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Psychoactive Animals

Teotzlcoatl

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Below is a list of animals which are psychoactive when ingested by humans (instead of animals which use psychoactives themselves).


{Zoological Intoxicants & Medicines} ~ Psychoactive/Medicinal Animals & Insects-


{Zoological Intoxicants & Medicines} ~ Psychoactive/Medicinal Animals & Insects-




Amphibians & Reptiles-

Bufo alvarius ~ “Colorado River Toad” or “Sonoran Desert Toad”
Bufo marinus ~ "Cane Toad"
Epipedobates tricolor ~ "Phantasmal Poison Frog"
Hyla species ~ "Tree Frog"
Leptodactylus species ~ "Ditch Frogs"
Naja naja ~ "Indian Cobra"
Ophiophagus hannah ~ "King Cobra"
Phyllomedusa bicolor ~ “Sapo Frog” or “Giant Monkey Frog“ (“Kambo”)
Rana species ~ "Common Frog" or “Pond Frog” (True Frogs)
Rana temporaria ~ “European Common Brown Frog”
Salamandra salamandra ~ "Fire Salamander"



Marine Life-

Abudefduf septemfasciatus ~ "Sergeant Magor"
Epinephelus corallicola ~ "Grouperfish"
Kyphosus cinerascens ~ "Bluefish"
Kyphosus fuscus ~ "Dream Fish”
Kyphosus vaigiensis ~ "Brass Breamfish"
Mugil cephalus ~ "Flathead mullet"
Mulloidichtys samoensis ~ "Golden Goatfish
Neomyxus chaptali ~ "Mullet Fish"
Saganus oramin ~ "Rabbitfish"
Sarpa Salpa ~ ""Salema Porgy"
Upeneus arge ~ "Goatfish"
Urolophus jamaicensis ~ "Yellow Stingray"




Insects-

Apis mellifera ~ "Honey Bee"
Cantharis vesicatoria ~ "Spanish Fly"
Floria species ~ "Coca Larvae”
Myelobia smerintha ~ "Bicho De Tacuara" (Bamboo-Worm)
Phoneutria nigriventer ~ "Brazilian Wandering Spider"
Pogonomyrmex californicus ~ "Red Harvester Ant"


Other Animals (Other Organic Non-Botanical Psychoactives/Medicinals)-

Aztec Psychoactive Bird ~ "Oconenetl"
Giraffe ~ "Umm Nyolokh" (Liver and Bone)





Some interesting notes about Psychoactive Animals-

The frog is a powerful and widespread symbol of intoxication in numerous native societies in South America.

The crystallized venom of Cobras is often mixed with cannabis and then smoked by Holy Men in India.

After killing a giraffe the hunters make camp and prepare a drink called umm nyolokh from its liver and bone marrow.
The hunters say that the making of this drink is the main reason for hunting the giraffe.
\"it is said that a person, once he has drunk umm nyolokh, will return to giraffe again and again\"
Humr, being Mahdists, are strict abstainers and a Humrawi is never drunk (sakran) on liquor or beer. But he uses this word to describe the effects which umm nyolokh has upon him.\'
After drinking it, dreams of giraffes are commonly reported and Cunnison said that he actually heard a man wake up shortly after drinking it shouting \'giraffe on your left\'. Waking hallucinations experienced under the influence of the drink also typically involve giraffes.

Stories of psychotropic birds are extremely rare. A sixteenth century account of the Aztecs by Diego Munoz Camargo describes how eating the flesh of the bird named oconenetl induces visions. It is not known to which kind of bird this refers, beyond the description of it as being fed and black.
It is possible that either the bird itself produced a psychoactive substance or it ingested the drug from a plant source.
Batrachotoxins (i.e. amphibian poisons) have been recently discovered in the feathers and skin of South American birds of the genus Pitohui Richard Schultes has reported that the bones of a certain bird that ate the fruits of a plant that was used as an additive to ayahuasca were known to be poisonous to dogs.

The Amahuaca people of the Peruvian Amazon are reported to use the poison from a frog (Phyllomedusa bicolor) to induce states of trance. The poison is rubbed into self-inflicted burns and believed to allow the hunters to communicate with animal spirits.

Ratsch has suggested that the yellow stingray (Urolophus jamaicensis) was used for its inebriating and aphrodisiac venom in pre-Columbian times by the Maya.

A nineteenth-century French explorer named Augustin de Saint-Hilaire (1779—1853) has left behind descriptions of the use of bicho de tacuara, a \'bamboo grub\' (which seems actually to be the larva of a certain type of moth) by the Malalis, an indigenous people of eastern Brazil, and some Portuguese residents who had \'gone native\'.





Links-

http://www.erowid.org/animals/bee/bee_info1.shtml
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75139
http://www.salviasource.org/forum/psychoac...-psychoactives/
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/var004.htm
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=...f856a575d939ef4
http://www.erowid.org/animals/toads/toads.shtml
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default.asp...sts&m=85052
http://drugsafetysite.com/herbs/animals/
http://www.greenexpander.com/2007/11/07/cr...-used-as-drugs/
http://www.tripzine.com/listing.php?smlid=646
http://www.x-sandra.com/valencic/valencic/salamander.htm
http://www.cracked.com/article/81_6-animal...n-get-you-high/
http://www.grailtrail.ndo.co.uk/Grails/brandy.html
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/...cobra_venom.php
http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Drug...nom-73246.shtml
http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn...aulast=Varghese
http://www.jpgmonline.com/article.asp?issn...t=Varghese#ref4
 
that bit abut the giraffe bone and liver is very interesting information.
 
do you have any information on animals that consume psychedelics naturally?
 
Reminds me of this:

Bear Bile (be warned, this is heartwrenching):

NSFW:


Personally, I am against the use of animals as psychoactives. Unless we include humans. They taste good ;)
 
Hunting a giraffe is COMPLETELY different. You kill the giraffe. It's dead. You eat it, and the liver and bones are psychoactive. But if you're out killing giraffes well you probably need to be out hunting something, so its fine by me.

The bear bile thing is disgusting because they cage and tap their bile, without killing the animal. It's a horrible practice and I've been supporting charities to stop this shit for about 15 years now. Don't compare it to hunting animals for food though. That would be the stupid hippy point of view.
 
very good point. the deliberate torture of animals for a substance isnt right at all. I admire your supporting to help and end animal cruelty
 
Don't compare it to hunting animals for food though. That would be the stupid hippy point of view.

Maybe so, but it doesn't seem that this thread is about hunting animals for their culinary attributes; more like their psychoactivity.
 
Maybe so, but it doesn't seem that this thread is about hunting animals for their culinary attributes; more like their psychoactivity.

Yeah, but I don't think anyone here is going to go out giraffe hunting tomorrow. They aren't just wandering around on all the continents. Also, if you take into consideration how much bone and liver a giraffe has, I'm guessing one has quite a few doses. Not to mention how difficult it actually is to go out and find a giraffe, kill it, skin it, cut it up etc. It's a HUGE animal. The logistics of hunting it purely for its psychoactive ability is just silly. It's not worth the amount of energy it would take unless you ate the meat for sustenance as well. This is assuming that you are needing to hunt etc. Not some idiot person going giraffe hunting for kicks with a big gun and a chainsaw. But I doubt you would when you can access other psychoactives without THAT much effort.

As for the rest of them. Most of the reptiles are probably milked for their psychoactives, not killed. The fish well, if you manage to catch one good on ya. The insects, as long as they aren't endangered I don't really care that much, they reproduce en masse to be cannon fodder for plenty of things, why not humans.

And the psychoactive bird? Well we aren't even sure what that is.

All in all I think its just interesting information. I highly doubt anyone acting on it.
 
Yeah, but I don't think anyone here is going to go out giraffe hunting tomorrow.

Ha, true, I'm actually going moondancing.
 
Although now that I consider it, it would be awesome if you could pay to go giraffe hunting just once in your life to do that, with a bunch of close friends. I imagine the ritual would be quite something. Sounds like a fun thing to try. (I have no problem with hunting as long as its done in a way that is not torturing the animal and not endangering anything, or reckless)

Giraffe farm anyone?

I imagine the experience would increase ones respect for giraffes and animals in general, rather than lower it.
 
^I'm a vegetarian, so hhunting and such doesn't sit well with me: however, each to their own.
 
Yeah I respect that. I wouldn't support anything that would harm a species overall, or cause undue harm on an animal for no good reason though. To be honest I'm getting close to being vegetarian these days. Hunting feels like the meat is a reward for your massive physical effort to me though, I can't think of anything more natural for a human to be doing than out hunting for their own food. Instead of going to the supermarket and buying precut steaks with no concept of how that animal lived, died or where it came from. I think a lot of kids don't even have any real concept that the meat is from a living, breathing animal, which makes it hard to have any respect for them.
 
Ethics of hunting aside, the quote in the OP seems to indicate they hunt giraffe specifically *for* the psychoactive effect and that those why try it are compelled to hunt more and more of them. Sounds to me sort of like superstitions about ivory leading to overhunting of elephants. At any rate, I am highly skeptical that there is actually a significant psychoactive in giraffe bones. There are MANY recorded traditional rituals that are associated with altered states of consciousness but don't actually involve entheogen use. Think of all the random inactive plants that are included in some ayahuasca recipes because the shamans producing them had no idea what MAOIs and DMT were and just had some vague notion of altering the spirit or personality of the brew.
 
^^^

Don't necessarily disagree, but hunting a giraffe is not going to be as easy as collecting some plants. Ivory hunting is different. It was done with guns by people looking to profit. I doubt anybody is going to profit from killing giraffes and selling their livers and bones as psychoactives, given how many easy to obtain psychoactive substances exist in modern society. Ivory on the other hand is a one off kind of thing. Walrus, elephants... what else?
 
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