Opioids Dilaudid/hydromorphone MEGA THREAD and FAQ

[Ejizme]

I wanted to chime in for the sake of HR.
I have a little story about snorting D.
After about 6 years of being clean I snorted a 4th of a 8mg pill, so 2mg and I was absolutely fucked up.
I was spinning and sweating, even threw up while going down the road(wasnt driving thankfully).
So please be careful if you have a low tolerance. Someone suggested start with 5mg but that would have
been fatal to me.

 

[Kellyfendiloxphine]

I wanted to chime in for the sake of HR.
I have a little story about snorting D.
After about 6 years of being clean I snorted a 4th of a 8mg pill, so 2mg and I was absolutely fucked up.
I was spinning and sweating, even threw up while going down the road(wasnt driving thankfully).
So please be careful if you have a low tolerance. Someone suggested start with 5mg but that would have
been fatal to me.

Yikes, that does not sound fun at all! Dilaudid is confusing, because it's so powerful. It's stronger than heroin. 1 mg is a huge deal and can be misleading. I believe 1 mg of dilaudid is the equivalent to 5-10 mg of oxycodone... the starting oral dosage of oxycodone is 2.5 mg - 10 mg.. any more than that could be fatal. It would be wise to start with 1 mg of Dilaudid and use it orally IMO, if no tolerance.

 

[Lsmitty88]

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So when I lived in Florida I would smoke on average 3 to 6 perk 30s a day.
When I started shooting dilaudid I started with a quarter of an 8mg pp (the triangle shaped ones or some ppl called them stop shields)and I would get a decent rush but after the rush didn't feel much. I found 4mg or half an 8 was good for me. Doing the whole 8 the rush still felt the same and 3 to 4 hours high was gone either way.
So at least splitting it could get another rush and high again if I waited 6 to 8 hours. Where i lived everyone would mix ice, crystal whatever u want to call it normally with a quarter of an 8. First time I tried it someone just gave it to me and told me to try. Holy shit that is the best feeling ever.
I have since moved back to pa and pretty much never shot up but maybe twice a year. Only opiate I will shoot is dilaudid. H is way to risky, I think a Roxy is better smoked or snorted and I have to put a little ice with it because it's just the best feeling ever.
Just my opinion.

QUOTE=heavyriffer;10884986]I was sort of wondering about something,. a few days ago i picked up some triangle dilaudid 8mg, split in half and railed 4mg.

only after i was buzzed i read that hydromorphone is 8x more stronger than morphine. so it was like i snorted 32mg of
morphine, so...did i like survive an overdose? hahaha feedback plz thanks[/QUOTE]

 

[Icyblueriot]

UPDATE: okay so yesterday I wound up snorting the 4mg. I cut it into two lines and within 15 min I started feeling a bit of a head high. Nothing too crazy at all, but I noticed it. It was more apparent when I was walking around. Anyway, I kept getting tired, then having energy, over and over. Weird, but enjoyable.

Well by 4 I was extremely tired, so I noded off, when something crazy happened; i started having closed eye visuals. Very very strange...I litterally could picture something going on like I were there, while being awake, and knowing I was laying down to go to sleep, if that makes any sense. It was very crazy; I lasted about 20 min, litterally opening my eyes and closing them to have some other story unfold.

Anywho very weird and has this happened to anyone else?? Feedback would be great.

Thanks again.

Yes! I usually snort 8 - 12 8mg hydromorphone, I was completely aware of what was going on, my mind was screaming at my body to open the eyes, move a limb, or take a deeper breath. It was so bizarre. I was breathing, but aware of how shallow it was and I was terrified (stupidly) individuals know when they are overdosing and can?t do anything about it.

 

[Icyblueriot]

I have been snorting my hydromorphone, and get a decent high that lasts about 4-5 hours. I?m intrigued by the IV ROA. I am wondering since my current ROA has the BA is 50% , I do not want to shoot the number of pills I snort, correct? Should I go less than half of what I usually do?

 

[THCified]

I have tried snorting and plugging on many occasions now but I?m still unsure which ROA seems to have the highest BV, makes more sense: in short, is the more efficient one - even though I tend to believe it?s the backdoor-way i prefer the most and so naturally might, to a high percentage, stick to IR-administration as I love this application form a lot!

 

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8-12 a day? Or 8-12 at a time???

 

[Jekyl Anhydride]

8-12 a day? Or 8-12 at a time???

It wasn't specified but should be noted that 64mgs is equal to roughly 500mg of Morphine. It's not surprising that led to a near/ mild overdose situation.

 

[JKADE1998]

when getting high on dilaudid/hydromorphone what is the max you should take when snorting. been doing it for a week or so now and dont get as high as i use to.

 

[hydroazuanacaine]

a little bit more than you used to. or take a break for a few weeks and then do how much you used to. if you have a tolerance, how much is completely subjective.

 

[JKADE1998]

thank you

 

[JKADE1998]

i am taking dilaudid every 2 hours tonight. i am up to 28 MG do you think i will be ok to do more. i feel so great right now. and to inform you guys i have a really high tolerance

 

[Moml3oss]

This method of filtration is still most convenient and will continue to be method used, however, i do think a discussion needs to be had on the hazards of simple filtering, such as cotton fever.

 

[knightworrier]

The gray stuff is very similar to glue! Do not inject that "yucky gel stuff" it is water soluble but I suggest filtering as much as poss. But get rid of the gray side. Bin that bitch.

 

[BCski]

I hope I'm posting in the correct place. Part of my question is about preparation but includes ham reduction.

I've been searching this and other forums but having difficulty finding the "best" way to prepare Dilaudid pills for IV use. I have read everything from plugging to insufflation but am still interested in IV despite the increase in risk. I have a very low opioid tolerance and my doctor only prescribes the 1mg Purdue tabs. I'm taking about 10 tabs in a 24 hour time span... About 2mg 5 times a day. So, I have questions regarding Dilaudid pill prep and how to do so in the safest manner. Furthermore, i would like to know how I could prepare amounts for more than 1 shot - that is, if i want to prepare several shots to use over the next 24 hours or so. I am located ina remote part of the province so I really don't have anybody to show me the ropes. I'll try to wake this in a manner which hopefully makes good sense.

1. I know everyone is different but how many milligrams should I start out trying? 1mg, 0.5mg? Since I have 1mg tabs, what amount of sterile water should I use per pill? If I use 30 units for 1mg, would I use 60 units for 2mg?

2. Harm reduction: in choosing something to mix my pills with (spoon, etc) how should I get sterilize it? Should I boil it in your water? Should I just say it in soap and water? Should I bathe it in isopropyl alcohol and let it evaporate totally? Should I should I use a combination of these with the last being bathing it in alcohol?

3. I've read that some people just stir the drug and water mixture for " a couple of minutes" but have also read that some people have let it sit overnight as well. This sounds like more bacteria have a chance to grow it you wait so many hours.

4. In drawing up the solution, can you do it with a micron filter without any cotton? I was thinking that I could draw up the solution with a 45 micron filter, I could later push the solution (in a different barrel) through a 22 micron filter? Can you actually pull up the mix through a filter or only push through it? I was thinking that by pulling through a filter without cotton, I could avoid larger sized binders/fillers or would a cotton filter plus a micron filter combo be better? Also, when pulling up the mix, should I use a blunt needle was opposed to a sharp one as it may dull the tip? Would a larger diameter micron filter be better if filtering out larger amounts of Dilaudid. I read a little about the type of filters for Dilaudid/hydromorphone and it seemed as if people on this form prefer PES or PVDF but I do not understand exactly why. I heard the brand of filter makes a difference because cheap ones may burst under the slightest of pressure. I heard that Whatman filters are good, but are there others similar to this type. I understand that Whatmans are very costly and don't know if you could even buy a few instead of 50 of 100 as I have seen on most websites.

5. When thinking about the type of water, which is better...sterile water for injection, 0.9% saline or boiled water? I figured the boiled water is the last to choose but it's the cheapest and easiest to acquire in comparison to the other 2 which may not be available to the general public.

6. My veins are not that prominent as they one used to be. Would you recommend a 1/2 inch needle or even smaller? I know everybody is different and that this may be just a "trial and error" sort of thing.

7. Should i prepare by getting any anti-nausea medication or take some before I inject just in case?


8. If I want to prepare enough for several shots, can I put some in a sterile vial instead of making up several syringes? Where can one get an empty sterile vial?

Okay, I think that's all I can think of for now. Again, I apologize if this post is in the wrong spot rather than a new thread. I would like to have posted it like "need help with prepping Dilaudid, using micron filters" but didn't want to get anybody pissed saying I should "search the threads" and all. Sometimes there isn't enough answers to cover all the areas or questions one desires. I looked for threads about sterilizing your gear and using proper aseptic techniques but could not find any specific unifying posts. I wish there were mega threads or stickied ones that have numerous ways to do things (ex. Micron filtering, injection technique,etc) posted by several users instead of just a couple people posting their techniques, etc with a million comments that cause the thread to be excessively long. I do not mean any offence to BL and am thankful for the community it has created. I know that there isn't any perfect way to set up a forum and am marvelled how extensive this one is. So, thank you BL aand appreciate any help I can get!

 

[Harmredux]

I can't see if anyone replied to last post but it is old.... And I would like to necro it if possible - mods, what is the best way to go about this?

 

[Pashta]

Anyone heard of Hydrmorphone csusing stomach pain/cramps/spasms? Pretty harsh pain enough to have me on the floor just hoping it will stop... Last anywhere from 10 mins to an hour so far..

I have been taking Norco and oxycodone daily for 3 years and they do not cause this. In fact they do the opposite (WD causes stomach issues and taking more Norco or oxycodone stops it).

So tolerwnfe cannot be the issue... Is there something different with Hydrmorphone? Maybe it's the cheap Roxane generics?

And before anyone says constipation, I used the bathroom fully and still had it happen next day. I normally do not drink water but have started, so unlikely dehydration.......If it was me drinking water along with sports drinks would have stopped or at least lessened these "stomach pain attacks" from occurring but they seem to have not, it has happened 7-8 times now over the last month... Once 2 days In a row

I'm confused here. Maybe it's something else and started to happen shortly after I started taking Hydrmorphone?

Yes, me. I have been taking hydrocodone for years for serious pain and the pain clinic tried switching me to hydromorphone ER. I was given the hydromorphone ER 32mg tablets and it was making me extremely sick every day, like you described.

I am trying hydromorphone again with a new doctor, because I am unsure if it was the hydromorphone itself making me sick, was the prescription too low, or maybe was it covid hanging on (we had covid around that time).

Unfortunately, today was the first time I tried hydromorphone ER again (2 16mg tablets at once) as prescribed, and it wasn't strong enough plus it made my stomach hurt. I started going into withdrawal and had runny nose, diarrhea, etc. on top of excessive pain.

I wonder if sometimes those things can get stuck, since I read they don't really change shape in our digestive tracts? I stopped taking them that first time. It hurt so much I told them they'd have to switch me back or I'd be forced to go to a rehab or something to get taken off. They switched me back to the hydrocodone, thankfully.

Did you stop taking them, too? Ever figure out what it was?

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Now a question for anyone else reading this since I'm here:

Apparently 2 16mg ER is NOT comparable to 2 50mg hydrocodone ER capsules. Just in case anyone looks this up in the future... I couldn't find any tables or conversion calculators that would convert hydrocodone ER to hydromorphone ER. Does anyone know what I SHOULD take?

I was on 4 hydrocodone ER capsules a day and 8 10-325 hydrocodone IR tablets for breakthrough pain before the doctor tried to switch it because it isn't enough- it doesn't last long enough and I have 24/7 constant pain.

So the doc gave me these to try: 2 16mg hydromorphone ER tablets plus 2 50mg hydrocodone ER capsules along with my 8 10/325mg hydrocodone for breakthrough pain.

He told me to take the hydromorphone meds and the hydrocodones together, the 2 hydromorphone in the morning and the 2 hydrocodone in the evening if needed. I am out of the breakthrough meds (it's the end of the month and I always run out because my pain is not controlled well yet.)

As stated above, it was not even close to being the same dosage I was taking and I went into withdrawal. So I took 2 of the 50s and it helped a lot, once they started working (they take two hours to work and then only last for 6 hours!) and took two more in the evening. I think this is equivalent to my regular previous prescription because I think the w/d stuff stopped finally and my pain is tolerable, at least.

Any advice on what would probably work better for me? I'm suffering greatly and have been for a year while I was trying to get palliative care and someone to adjust my medicine. (Still don't have palliative care yet, but at least I found this doctor that is trying to help.)

Btw, to be clear - I just want advice on what would work best taking normally. I saw people mentioning snorting and stuff, I won't do that. I just want to be informed when I see the doctor and he tries to fix this rx for me. Please let me know if you can! Thank you!

 

[Dextro .45]

Dilaudid 2/4/8mg IR tablets
Hydromorph-Contin 3/6/9/12/18/24/30 XR capsules (XR beads)

“Red Rockets” Hydromorph-Contin 30mg large red capsule are freaking MASSIVE and compliment Dilaudid 8mg IR for breakthrough pain

Sandoz Pharmaceuticals manufacture a tiny 10ml glass vial with 1,000mg of Hydromorphone …..F@CK me silly, a single 1cc 30 gauge insulin syringe has 100mg of pure HM for IV/IM/SC injection ….tiny enough to fit discreetly in your pocket. Google it for a peak, little red labelled Sandoz HM - HP FORT

Also a 2,500mg glass vial (50mg/per ml) and a 250mg pure powder for compounding pharmacy

I would probably ______ a human being for a 3 life times supply of these, plus 1,000 Swiss Diamorphine 10gram glass jars and 900K Desoxyn tablets, Methedrine ampoules, 100kg Oxycodone HCL pure powder, d-MPH pure powder, Dexedrine tablets, Diazepam 10mg tablets (millions of them, plus pure API powder)

All locked in my cold dark dry basement cellar for long term storage

 

[Dextro .45]

Wow..diluadid is the only medicine my doctor prescribed that I gave back to him 2 days later and asked for Percocet. This was when I first dealt with chronic pain and felt oxy worked better. Gave away a full bottle of K4s.

If I'm prescribed it again I'll try plugging.

I was given the 8mg pills 4x a day for a month after surgery and I slept that month away.

I find morphine unless also unless they are giving it to me IV at the hospital. Then I'm really messed up. They say some people can't process morphine but since it works IVing it I think that I must not process the pills well.

Dilaudid (Hydromorphone) is a POTENT opioid analgesic and best suited for IV/IM/SC injection. Sandoz Pharmaceuticals manufactures a tiny 10ml glass vial red label with 1,000mg of HM. A single 1cc 1ml syringe has a whopping 100mg dose of Hydromorphone

But I too would trade it in for Oxy-IR 20mg / Oxycodone 80mg generic and a lifetime supply of pharma grade pure API powder of Oxycodone HCL I can either ingest orally or BANG 160mg I.V. 4 times a day

Oxycodone is the most euphoric opioid on earth and I’d #$&& for a lifetime supply of pharmaceutical raw powder for compounding & injecting

 

[Dextro .45]

Hi, I have a question. I am used to taking 30mg oxy orally. But i just got this 30mg hydromorph contins and so far I have read that its way stronger than my 30mg oxys. People are saying to snort or IV or whatever. I just want to take it orally. I am afraid that its going to be way too strong for me. Can i just take some of the beads out of the capsule and take those orally? I cant seem to find an answer from anyone saying thats ok to do... Can someone tell me if its fine to do the hydromorph contin beads the way they are? Thank you.

Canadian manufactured Purdue Pharma - Hydromorph-Contin 30mg “Red Rockets” are the largest XR dose available which contain lots of tiny beads inside the large red capsule

You can pulverize the tiny beads into a fine powder converting it into HM / Dilaudid 30mg IR which is a VERY large dose administered intravenously injected using a micron filter, which could/would OD an opioid naive individual

I had a script for Hydromorph-Contin 9mg XR blue capsules X 2 daily in addition to IR Dilaudid 2mg tablets X 4 daily, before daily Methadone 80mg

Oxycodone IR 30mg is WAY under the potency of Hydromorphone IR 30mg

Those “Red Rockets” HM 30mg XR are Highly desirable ….in the same way OxyContin 80mg greenies were (original formula).

Dilaudid 8mg IR tablets are like Gold X 4 daily, in addition to 2 capsules of Hydromorph-Contin 30mg XR would be a solid daily regiment for an opioid tolerant patient

Methadone 80mg daily taken in morning 8am, with an extra 20mg as needed daily at 5pm for breakthrough pain is my current regiment and is a potent long-acting mu-agonist that’s surprisingly euphoric and pleasurable

……it’s just a shame oral Hydromorphone is a “waste” as nearly 70% of the oral dose is destroyed by first pass metabolism (your liver) and the only way to administer HM is injection or an oral syringe up ur bum-bum according to all opioid users.

Sexiest HM product I’ve ever seen is Sandoz Pharmaceuticals 1,000 Hydromorphone in a tiny 10ml glass vial - Dilaudid HP Fort, an astonishing 100mg of Hydromorphone in a single 1ml syringe. This tiny little 10ml vial is small enough to keep in your front pocket. I’d kill to be on Sandoz production floor while they’re packaging newly manufactured vials in cardboard flats,100 vials, 50 lower deck, 50 above …like a box of chocolates lol ….Google this product and see the pic…..adorable little glass vial with red label IV/IM/SC injection 1,000mg vial / 100mg per ml

Slightly more potent by weight than Diacetylmorphine (Heroin), Hydromorphone (Dilaudid) is a heavy hitter and extremely highly desirable, side by side to Oxycodone & Diamorphine. Dilaudid is like Gold.

Morphine Sulphate is so 1900’s lol ….. Diamorphine/Dilaudid/Oxycodone/Methadone…and at the bottom Demerol which is like a Speedball, an mu-agonist opioid with dopaminergic stimulant properties DAT & NET

Controlled substances are so freaking Amazing……delicious food & cooking, hi-end firearms, luxury hi-performance automobiles, erotic crazy sex, great music and even better drugs lol….my brain processes them all in the same way. To me, it’s all pornography. XXX deviant delicacies fit for a King

Oxycodone & Methylphenidate (Ritalin) ….only 2 drugs to give me significant euphoria. Those two together would be insanely pleasurable….Speedballs are amazing