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And what is this lope I keep seeing in these threads to help w w\ds?
i am currently addicted to "blues" which are roxycodone or oxycodone, which i'm sure you are aware of. Do you recommend Kratom for help with my plight? TYIAMOD NOTE: We are not here to help anyone find kratom vendors, so don't ask about it. It is against the Bluelight User Agreement to solicit drugs over Bluelight, even if they're legal in your area.
Hi guys,
I've been on methadone for over 10 years and recently made a switch to kratom. I still can't believe how easy it was until now (considering I've been struggling with my methadone tapper for months now).
I've been on kratom for 10 days now and I feel quite normal (for most of the time). I've started with 5g of Enhanced Bali 4 times daily, then reduced progressively to 3g, 3 times daily. My methadone dose before the switch was 5mg.
Now, kratom still contains mu receptor agonists, therefore I am expecting some withdrawals to be present when I stop it. I am starting to wonder - how long should I continue using kratom in order to minimize both the wds from methadone and those from the leaves ?
Dude -- I am totally with you. I snort roxycodone (blue pills). I have not yet graduated to needle, but want to end the madness nonetheless. I am just plain tired of it. And yes, the W/D are excruciating. I vomit, piss out of my asshole, and feel like I want to snuff it. I have fucked myself financially which when I think about it, that alone makes me want to snuff it. Any advice or helpful, kind words would be most helpful. Thank you in advance.Hi. I have a pretty big heroin problem and I'm sick of it. I'm tired of spending all my money, tired of feeling like shit, and tired of being a waste. I've tried many times to quit but I just can't take the w/ds. I've recently bought a few kinds of kratom to give it a shot. I got meang da, red vein, and green. My first time so I thought I would experiment alil. Upon reading these posts I fear this may not be strong enough. None of the following is a lie because really want to get off and any input/advice would be great. I don't shoot I snort but I use anywhere from a brick (50 bags) to 80 bags a day. I've seen ppl post about 10x, 15x, and extracts. What would be best for me to try? I'll keep my other kinds of kratom to try n taper off. Money is not an object so any kinds, anything expensive or not please share. Thank u
There's really nothing to 'heal'. Your endogenous opioid system isn't broken, or hurt. Upregulation- you use opioids, the body produces more receptors, you stop using, your body reacts to those empty receptors, downregulation.
In effect you're switching from a long acting opioid to a short acting opioid, which is often necessary for many people doing a Methadone or Buprenorphine taper.
The problem with using Kratom in this manner is the lack of a standardized dose. A few papers on Methadone maintanence say it takes up to 9 days of abstinence for Methadone to clear the body of a moderate to high dose MMT patient to the point where they will pass a urinalysis for Methadone.
Using a short acting opioid longer than this (more or less) can hurt your attempt at abtstinence more than helping. The most you can hope for by switching to a short acting opioid after Methadone before jumping off opioids completely is to ease yourself into acute withdrawal. The withdrawal syndrome won't be as long as a standard Methadone withdrawal (20-30 days), but won't be as intense as that of a short acting opioid. Thats the general idea- this ought to maximize your comfort level when you do kick.
MOD NOTE: We are not here to help anyone find kratom vendors, so don't ask about it. It is against the Bluelight User Agreement to solicit drugs over Bluelight, even if they're legal in your area.
Hi guys,
I've been on methadone for over 10 years and recently made a switch to kratom. I still can't believe how easy it was until now (considering I've been struggling with my methadone tapper for months now).
I've been on kratom for 10 days now and I feel quite normal (for most of the time). I've started with 5g of Enhanced Bali 4 times daily, then reduced progressively to 3g, 3 times daily. My methadone dose before the switch was 5mg.
Now, kratom still contains mu receptor agonists, therefore I am expecting some withdrawals to be present when I stop it. I am starting to wonder - how long should I continue using kratom in order to minimize both the wds from methadone and those from the leaves ?
I wonder if taking a therapeutic dose of a benzo and some Loperamide in addition to the Kratom you are taking now would eliminate most all of the withdrawal symptoms you're having?
It does. I'm on day 8 of kratom therapy for suboxone WD I also take a qtr of a X bar every so often to ease the discomfort. Kratom is a Godsend. It's truly amazing and almost too good to be true.
I took pills for about 5 years. Hydrocodone and Oxy. I never took massive amounts at a time. I'd take 30mg total per day spread out like 5mg every 2-3 hours throughout the day. For me, it gave me motivation and focus and energy. Similar to Adderall, which I take legally via prescription, except the opiates were somehow better at it.
So, my addiction was fairly low doses but over a lengthy period.
I finally quit 2 weeks ago and have no interest in taking them again. They are getting increasingly difficult to obtain, not good for my health, and even though I was happy and motivated in my own world I was less involved in the world around me. I wasn't mean to my wife or kids but I sort of became introverted.
The acute withdrawals are over for the most part. The only lingering physical symptoms I have are occasionally leg cramps and sleeping is rough.
My major issue is I have a lack of energy and motivation. I'm not a total vegetable. I'm up, moving around and slowly starting to enjoy things like movies and video games again but, it comes and goes. I'm most concerned about my work. I'm a graphic designer that works from home and due to the withdrawals and this slump I'm in, I am falling behind in my work.
So I am wondering if Kratom could be an option for me. Some strain that would give me a little motivation just to sit at the computer and work a little.
I know nothing about Kratom except there are strains for this and that.
I need motivation. My adderall gives me energy but I'm still unmotivated. If that makes any sense.
Preferably, if Kratom is an option, I would prefer to take as little as possible. My stomach couldn't handle mounds of plant material being put in.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks for reading this lengthy post and taking the time to help if you can.
I am finally free and clear of morphine!!!
It took a solid 8 days to feel normal. Granted I only 'tapered' for 3 days so it was rough but now I feel amazing
I was a bit depressed so my Dr gave me Zoloft but I only took one dose because I do not want another medication to become addicted to. So, I went out and got some legal HGH. It has 200mg of Mucuna Pruriens which is 15% L-Dopa. Yes Dopamine! The decrease in dopamine in the brain after quitting opioids is the main reason for the dreaded depression. Only been on it for 2 days and I have zero depression.
Hope this helps someone else!