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    i know hydroxyzine potentiates opiates but i also know tramadol isnt a "true" opiate so i was wondering if the potentiation would apply to them as well

    thanks for any help
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    Yes it does potentiate Tramadol too.
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    ok so what would be a good dose to potentiate say 250 mg of tramadol?
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    hydroxyzine isn't strong in that sence and 250mg of Tramadol isn't a large dose so maybe start with 50mg hydroxyzine.
    I dont know which strength of hydroxyzine pills you have, i have the 25mg ones.
    It will not potentiate like bensos do cause alone hydroxyzine is quite weak.
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    i have the 25mg ones and havent taken any tramadol in at least 2 weeks, and i eat at least 1 grapefruit everyday (i love them lol) but am on my 3rd right now. i know the bioavailability increases with eah dose and have quite a bit of experience with them, im simply trying to add all i can to the experience because 250 mgs usually gets me feelin pretty good just not quite where i want to be and im runnin a little low right now

    thanks for the help tho i think i can figure it out from here
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    when i'm potentiating opiates with ydroxyzine i usually take 200-300mg... any more and you get a stomache ache... but at those doses it potentiates well... but start at 100mg and see how that does it for you

    remember to take your ydroxyzine half an hour before the opiate in question...
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    ok something interesting has happened. i took 50 mg tramadol to start with and was actually feeling a little something. sometime later i took another 50 and took 300 mg hydroxyzine. took one more tramadol a little later and just took my last 2. i can no longer feel the usual "head" high from it and i have no tolerance anymore

    im kinda pissed im basicly sober right now and have no idea why. i dont even feel the little bit from the first one. it happened suddenly

    also i dont know if this matters but i chew my tramadol as i do with all pills, and i emptied the hydroxyzine capsules when i took em
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    i don't get any high from tram either...
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    Instead of re-dosing periodically with the Tramadol, you would have gotten a better "buzz" had you taken the hydroxyzine, then 40 minutes later took all of the Tramadol at once, for maximum efficiency.
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    Sorry to bump this thread but it is my belief that it is important to mention the following. Hydroxyzine (Atarax) will knock almost anyone out at a small dose of 50mgs if the user doesn't have a tolerance. I myself use this medication to knock myself out and when used every other day it works effectively.

    I am mentioning this as I was searching for tramadol threads and found this advice. Anyone without a tolerance to hydroxyzine who reads this will simply fall asleep. Tolerance does raise raplidly, in the order of twice the amount needed for every using day that goes by. Those saying to start with 50-100 mgs are those who have built tolerance and can use these amounts without experiencing extreme somnolence.

    Take care.
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    I was prescribed Atarax/hydroxine for insomnia a few months back. 50 mgs didn't touch it, 100mgs was barely noticeable. I beleve it acts on the same gabba receptors. The Dr that prescribed it to me said it as a great anxiety med and when he worked the Er late nights when someone got out hand he'd stick them with hydrox. I find that kinda hard to believe though, I'm sure a shot lorazepam would be the first go to drug if someone happens to go ape shit.
    Tramadol is weaker than aspirin IMHO. Apprarently I'm lucky I don't posses the proper enyzme to break it down properly. From what I have read it sounds like taking codienew/an ssri. With the wicked wds that come with it, umm yeah. I'd be dead if I could go online and buy my drug of choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sid3 View Post
    I was prescribed Atarax/hydroxine for insomnia a few months back. 50 mgs didn't touch it, 100mgs was barely noticeable. I beleve it acts on the same gabba receptors. The Dr that prescribed it to me said it as a great anxiety med and when he worked the Er late nights when someone got out hand he'd stick them with hydrox. I find that kinda hard to believe though, I'm sure a shot lorazepam would be the first go to drug if someone happens to go ape shit.
    Tramadol is weaker than aspirin IMHO. Apprarently I'm lucky I don't posses the proper enyzme to break it down properly. From what I have read it sounds like taking codienew/an ssri. With the wicked wds that come with it, umm yeah. I'd be dead if I could go online and buy my drug of choice.
    You could not be more wrong.

    Atarax does not involve the GABA system at all.

    Tramadol is not weaker than aspirin.

    Hydroxyzine is a good medication for those with mild insomnia and has an effect similar to dyphenhydramine. If you are experiencing hardcore insomnia, hydroxyzine will not be of use. Doctors love to hand out precription of it because it works for transient or mild insomnia and does not have the abuse potential of benzos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Toro View Post
    You could not be more wrong.
    I can always be more wrong.

    Atarax does not involve the GABA system at all.
    That could very well be, I may have be thinking same part of the brain, the part that effects sedation kinda like benzos do at certain doses. I am going to track down the benzo detox site that gave me the wrong information
    Tramadol is not weaker than aspirin.
    For me, yes it is. Unless you were me how would you know that regardless of how many I would take, they did nothing? I think you'll find a lot of people do not feel anything when taking trams. Consider yourself lucky if you enjoy them.

    Hydroxyzine is a good medication for those with mild insomnia and has an effect similar to dyphenhydramine. If you are experiencing hardcore insomnia, hydroxyzine will not be of use. Doctors love to hand out precription of it because it works for transient or mild insomnia and does not have the abuse potential of benzos.
    Yep, your spot on. In fact, the Dr's exact words I'm going to load you up with plenty of refills as there is no risk of dependence.
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    I've got a tolerence to hydroxyzien and I've been using only 25mg per 50mg tramadol. Took 75mg hydroxyzien with 150mg tramadol 2 days ago and I've been delirious since. Been bouncing from stimulation to nausia to delirium. Can't sleep and itching like fuck.
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    Yeah tramadol is more a head buzz for me especially with 150mg of hydroxadine/green pills 30mins before because I have a very quick metabolism
    It will work well together just try add a little benzodiazepine in the mix if you can, I only get 5mg diazepam with my atarax 25mg and on tramadol with stab wounds to the leg but all in all great mix
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    This is one of my favorite mixes, almost better than oxy, almost. But i always took 1 25 mgs with my 200 mgs of tram but 50 would probably be more fun. Also u said u took trams and waited to take more? Just take all 4 of the tramidol and hydroxine with it for a fun night. I personally love how the hydroxine increases my nods.
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    Dude I had no idea hydroxizine potentials opiates. That's crazy, I have a whole bottle of that stuff. Thanks for the thread and info peeps. ✌🏻😎
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    I had no idea either. Have a whole bottle as well. Hopefully this will make my Tramadol last longer 😊
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    I don't have tramadol but I'm about to dose my Dilaudid in 45 min. I have 25mg hydroxizine and usually don't like taking more than 50 cause it makes me sleepy but what would be a good dose to potentiate my Dilaudid. 100mg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by closeau View Post
    I don't have tramadol but I'm about to dose my Dilaudid in 45 min. I have 25mg hydroxizine and usually don't like taking more than 50 cause it makes me sleepy but what would be a good dose to potentiate my Dilaudid. 100mg?
    100 mg might make u feel the hydroxine too much and ull feel weird from the hypnotic effects i personally wouldnt go over 50
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    You were right justtakethat. I had double vision for hrs cause that much hydroxizine. I'm sticking to my 50 st night. I can take 50 X 3 day but it makes me too sleepy but does work well with Kolonopin to keep my beastly anxiety down. Good call
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    Quote Originally Posted by closeau View Post
    You were right justtakethat. I had double vision for hrs cause that much hydroxizine. I'm sticking to my 50 st night. I can take 50 X 3 day but it makes me too sleepy but does work well with Kolonopin to keep my beastly anxiety down. Good call
    Dam double vision is the worst
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    Yes it is. Couldn't type or watch tv or play guitar. Just sat here listening to music. I find 50 works well taken 30 min before Dilaudid does boost it a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by closeau View Post
    Yes it is. Couldn't type or watch tv or play guitar. Just sat here listening to music. I find 50 works well taken 30 min before Dilaudid does boost it a bit.
    Does it make it so you nod more too?
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    I talked my psychiatrist into prescribing me a 100x25mg today. I wonder if it really works as well with tramadol as it does with other opiates, since tramadol needs to be o-desmethylated by CYP2D6 which Hydroxizine supposedly inhibits.

    Quote Originally Posted by closeau View Post
    Yes it is. Couldn't type or watch tv or play guitar. Just sat here listening to music. I find 50 works well taken 30 min before Dilaudid does boost it a bit.
    lol just close one eye. I got one of them pirate things.
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