume you're actually getting what you asked for either, you could order 3-FA and get Mephedrone or Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) etc. Always start off with low dose. Maybe have a friend around incase you screw up. I'd personally keep a dozen benzos around for when I experimented with anything stimulating.

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thank you for that post! I use 4FA often and I always wondered what 3FA would be like- certain stims do a better job of increasing sex drive, and I love exploring those avenues, so I might give it a try!

Amphetamines make me blow my load in 3 seconds flat. I've had low T from opioid use, and take testosterone, methadone, benzos etc, and recently started taking Amphetamine again to fight fatigue due to an illness I have, and I swear to god, I now have premature ejaculation, when before I could just pop some cialis and screw for hours with no orgasm. I'm afraid what's going to happen the next time I have sex. Somehow I think an erection won't be the problem.

Amphetamines used to make it hard for me to get off, but for some reason at this age, it's like instant orgasm. Strange...
 
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I have 62mg. is that enough orally? I was going to top it off with 4-fa (maybe 40mg of 4-fa). has anyone tried this combo? is 62mg enough to be good for an afternoon? looking for something somewhat strong. higher than a study dose, lol.
 
I'd say yes, from my experience 3-fa is much stronger than 4- at the same dose. With another 40 of 4 it should feel like 150 of 4- alone.
 
I'm wondering whether this is really worth the effort if you can get ahold of good dexamphetamine. At higher doses I found that quite enjoyable as well, is 3-FA much different in feeling from a higher dose of dexamph?

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Well, after having tried it tonight I'm still unsure about it. Insufflated 30mg twice with a 2h interval. The effects most present were an increased need to socialize and just your average amphetamine-like effects like energy and the likes. No real euphoria to speak of at this level of dosing.

Insufflated around 60mg of o-desmethyltramadol in the afternoon, which might have done it's part in diminishing the effects. Though I am not overly impressed I would still say it is still worth its own if racemic amphetamine/dexamphetamine isn't available.

Next time I'll be sure to have no remnants of other substances in my system and see what it does for me then. Overall a worthwhile stim.
 
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Anyone else find that there is little to no physical stimulation with 3-FA?

In fact, aside from becoming quite talkative, the only thing noticed was a very pleasant physical relaxation which meant that getting out of the chair was undesirable.
 
Well, I take back what I said. This is a fine fine stim. Very easy going, doesn't get you tweaked out hardcore. To me it feels like a more relaxed and fun dexamphetamine. It doesn't feel anywhere as dirty as racemic amphetamine. I agree with Halif, it doesn't get me doing stuff, it just makes me enjoy the things I am doing all the more. And no real comedown for as far as I have noticed.
 
I can only say that 3 of my friends who used to do meth really like 3-FA, they find it really euphoric and quite long lasting. I might consider giving it one more chance myself in few weeks, sounds like bad luck/setting when I tried it myself because they all find it quite easy on the body. Just thought I'd share, there are very few reports compared to 4-FA but it shouldn't be a bad stim.
 
If it actually increases dopamine concentrations as much as I've read(in rats: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/471983-3-Fluoroamphetamine?p=7727078&viewfull=1#post7727078 ):

[...] 3-Fluoroamphetamine can elevate basal levels of dopamine roughly three times higher times compared to amphetamine at the same mg/kg dosage in Squirrel Monkeys. That's over 1500% or 15-fold. The levels drop quickly after administration but always remain at least two-fold above the amount produced by amphetamine.

( http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/471983-3-Fluoroamphetamine?p=7728265&viewfull=1#post7728265)
I'm pretty sure it is [a higher basal dopamine elevation than methamp], but I don't have a source to back it up at the moment. I believe it's around 1200% for meth and 400% for cocaine. It doesn't include norepinephrine levels as well, which is problematic because if they're even higher the abuse potential might be diminished.[...]

then extrapolating from my relatively strong knowledge on drugs/brain/neuroscience/pharmacology compared to an average person... I must mention my knowledge is no where near a professional level(all self learned, I don't want to do any drug with any regularity before I know it's main..preferably most of it's important interactions in the brain, which requires learning much about the brain which I was already interested in hehe).. anyway
if it does indeed raise dopamine levels that much then I'm just going to post a warning that it might be decently more neurotoxic than regular amphetamine. Stay safe with these new chemicals, especially 3-fa which has the fewest reports(and therefore has less semi-established safety of them all). It is also an amphetamine analog, of which we don't know what putting a flouro group at pos 3 does at all, afaik.(except norfenfluramine, which has quite a different substitute @ pos 3, yet it was a potent 5ht2b agonist(will enlarge your heart valves(or something like that), that is a very bad thing) just as an example of how a substitution can change a drugs pharmacology dramatically from it's original effects on the brain and we have no idea what many of these flouro subs change besides the na:de:serotonin ratio.

I've tried 3-fa once(@ 30mg max, not going to try again for a long time, very least 2 months) and it felt less dopaminageric than methylone, so there is that, however I didn't even know what dose to take really as there isn't even that much information on dosage.... so possibly at higher doses(idk what doses people are using on average, I've just seen 4-6 reports of dosage, all quite different) it is much more dopaminageric than metheylone(it was pretty close @ 30mg to like 140-160mg methylone, where 180mg methylone for me has this strong, overt, smooth, liquidyish dopamine feel. in comparison with mdma or d-amp..)

So I'm just rambling really, but be careful with something that definitely appears to raise dopamine levels a lot especially something that could and probably does have other pharmacological actions differing from straight amphetamine. Considering it's pretty accepted that dopamine is broken down into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetic_acid which then "can be oxidized by hydrogen peroxide, leading to the formation of toxic metabolites which destroy dopamine storage vesicles in the substantia nigra.[wiki]"
 
Well those 3 people (not exactly good friends, just people Ive known for some time) all took 50-100mg in single dose.. and redosed few times and now say the comedown is REALLY harsh from such doses, insomnia just like from meth and even stronger heartbeat. The hearbeat seems to be deceitful from 3-FA because unlike many other stims it only seems to considerably increase on the comedown, as long as you're high you don't know how bad it will be.
 
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