SynAmnesia
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I could think of a ton of things to do after snorting seroquel--none of which seem that pleasant. I think the top of the list would be to make a list of why I am snorting seroquel, and make sure to avoid tall buildings.
But yes, once a drug has "recreational potential" the gossip starts running through the communities, and people start trying it in interesting ways. If you are desperate enough, you will try it out. And if you want it to feel a certain way, you probably can make it appear to be that way. Even Ann Shugin said it isn't the compound that is important--it is the compound that propels your mind to these different states of conciousness. She once told the story about this time she was helping Sasha to titrate up the dose of a new RC. She took a dose that was predicted to have no effect. However, in 30 minutes or so, she was propelled into a +2 state and stayed that way for a couple of weeks. As Shulgin continued to titrate up the dose, they did indeed find that it was a subthreshold dose--however something about the chemical flipped a switch in her mind that caused an altered state, that was not based purely on the chemical's method of action.
I mean, people do take gapapentin, benadryl, cheese for recreational purposes. I mean, ugh--those don't sound recreational to me at all--but somehow people take them.
Also, the fact that it is snorted can change the effects of a drug. First, some people get a high off of snorting stuff, whether it is sugar or cocaine. This is especially true in the case of addicts who ingest drugs via insufflation, who can get a dopamine rush whenever they see a cut line on a table. In addition, if seroquel can cross over membranes, (which I don't know as I don't really want to look up the structure of seroquel as honestly, it is one of the compounds that I care least about), it can create a sort of a "rush." In fact, it isn't uncommon for drugs taken in different methods to have slightly different effects. It has been documented that oral ritalin has a slow mode of action, and acts like "slow drip cocaine." If you take it via insufflation, it produces more of a rush and is closer to the effects of cocaine. However, if you IV ritalin (which I don't recommend due to binders in the pills and other problems with IV), it becomes almost indistinguishable from cocaine in terms of effects, but it lasts a few hours.
Yes, I know. I need to find sources. (Ok, the Shulgin thing was taken from a speech the Shugin's made, so I am not sure if there is a written record of it.) It is just so annoying to find sources that I once knew on the internet and I am tired. I just had an urge to type on bluelight for a while in ADD. I need to stimulate my neurons occasionally.
But yes, once a drug has "recreational potential" the gossip starts running through the communities, and people start trying it in interesting ways. If you are desperate enough, you will try it out. And if you want it to feel a certain way, you probably can make it appear to be that way. Even Ann Shugin said it isn't the compound that is important--it is the compound that propels your mind to these different states of conciousness. She once told the story about this time she was helping Sasha to titrate up the dose of a new RC. She took a dose that was predicted to have no effect. However, in 30 minutes or so, she was propelled into a +2 state and stayed that way for a couple of weeks. As Shulgin continued to titrate up the dose, they did indeed find that it was a subthreshold dose--however something about the chemical flipped a switch in her mind that caused an altered state, that was not based purely on the chemical's method of action.
I mean, people do take gapapentin, benadryl, cheese for recreational purposes. I mean, ugh--those don't sound recreational to me at all--but somehow people take them.
Also, the fact that it is snorted can change the effects of a drug. First, some people get a high off of snorting stuff, whether it is sugar or cocaine. This is especially true in the case of addicts who ingest drugs via insufflation, who can get a dopamine rush whenever they see a cut line on a table. In addition, if seroquel can cross over membranes, (which I don't know as I don't really want to look up the structure of seroquel as honestly, it is one of the compounds that I care least about), it can create a sort of a "rush." In fact, it isn't uncommon for drugs taken in different methods to have slightly different effects. It has been documented that oral ritalin has a slow mode of action, and acts like "slow drip cocaine." If you take it via insufflation, it produces more of a rush and is closer to the effects of cocaine. However, if you IV ritalin (which I don't recommend due to binders in the pills and other problems with IV), it becomes almost indistinguishable from cocaine in terms of effects, but it lasts a few hours.
Yes, I know. I need to find sources. (Ok, the Shulgin thing was taken from a speech the Shugin's made, so I am not sure if there is a written record of it.) It is just so annoying to find sources that I once knew on the internet and I am tired. I just had an urge to type on bluelight for a while in ADD. I need to stimulate my neurons occasionally.