Bluelight

Thread: Ephedrine vs. Pseudoephedrine

Results 1 to 23 of 23
  1. Collapse Details
    Ephedrine vs. Pseudoephedrine 
    #1
    Bluelighter nekointheclouds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The top of a Giant Rainbow in the Clouds.
    Posts
    5,138
    Capsule
    Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could explian some of the differences between ephedrine and pseudoephedrine. I know they are related, and are both stimulants, so what is the difference?

    I ask because I was considering getting some ephedrine online, I used to take it(when it was legal to have in energy pills) to help boost my energy and to help loose some weight. I had very good results using it for those reasons. Right now I take pseudoephedrine maybe once or twice a week at work, and I usually take 180mg or so. But I wasnt sure if it was okay to take it more then that, nor was I sure if it would help boost my metabolism to help loose a few pounds.

    I guess the bottom line is would it be worth it to get actual ephedrine? or should I just stick to taking pseudoephedrine? Any insight would be great!
    Reply With Quote
     

  2. Collapse Details
     
    #2
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    They are both structurally the same thing. psuedo is a little stronger.
    Reply With Quote
     

  3. Collapse Details
     
    #3
    Bluelighter nekointheclouds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The top of a Giant Rainbow in the Clouds.
    Posts
    5,138
    Hm. do you or anyone else know if psuedo helps boost metabolism? I know it suppresses appetite, and it gives me a boost in energy and concentration, something coffee has been failing to help with.
    Reply With Quote
     

  4. Collapse Details
     
    #4
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    All stimulates do to some point.
    The stronger the stim, the higher the metabolism.
    Reply With Quote
     

  5. Collapse Details
     
    #5
    Moderator
    Basic Drug Discussion
    Bob Loblaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Politically correct day-care
    Posts
    17,675
    Well, one is real and the other is fake .


    Ephedrine is better ? IDK, don't think there's much abuse potential with either TBH.
    Reply With Quote
     

  6. Collapse Details
     
    #6
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    There isn't Bob, we both know this.

    Your heart will blow itself to hell before you feel real euphoria.
    Reply With Quote
     

  7. Collapse Details
     
    #7
    Moderator
    Basic Drug Discussion
    Bob Loblaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Politically correct day-care
    Posts
    17,675
    To be fair, I have heard reports of both of them being abused .
    Reply With Quote
     

  8. Collapse Details
     
    #8
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    Yeah, in the non-pro sports world, I have too.
    I would down this all the way as an upper.
    Reply With Quote
     

  9. Collapse Details
     
    #9
    Bluelighter nekointheclouds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The top of a Giant Rainbow in the Clouds.
    Posts
    5,138
    I know there is little to no chance of achieving any euphoria, I was able to gather that much. I was mostly making sure it would be okay to take more then a few times a week. Like maybe 5 times a week. I'm telling you, taking 180mg. of psuedo at work really helps the day go by faster. But from what I gather so far, I dont think its worth ordering epherdine, and just sticking with the pseudo.
    Reply With Quote
     

  10. Collapse Details
     
    #10
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    You are right, no sense in spending more money to get the same feel.
    Reply With Quote
     

  11. Collapse Details
     
    #11
    I'm not sure what the people above me are getting at, but Pseudoephedrine is 'not-quite' Ephedrine, and in my experience snorting and taking it several times, it does near nothing. You get strong jittery/anxiety from it, and a runny nose from death. I'm however getting my own source of Ephedrine, so I'll be able to comment on that in the future. Otherwise I have friend's who have done it, and a few pills gave them mild-mid euphoria and tons of energy, they loved it.
    Reply With Quote
     

  12. Collapse Details
     
    #12
    Bluelighter nekointheclouds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The top of a Giant Rainbow in the Clouds.
    Posts
    5,138
    A runny nose? I have taken plenty of pseudoephedrine and have never gotten a runny nose. In fact I'm rather sure is used to clear/dry up your nasal passages. But I have also never snorted it, nor do I think I ever will.
    Reply With Quote
     

  13. Collapse Details
     
    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by nekointheclouds View Post
    A runny nose? I have taken plenty of pseudoephedrine and have never gotten a runny nose. In fact I'm rather sure is used to clear/dry up your nasal passages. But I have also never snorted it, nor do I think I ever will.
    I thought it would do that too... It just made my nose run non-stop for days. The first hours from when I snorted it were the worst though, it was literally running like a tap! This was Sudafed by the way, and the only ingredient in the pills was Pseudoephedrine. I did have somewhat sore/aching sinus' at the time, but the results were near instant, so I assume the Pseudo just unblocked them, very effectively.
    Reply With Quote
     

  14. Collapse Details
     
    #14
    Moderator
    Basic Drug Discussion
    Bob Loblaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Politically correct day-care
    Posts
    17,675
    ^I would imagine it ran because you snorted it...


    :/
    Reply With Quote
     

  15. Collapse Details
     
    #15
    Bluelighter N0 W4RN1NG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    439
    Quote Originally Posted by Psychedelic Jay View Post
    You are right, no sense in spending more money to get the same feel.
    Ephedrine isn't really euphoric, but it's a hell of a lot better than pseudoephedrine as a general stimulant. I use ephedrine all the time for morning energy\late night studying.

    30mg of ephedrine is a very helpful boost, 50mg is almost overstimulating, pseudoephedrine is absolutely worthless in this regard as far as I'm concerned.

    It may be more potent as a decongestant, but as a stimulant ephedrine is far more potent.
    Reply With Quote
     

  16. Collapse Details
     
    #16
    Bluelighter /navarone/'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Under your bed, masturbating...
    Posts
    1,389
    Pseudoephedrine (both dextro and levo isomers) is worthless as a stimulant, you'll just feel sick and have insomnia if you take high doses. I'ts just good as a decongestant if you have a cold.

    Ephedrine (the dextro isomer) on the other hand is considered a stimulant, and was given to many soldiers and athletes once, i've tried it many times and it's indeed stimulanting especially if IVd, but there have been many concerns on its possible cardiovascular side-effects.
    A few people died from heart failure, however the dose they took and the pre-existing heart condition was unknown.
    Reply With Quote
     

  17. Collapse Details
     
    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by /navarone/ View Post
    Pseudoephedrine (both dextro and levo isomers) is worthless as a stimulant, you'll just feel sick and have insomnia if you take high doses. I'ts just good as a decongestant if you have a cold.

    Ephedrine (the dextro isomer) on the other hand is considered a stimulant, and was given to many soldiers and athletes once, i've tried it many times and it's indeed stimulanting especially if IVd, but there have been many concerns on its possible cardiovascular side-effects.
    A few people died from heart failure, however the dose they took and the pre-existing heart condition was unknown.
    Exactly. Someone like me with a naturally low blood pressure (not too low, but pretty low...) should be fine if I'm not being an idiot, shouldn't I? I was told that having a blood pressure so low is a godsend IF it doesn't cause you to "whiteout" or give you lethargy...
    Reply With Quote
     

  18. Collapse Details
     
    #18
    Hey, very newfaggish Q... but what's the legal status of Ephedrine? I've read a bunch of stuff online.. but what I understand is that it's legal to buy, but the pills only have 10mg each or something.

    I'm sure I'm wrong, but could someone elaborate on this real quick please?
    Reply With Quote
     

  19. Collapse Details
     
    #19
    Bluelighter N0 W4RN1NG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    439
    Quote Originally Posted by PattyMMelt View Post
    Hey, very newfaggish Q... but what's the legal status of Ephedrine? I've read a bunch of stuff online.. but what I understand is that it's legal to buy, but the pills only have 10mg each or something.

    I'm sure I'm wrong, but could someone elaborate on this real quick please?
    You can get ephedrine pills pretty cheaply at your local drug store, they're called "bronkaid" and they have 25mg of ephedrine per pill, but they also have a little gaufenesin, but that's not a problem because only one or two pills will give you plenty of energy.
    Reply With Quote
     

  20. Collapse Details
     
    #20
    pseudoephedrine is more use in cough related compounds and is not good at all.

    ephedrine is good mixed with coffee and alcohol for a good dancing night
    Reply With Quote
     

  21. Collapse Details
     
    #21
    Bluelighter nekointheclouds's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    The top of a Giant Rainbow in the Clouds.
    Posts
    5,138
    Okay, so after listening to folks, I did in fact go to the local drug store and pick up ephedrine. I was pleasantly surprised that for the same price I payed for pseudoephedrine, I got three times the ephedrine. Thats a perk. So I think I'll see how that goes for the uses of weight loss and motivation. Thanks for everyone's opinions!
    Reply With Quote
     

  22. Collapse Details
     
    #22
    Bluelighter
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Just off the frontline, Where the OB ain't.
    Posts
    341
    The second post said pseudo was stronger than ephedrine- which no-one has corrected. Ephedrine is actually around three times stronger than pseudo both as a decongestant and a stimulant. This is why 15-25mg ephedrine goes into cold remedies while pseudo has a standard dose of 60mg.
    Reply With Quote
     

  23. Collapse Details
     
    #23
    Bluelighter Psychedelic Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    6,017
    I meant the other way around, nice catch.

    Yeah, I decided to buy some myself, and sure enough, I had a panic attack(only does downers.)

    I'm pretty glad I had some benzos handy.
    That shit was rough on the edges. Again, I expected this.
    Reply With Quote
     

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •