daddysgone
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Hey all
I just want to add that the new generic subutex pills contain a filler called crospovidone. This substance is unfortunately water soluble, and wiki has the following to say about it:
It is used as a binder in many pharmaceutical tablets[3]; it simply passes through the body when taken orally. However, autopsies have found that crospovidone does contribute to pulmonary vascular injury in substance abusers who have injected pharmaceutical tablets intended for oral consumption.[4
So.....it looks like this bugger will get past even a micron filter since it is water soluble, and this quote seems to suggest that it is not something you want to be injecting.
See, its stuff like this that concerns me when using a micron filter. When using these wheel filters you tend to assume that you are filtering out all of the bad stuff, but no filter is going to filter out water soluble substances, and clearly there are water soluble substances (like this one) that are not good to shoot.
Also, the original subutex as well as suboxone do not have crospovidone in it, but they do have a substance called povidone k30, which is clearly a related substance. Povidone k30 is also water soluble and I wonder if it has the same health issues when injected that the related crospovidone does. Anyone have any info on this?-DG
I just want to add that the new generic subutex pills contain a filler called crospovidone. This substance is unfortunately water soluble, and wiki has the following to say about it:
It is used as a binder in many pharmaceutical tablets[3]; it simply passes through the body when taken orally. However, autopsies have found that crospovidone does contribute to pulmonary vascular injury in substance abusers who have injected pharmaceutical tablets intended for oral consumption.[4
So.....it looks like this bugger will get past even a micron filter since it is water soluble, and this quote seems to suggest that it is not something you want to be injecting.
See, its stuff like this that concerns me when using a micron filter. When using these wheel filters you tend to assume that you are filtering out all of the bad stuff, but no filter is going to filter out water soluble substances, and clearly there are water soluble substances (like this one) that are not good to shoot.
Also, the original subutex as well as suboxone do not have crospovidone in it, but they do have a substance called povidone k30, which is clearly a related substance. Povidone k30 is also water soluble and I wonder if it has the same health issues when injected that the related crospovidone does. Anyone have any info on this?-DG