AO - Soo sorry it took me a day to get back to you!!
I think it would be more rational to separate withdrawal information within a particular drug category according to the duration/elimination half-life (exceptions for drugs like tramadol however should be made due to its additional pharmacology relative to other opioids)- i.e., ultra-short, short/intermediate, long, & ultra-long acting drugs. This seems like a bit less work than referring to each individual drug, such as clonazepam, diazepam, alproazolam, & the gobs & gobs of other -zepam drugs!
Definitely a great suggestion,
AlphaOdure, thank you!
But to clarify, I hadn't meant making separate withdrawal pages (for example) between heroin, morphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone, et al. - Just a Withdrawal Wiki specifically for the class of Opiates/Opioids, one for Benzodiazepines and Z-drugs, one for Barbiturates, etc.
So, divided by
class of drug, rather than by each individual drug within that class - that would amount to well over fifty separate Wiki articles which would indeed be a massive endeavor!
I
do like the idea of separable sections
within each category - we can most certainly approach it that way. Another angle I thought of after reading your suggestion was that, in the Benzodiazepine W/D Wiki for example, we might construct a general mass of information that pertains to withdrawal from all benzodiazepines ubiquitously. Then, a list of the benzodiazepines (divvied up by short-, intermediate- and long-lasting), followed by three subsections - one for each duration category - that describe special considerations and unique attributes to withdrawing from each relative to the rest. One example would be that shorter-lasting BZD's are more likely to lead to harsher withdrawal symptoms given their half-lives (and there's where a specific discussion of the pharmacology would come in handy).
Great ideas, all of them!!
AlphaOdure said:
It has been three months since the last post on this issue? What is the status of the wiki page?
As of this time, wiki pages neither exist for "Withdrawal" nor "Drug Withdrawal." I'd L-O-V-E to get this underway!
AlphaOdure said:
Vaya- if you need help and if those responsible for this project don't mind--i'd be more than happy to assist. I already have finished compositions of withdrawal effects, treatments, and duration of symptoms for a lot of substances (for my own use, seeing as though i'm a freelance writer w/ a lust for pharmacology since the age of 13 )--mostly accounts of my past opioid use (of every flavor, from the ultra-short acting fentanyl to the ultra-long such as buprenorphine; & also unique ones possessing kappa- or other non-opioidergic effects, chiefly meperidine & tramadol) I also have material written on some GABAergic withdrawal- barbiturates (butalbital) and carisoprodol (a prodrug of the highly addictive substance meprobamate, I personally found it more addictive than benzodiazepines).
Oh, shit.
...really?? :D:D:D:D
That all sounds like
gold AO; would you mind either posting in here or PM'ing me what you have so far so I can take a look? I would love nothing more than for you to collaborate with us on making this Wiki page happen - I dare say, it may be one of the most-visited pages on the BL Wiki if we can get it up and running. I'd love to see what you have; thank you so much for offering to assist us, it means so much.
In the meantime, hop on over to the Wiki and
create an account there if you haven't already, and have a look at what we've got so far. The entire project is a work-in-progress, but personally I would like to see the articles presented in a nicely formatted, thorough way. These were the guidelines by which I constructed the
Methamphetamine Wiki Page. It doesn't have to be a copy-cat, all-inclusive format like mine, that page represents how I would like to have seen it were I to have been seeking information on Meth from the BL Wiki. Hopefully though anything new we create (and in editing older documents) can adhere to something along the lines of that page - as thorough and with a certain degree of professionalism as we can make it (the latter makes a world of difference when someone reading the page makes a judgment call about how trustworthy they perceive what they are reading to be... on this same note, obviously, being both factual and objective are key).
Carisoprodol has
NO resources on here, btw -- and it produces a
severe abstinence syndrome, not unlike barbiturates--w/ symptomatic epilepsy & convulsions! I posted the question to spark discussion in TDS some time ago (I used to be a regular poster/contributor over there when B9 & Ishtar_Isis were regular posers & moderators).. BUT, to no avail 8) ..So I think some information on this would be helpful.[/QUOTE]
Although we currently wish that major contributions initially be provided to the moderators for inclusion on the actual Wiki site itself, I
strongly encourage you to post/PM me
anything you've got that you think would make an addition to
any page - and, of course per this discussion, regarding the creation of entirely new pages, too! I love that you are embracing the spirit of collectivism that is the nucleus of what a Wiki is, AO. I really look forward to hearing from you soon about all of these ideas.
Your post made me
~ vaya