Whatchamacallit
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Muscle Does Not Turn To Fat
Whatchamacallit said:OT but...
750-1000mg of test for a first (second or even third) cycle is completely unnecessary.
8 weeks at 500mg EW (divided into (2) 250mg doses) is always the standard, recommended "beginner cycle".
Remember the purpose of using test and test only first cycle is to see how one's body reacts to exogenous testosterone.
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Whatchamacallit said:Muscle Does Not Turn To Fat
baby boy said:thats a good question has anyone had much experience with clomid and nolvadex iv never used them as i havn't had much probs with sustanon ?
baby boy said:what is advisable for for say a male
25-27 yrs old
height 6,2
weight 120 kg
build solid
been training for 8 years on and off probably 3 months off every year
has done gear all kinds before but not had a good diet to match
is overweight ny bout 10 kg at the moment
want to loose weight and bulk at the same time
PARooolller said:Would nolvedex and clomid be sufficient enought PCT for a first cycle?
My source doesn't have HCG injections
also explain armidex and proviron---do I need to add these to my protocol?
VictorZ06 said:Yes. Nolva and clomid are the bare essentials. You could actually just run the clomid alone as I have done several times in the past.
You will need some kind of anti-e while running and I believe proviron works the best, it also increases libido and gives me morning wood every day. Both you and your pecker will love the stuff!
You will need to use it throughout the entire cycle, preferably 2 weeks after during post as well. Average dose is 50mg a day. Double that if using high doses.
Armidex is great stuff if you are retaining a lot of water. You don't NEED HCG, but it does help you get back to normal easier when post time comes. I use it because I run higher than average doses.
PARooolller said:Let's see some pics in ou pic forum Victor!!! you seem to have some knowledge on AAS.....Thanks for the input on PCT...Unlike some people, I'm making sure to get my PCT protocol lined up and ordered before the actual gear.
VictorZ06 said:Smart move. Don't ever start a program without having everything you need on hand. It's foolish to start when you don't have everything you need....your supplier may run out, mail can get lost, etc. If that happens, your cycle gets all fucked up.
I've been BB for 12 years, never competed though. Simply never had the time to give it 100% with work and all. I know a fair amount about AS, I've been using them for over a decade and I have seen results of others using different programs. I am by far not a "Mr. Know It All", but I'm usually rather accurate when it comes to putting a proper program together as I have helped many others in the past.
Pics? I'd put ya all to shame!! lol %)
kingofthegonzo said:From personal experience, I would recommend the fluid from the anal gland of a full grown tom cat.