Only time a suspected aduterated hasj was smoked by me and a friend was when we would have a zone out moment of a few hours. We were both pretty stupid stoners at that point smoking grams of hydroweed in a session without probs. This one joint stuffed with this so called sputnik/ spoetnik hasj which was totally unlike the previously mentiooned temple ball stuff. Which I would assume would be how opiated hasj would look dark flowery and soft. This shit supposedly from sovjiet union was rockhard grey/ greenish dark and was very hard to crumble.
What made me think it was different was they way it affected us both. Neither of recalls falling a sleep, which we didn't but we most certainly didn't speak eather We had no recollection of what was on tv or what happened between smoking it and looking at each other five hours later. Was very expensive stuff most pricey piece I ever encountered.
1. What I would like to know is what kind of hash is most likely to be opiated? (ex: what region/country, etc) East Europian im one exp
2. How do you really know that you have opiated hash? What effects do you get? Is it hard to tell since some hashes like Afghani for example are very strong enough on their own? Didn't get us stoned just blanked my memory and had both of us in a trance like state (nod) for five hours, because our tolerance for thc was very high there seemed no noticeable regular stoned effects just the wiped out timeframe
3. Also, how common is opiated hash, in your experience? Very very uncommon, once in a lifetime event.
4. What is opiated hash...I mean what kind of opiates may be in it? (ex: opium? brown tar? etc) ? no clue but the smoke wasn't exceptionally bad
5. Would a person with an opiate habbit as well as a weed habbit be able to tell the difference *like that* if his hash was opiated or not? To many if's but it should at least prevent withdrawal symtoms of opioids i guess
Me & a friend zoned out for a few hours in Amsterdam after mixing a gram of Royal Temple Ball with a couple of grams of Northern Lights, in two big joints. We'd smoked a few grams of weed earlier that day & failed to get stoned as much as we did the day before off some super strong English weed, so we hit the hash, that worked. We both stumbled back to the hotel & stared at the wall silent for a couple of hours at least. It was just a high dose indica cannabis effect though, nothing like any opiate I've had really, maybe a similar kind of floaty feeling, but I'd feel it in my stomach, taste it & get constipated if it was opium. I never really nodded off or felt drowsy at all either, was just like being stuck in a trance & had a psychedelic/dissociative feel, like when I've eaten too much hash. Any person with any experience of too much cannabis edibles & also opiates could tell the difference easily, it'd probably made an opiate novice sick.
Some people have made opiated hash for their own personal use, but it's a myth that it's made & sold in bulk, opium is too expensive. I'm not going to believe it until I see it confirmed by a lab. Same reason you wont see hash or weed cut with cocaine or heroin. Cheap hash can be cut with lots of nasty things that you don't want to smoke, but never anything more expensive than hash.
Some people smoke some hash stronger than they've ever had before, get really stoned & then say it must have been opiated because they got so stoned. Got to remember the best hash can be 4x stronger or more than even really good hydro weed. The best hashes are in the 40-70% THC range, if it's an import hash, or flowered for a little too long, then some of the THC may have degraded to more sedating cannabinoids, or some types of plants naturally produce more of these, particularly indica strains from around india, afghanistan, pakistan, nepal.
I've had similar effects & even stronger from some G13 backcross plant that I grew years ago, I know for a fact there was no opium in that hash because I grew the plant & made the hash myself. I think I flowered it for a week too long, as I had other plants that weren't ready & the buds were a bit light on it. It was too strong & sedating for me, made me stagger & slur my words like I was really drunk, or totally zoned me out if I smoked a bit too much.
Different types of weed & hash, as well as different strengths can feel like totally different drugs, there are quite a few different psychoactive cannabinoids that work in combination & different types of cannabis have different ratios of these cannabinoids. It can even feel like totally opposite effects, some can be stimulating, trippy & anxiety inducing, others can be really stoning, almost like opiates without such a dark side.
