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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbreakable View Post
    well my dealers call it that.... and they are OG's of JC....so maybe its just the area
    Jersey City is my baby. I was copping there before Newark or Paterson, and 100% of my dudes there knew a bundle was 10 and a brick was 5 bundles (50). They were "OG's" too I guess.
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    Everywhere Ive ever copped in jersey a brick was 50 bags
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    Exactly
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    And all this time I thought bricks were keys...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbreakable View Post
    Correctomundo....

    they call them "bundles" or "bricks"
    no, they dont. nothing u say can possibly make that true. in jersey a brick is 50 bags. it aint 10 bags, it never was 10 bags, and never will be 10 bags. a bundle is 10 and a brick is 50. they aint interchangable. No dope dealer would mix those up, or think they both slang for the same thing. aint no way u can try to justify thinking that, cuz its just dead azz wrong yo. it aint different in jersey city, it aint different in paterson or newark, it aint different depending on the dealer you talkin to, this is one of the things that aint even arguable . i aint tryna put u down or say somethin bad about u. im just lettin u kno, that u should prob. get on point with ur slang asap becuz u aint gonna go nowhere else that ppl say that shit. just recognize that u wrong and get w/the reality or u gonna end up with a fucked up situation on ur hands next time u try to cop somewhere and talk about bricks and bundles like they the same thing.

    anyways, i dont kno wat the hell kind of crazy mixed-up "OG" you knew that talked like that, but he was a dumbazz, real talk....im more leanin towards thinkin u got called out on messin up ur slang terms and tried to cover ur ass with the classic "well maybe thats how YOU say it, but where *I'M* at people say it like this!" defense, and then hope the ppl who called u out aint familiar with the area u claim ppl talk that way in...

    dont be mad, im only bein real....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kakti View Post
    And all this time I thought bricks were keys...?
    people call kilograms of cocaine a brick sometimes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Charlie View Post
    people call kilograms of cocaine a brick sometimes
    Yea, I guess in the high up trafficking/distribution networks, they call kilos and pounds all sorts of shit. I've heard people call kilos bricks; cocaine, marijuana and even heroin. But we all know on street level a brick is 50 bags, but higher up I'm sure people call bricks too.
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    in Jersey, isn't there a specific name for 5 bricks? Or was it 10 bricks? I just remember it goes bundle-10, brick-50, and then another name for some certain number of bricks. I'm sure someone in here knows what I'm talking about....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrix Haze15 View Post
    in Jersey, isn't there a specific name for 5 bricks? Or was it 10 bricks? I just remember it goes bundle-10, brick-50, and then another name for some certain number of bricks. I'm sure someone in here knows what I'm talking about....?
    All the dealers in Jersey know a bag is a bag, a bundle is 10 bags and a brick is 50 bags but after that you are just getting into individual dealer slang. I don't think there is a universal thing for pre-packaged dope after a brick, but I know people call certain numbers of bricks shit. I forgot what my old guy used to call 5 bricks, I think I like heard him say it once. It's not very much widely used really. People will just say I need X amount of bricks, but I'm sure there is slang out there. There is slang out there for everything. Hood rats just love speaking slang. I thought I was pretty keen on street slang especially about drugs, but there is a lot of shit. When I was locked up, I heard dudes speaking crazy slang I'm just like WTF? There's like 50 slang words alone for PCP/Dust. And you know how much the brothers in the hood like smoking dust. A clip is 10 dimes of crack, I had to ask about that one. Also a tray is a $3 bag. Those are the ones I hear somewhat often and know what they are now, but dudes have slang for EVERYTHING.
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    Trey = 3 Dollar bag

    Man I wish I had a dude who would break me off $3 bags when I'm hurtin' and broke.
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    bundles typically a gram but some days are better than others... it's all a matter of luck i guess.
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    i dunno if this applies to jersey but i have heard the term a finger tossed a round. kinda makes since cause it would allways be whatever could be fit into a latex gloves finger and ingested to be smuggled into the country. not sure how much dope would fit in there either
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    Quote Originally Posted by shake2 View Post
    i dunno if this applies to jersey but i have heard the term a finger tossed a round. kinda makes since cause it would allways be whatever could be fit into a latex gloves finger and ingested to be smuggled into the country. not sure how much dope would fit in there either
    I've heard the term finger and believe it applies to 10 grams of dope, like you said fitting into a latex glove finger. Never seen one in person and don't know where they sell them though.
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    They sell raw dope by the "finger" in baltimore
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    ugh, slang is so frustrating.
    it can suck a ding dong
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    I hate having to keep track of all the different slang from the different places I cop. In CT, around Hartford, a brick is 10 buns, and a clip or half brick is 5. In NY and NJ, a brick is 5 buns. However, in all the different places the buns weigh about the same (~.4-.6). I've emptied whole bricks from Brooklyn, Washington Heights, Queens, Paterson, and CT to verify this, because I had always been told a bun was a gram, but that didn't seem right, based how much powder was in a bag. A bundle that weighs a gram would be wicked fire (quantity 10/10)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shake2 View Post
    i dunno if this applies to jersey but i have heard the term a finger tossed a round. kinda makes since cause it would allways be whatever could be fit into a latex gloves finger and ingested to be smuggled into the country. not sure how much dope would fit in there either
    A finger is 10 grams of pure dope, compressed together into a finger of a latex glove. I have never seen one but did meet a person in my last rehab who used to buy fingers in NYC. He said the dope was super super hard to break up, and was similar to a piece of chalk. Thinking about that just gives me a hard on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolessdrugs View Post
    I hate having to keep track of all the different slang from the different places I cop. In CT, around Hartford, a brick is 10 buns, and a clip or half brick is 5. In NY and NJ, a brick is 5 buns. However, in all the different places the buns weigh about the same (~.4-.6). I've emptied whole bricks from Brooklyn, Washington Heights, Queens, Paterson, and CT to verify this, because I had always been told a bun was a gram, but that didn't seem right, based how much powder was in a bag. A bundle that weighs a gram would be wicked fire (quantity 10/10)...
    Hold up, You are saying that u gettin bundles that are less than 1/2 a g? U coppin some beat bundles yo...they aint always gonna be a g, but ive had jersey shit weighed too and it was more like 70-100mg per BAG...So if ur bun was 0.4 then thats like a 4-6 bag bundle weight-wise...Somethin aint right there yo....it should not be that short. 0.8 total for a bun, OK that makes sense maybe the dopes fire and aint cut up alot or watever. but 0.4 is waaay too low for that shit to be weighing out to IMO...sometimes u get small buns but that should not be a common weight, on the regular , as a average.

    And no a bundle that weighed a gram would not be "straight fire" it could be a bundle of bullshit dope just becuz its large in quantity dont mean its fire quality.
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    .4 for a bundle is downright sad
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    I don't live on the east coast, and have never even seen a bundle but I can def. tell you that your getting totally screwed if your getting bundles weighing a .4. That would be like buying a pack of dope out here Cali which weighed a .4. Four bags should weigh a .4, not a pack/bundle
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    40mg per bag?! I mean that better be some fire man. Still skimp bags either way. I would say like .65 to .95 for a bundle is average. Anything 1.0 and up is a hard find and extremely extremely fat bags. Finding consistent bags with 100mg or over is a definite score. Makes it even more awesome if it's sick fire dope.
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    I've weighed lots of bricks, bundles, and bags and I've found them to average about half a gram. When's the last time you debagged a whole brick and put it on the scale? Weighin with the bags is really gonna throw you off. How much does an empty (not emptied) stamp bag weigh? First take a guess, then put it on the scale. Unless you already have that knowledge offhand (like I do the weights of other size bags: lil blue fifties, clear gram bags, ziploc sandwich bags...) I'll bet it'll surprise ya.

    lacey_k: really, I should be gettin .07-.1 per bag? I don't understand, because i'm picking up some of the same shit posted to the new stamp page: Ferrari, deathproof, unrated, Audi. They're from the same batch, but mine weigh half of what others says their buns weigh. There's no way my guy would be going through the trouble of halfing every bag in several bundles a day. I used to be of the opinion that buns were supposed to be ~1g, until I started weighing them and learned what the numbers actually were instead of the projections. Or maybe I've just been getting ripped off every time I bought a bundle for the last few years. I don't understand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolessdrugs View Post
    I've weighed lots of bricks, bundles, and bags and I've found them to average about half a gram. When's the last time you debagged a whole brick and put it on the scale? Weighin with the bags is really gonna throw you off. How much does an empty (not emptied) stamp bag weigh? First take a guess, then put it on the scale. Unless you already have that knowledge offhand (like I do the weights of other size bags: lil blue fifties, clear gram bags, ziploc sandwich bags...) I'll bet it'll surprise ya.

    lacey_k: really, I should be gettin .07-.1 per bag? I don't understand, because i'm picking up some of the same shit posted to the new stamp page: Ferrari, deathproof, unrated, Audi. They're from the same batch, but mine weigh half of what others says their buns weigh. There's no way my guy would be going through the trouble of halfing every bag in several bundles a day. I used to be of the opinion that buns were supposed to be ~1g, until I started weighing them and learned what the numbers actually were instead of the projections. Or maybe I've just been getting ripped off every time I bought a bundle for the last few years. I don't understand...
    I agree with you bro. I always though bundles weighed out to a gram and each bag was like .1, but that's not the case. I would say .4 is still a little on the low side. .6-.8 would be ideal. That's still quite a window, yes. People don't realize how extremely LIGHT dope weighs. A gram of cocaine powder and a gram of heroin powder are not the same in terms of quantity! There will be a lot more dope powder. Now imagine a gram of coke and break that up 10 times, you have some pretty fat lines, lines that are larger than a fat bag of dope for sure. That is how I try to explain it to people. Nobody would believe you unless you actually weighed it out in front of them. Not saying it's not possible to get bundles that weigh .9, which is basically like immensely fat bags, probably all full till the first fold. I think any smart person can take the gram of cocaine analogy and come to terms with it.
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    I've bought dope off fingers before, they also call them Chalk Sticks cause apparently they look like chalk like Hendrix Haze said. The most I ever bought off a chalk stick was two grams and the time I bought two grams it was really hard and really good and really dark. I chopped it with a razor before I booted it. It was absurd. I took my shirt off and raised my arms like jesus and was twirling when I was gettin the rush, I don't remember much after that. I know it doesn't sound like doped out behavior but believe me that shit was straight dope. I've also done more tan/brown dope off chalk sticks but it was a lot lighter and wasn't hard. The chalk sticks whose origins I knew were brooklyn and roxbury, MASS. I didn't cop them their though.
    Has anyone heard of 10 buns being called stacks or sleeves. For a long time I'd never heard of bricks, I just thought it went from 1 bun to 10.
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    dolessdrugs, I aint had none of those stamps that u mentioned. I been clean for a lil less than 3 mos tho, but anyways. U said u live in Upstate NY. If im wrong correct me.

    Its correct that 99% of street dealers aint opening up their bricks and cuttin them and retaping them. thats just retarded. BUT....I HAVE known, on more than a few occasions, either from my own personal experience with these shady ass gutta feens, or from seein em do it to friends, that alot of kids who cop shit and resell it in non urban place, DO do this shit. My dude, I seen a kid I know that copped THREE bricks for somebody, open up EVERY FUCKING BAG and tap some of the shit out and redo the bags, AND on top of that pinch a couple bags outta each brick too. Some of the bags was straight up empty yo, just the amount left that u would have leftover like when u dont tap the bag out all the way so u still have a little bit leftover to scrape when u run out of dope.

    I dont kno how u cop, who u cop from, or watever your situation is but one thing that I do know is the farther from the source u go, the more likely it gets that somebodys fuckin with ur bags. And dont get it twisted n think that Im sayin that street level hood dealers is doin this, becuz they aint. they get way too good prices on their bricks and got too much customers relying on them that they know its stupid to do that, takes too much time, and will lose them money instead of just continuing to sell mad amounts of diesel to their regular customers. BUT, Alot of shady junkies who use dope themself, and cop multiple bricks at a time and bring em back to the suburbs/country to resell em to the local feens in town, definately do that shit on the regular yo.

    Sure if you get from mad different sources it aint too likely that EVERYBODY does this, BUT, if there is a main supplier in your area thats higher up, there is a chance that most everybody is gettin the shit that they sell from him or her, and its the higherup dealer thats tappin the bags and makin em less. alot of times the country or suburb dealers do that shit so out of each bundle bag or brick they dump out like half or a quarter or a third or wtfever they decide on taking, and then they always got either extra for themself or they can make more money off splittin it up like that.

    I aint tryna assume ur situation and i aint sayin that wat i wrote here is definately wat happens to u. maybe u just been gettin consistently less fatter bags for ur dope using carreer. maybe everybody picks out the bigger bags and the smaller bags from their bricks and the smaller ones they sell and keep the bigger ones for their self when they are dealers/users. I kno many ppl that do that and i aint gonna lie, in the past when ive copped for ppl that i knew would do the same shit to me, i def picked out all the fatter bags in the brick for my share of the dope and left the shittyer smaller ones to the ppl i was makin the run for.

    Anyways all im sayin is that i agree with u that it aint so likely that for the past couple years every bag or bundle or brick u got was short becuz somebody took dope out of it, becuz the chances of every single one all the time bein pinched just aint realisic. So i get wat ur saying about ur opinion that since the weights is .4 to .6 all the time, u feel that u aint some kind of exception and that most other dope would also be the same way.

    But Im just tellin u, shit might be like that for you, but a real good friend of mine that I trust prob more than just about all my friends but a few and when it comes to this shit he dont lie, period, he was weighin alot of the bags that came thru his hands on the regular everytime he got em, and let me tell u it wasnt no fucking 0.4 gram bundles or .4 bags my dude. me and him was gettin the same shit and real talk, if shit had been that short, it woulda been unacceptable. he woulda been takin that shit right back and demandin free bundles or half his money back or some shit, he just dont tolerate no shit like that and if bags was that light, on the regular, as the average weight, it woulda been the end of him coppin from that connect. so while u got a valid point and so do u Altek, I kno u always kno ur shit and it is right that dope aint the same size as coke, but i can also speak from my own legitimate experience that at least where i got em at, that was not a average size for bags. and im talkin without the bag, not a bag worth of dope weighed still inside the stamp bag.

    bottom line is wherever u at and how many hands it go thru, how far u are from the source it was copped at and how far that source is from teh original source, and all that shit, is gonna affect the quality n size of ur bags, so I aint sayin u wrong but just that u shouldnt assume that bundles that weight out to the .4-.6 g standard aint some shit that would have me bein like, "Aight, cool, thats fair enough, nothin outta the ordinary here" u feel me? but if its wat u used to then i guess it dotn bother u that much...

    Also altek a bag of dope that was between 3 and 3.5 grams, inside a regular sandwich baggie (not a ziplock just the kind with the open top that u fold over) was mad small. I would say if u took a teaspoon measuring spoon like the kind u use for baking. and imagine a circle about that big all around. like the spoon is like if a sphere got cut in half so just imagine the other half of it bein there, and that was ABOUT the size that the ~3g's of diesel was when it was pushed to the bottom corner of the baggie and the top twisted and tied in a knot so it was packed kinda tight into the corner of the baggie. like this

    and i aint got no idea WTF that pic is of but the one on the left (lol, WTF they doin with it, puttin a stick on it?? anyways) is wat i mean when i say in the corner of the baggie. The pic aint nothin to do with the size of it, but the dope was packaged like that and about the diameter of a 1 teaspoon measuring spoon so it aint that much bigger than coke ....dope is actually pretty small when it comes pure. also just for the record my boy had mg scale, not a gram scale that measured only in tenth of a gram for quantities under a G.
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