^^ Hello Bolo, welcome to BL. Just as a heads up, I would advise you to remove the vendor name from your post, as sources are not permitted content. No major harm done, but you might as well hear it from me instead of a moderator
Bolo, the rest of this long ass rambling post isn't to you, this is just in general. I know this is an older thread, but it has survived this long, so I thought I would chime in with a few thoughts. (I will admit I have not read every post)
We all, throughout our lives, get some aches and pains, right? I'll use myself as an example. I used to be a heavy, heavy drinker about 10 years ago. During that time of my life, I would often wake up and think to myself "mother fuck, my liver hurts right now". And there were, indeed, pains in that general area of my body. However, as user This Won't Hurt eloquently stated earlier, there are no nerves in the liver to transmit pain (although I didn't know that at the time). What caused those pains? I don't really know. Just cramps? Did I sleep wrong? I honestly don't know. The pains and aches were real. Was it related to the liver in any indirect way, or related to my copious consumption of alcohol? I'm not sure.
All of us get gastrointestinal issues at times too, right? Even when we were kids, before our first drug usage, we all got the shits from time to time, right?
Some of us get itchy at times. Histamine reactions or some shit. Allergies. Various reasons.
My overall point is, our bodies act weird, and aren't predictable. And maybe not everyone else is similar, and maybe it's because I'm getting old, but my body acts a little fucked up, in new fucked up ways all the time. Hell, I'm sober now, and it still happens. My body does some new, weird, fucked up shit all the time.
When we do something like take a new brand of kratom, and something weird happens, it's only natural to try and correlate the two. And I understand that, it's kind of natural human instinct right?
But when I think about it...most kratom vendors are actually trying to make money. That's why they're in business, and pay marketing costs, and all that shit. It's not cheap, to set up even a basic operation. And these vendors want some return on investment. And that makes me think there would be some basic levels of quality control and they aren't peddling absolute shit. Do I know any of this as fact? Nope, it's just me thinking through some shit. And I'm absolutely sure there are examples and stories that are contrary to what I just said. But I think those stories are the exception, and not the rule.
And, also, head shops aren't buying kratom out of a car trunk in an alley in the bad side of town.
I'm not saying people make shit up, and I'm DEFINITELY not trying to insult the intelligence of anyone who's posted in this thread. But as I get older, I just wonder if our bodies act fucked up a lot, and whenever we do something out of ordinary, like try some brand new kratom, we notice those fucked up things about our body more and try and correlate the two.
Obviously, this is not always the case. Some are obvious. Like a 2 day coke binge and irritated nasal cavities... those are two things I would reasonably say are related, lol. But I wouldn't jump to liver damage from a new brand of kratom.
