While i agree that one must be careful in terms of dosing, i think the few comments here that state that there is a tiny difference between a recreational dose and a lethal dose, are greatly exaggerated. I agree that one should carefully dose 1,4 using an oral syringe and that one should start with a dose of around 2ml, perhaps a bit less. That said, i really do not believe that a dose of 6-7ml would be a lethal dose or one likely do result in coma. It very likely will cause dizziness and other unpleasant effects, but i think that calling this a lethal dose is an exaggeration. that said, again, i URGE anyone taking 1,4 to dose using precise measurement (oral syringe), and to definitely start with a dose of 2 ml or less.
Now, regarding the effects of 1,4. While it is true that 1,4 is converted to GHB, by no means are its effects identical to GHB or GBL. Most people, including me, find that 1,4 is a much "dirtier" and "more toxic" feeling experience then that of GHB or GBL. The reason for these differences in effect, i believe are due to the fact that while 1,4 is indeed converted to GHB, 1,4 has psychoactive effects of its own. So even though 1,4 is converted to GHB, its effects are by no means identical, due to the fact that it produces its own effects when ingested.
I find that 1,4 tends to upset my stomach, and is far more likely to cause dizziness and nausea. I really find it to be a poor substitute for either GHB or GBL, which tend to feel much "cleaner" and cause fewer side-effects.
That said, it is of course, similar in its effects to both GHB and GBL, but IMO, less euphoric and considerably "nastier"- if that makes any sense.
