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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Gabapentin

It is used to treat epilepsy and fibromyalgia, however is used off label for anxiety as well.

Yes I know. I was saying that because the person I quoted said that it caused her to have a seizure, and I was saying that I can't possibly imagine how a drug used to treat epilepsy could cause a seizure.
 
At which dose of pregabalin did you experience these effects?

450mg...however I had a little tolerance when I first experienced the MDMA-type feeling at that dosage. Thats a very high dose for someone without a tolerance, they would likely just feel drunk and black-out.

I must specify that when I compare the effects of MDMA, I'm talking about the empathetic, social, out-going, "closeness" feeling. Gives off a very fuzzy feeling that makes you feel like your walking on the clouds. Basically MDMA without the stimulate effects. The effects are also longer and it takes longer for it to kick in.
 
Gabapentin is a weird ass drug. It can be very trippy mentally at times. Lower doses seem to work much better IMO . I remember getting FUCKED UP from 600mgs.

The weird thing about it is that the first time is the best, and after that, it seems to not do much...

-lenses
 
first time was epic.

stagger your doses for best absorption.. say ~400mg every half hour.

I'd call the headspace very dissociative, sorta like DXM almost without the fry or trip. i get mdma like tingles/rushes in my triceps, thighs, and back muscles, rest of my body very ghost like and while not numb, very unnoticable. I get a lovely head buzz sorta like carisopdal. I agree with some posters that it feels similiar to baclofen.

This is a downer high that doesn't aggravate gaba tolerance... at least so far in my trials.

Takes 2.5 hours to peak!

High doses (say.. 2 grams over 5 hours) gives me mild visuals.. color enhancement, and objects will "flow."
 
Gabapentin never produced anything that I would claim a "high". My first time I got a mild head rush and thats about all.

Pregabalin is by far the better of the two GABA analogues. Lyrica has effect on the alpha subunits of GABA (GABA-A) while Gabapentin does not. Not to mention it is also 3-4 times more potent as well.
 
Seems to have very different ranges of effects on various people. Most seem to say it's only worth combining benzos with (which I always did anyway), yet I've seen a guy in rehab on a pharmaceutical dose of gabapentin who looked fucking intoxicated, really not sober at all, off this. He didn't hoard either, you have to take the pills in front of staff and open your mouth, move around your tongue.

He seemed to have pretty brutal withdrawals (stupid staff didn't taper him). Wonder how closely related it is to other GABA-related withdrawals like benzo and alcohol.
 
Gabapentin (especially when combined w/ weed) can actually be very euphoric and even can have CEVs that rival what one might see on a low dose of acid or mushrooms, although don't expect brilliant fractal patterning or anything like that. I find the GBP body-high (and there is actually a minor "body-load" component as well) to actually be quite similar to the physical feeling of stimulant-psychedelics, something like a low dose of 2C-I.

My recommendation:

Take 1800+ mg, smoke a bunch of weed, and lay back in a dark room with a good music playlist.
 
Anyone have advise on combining it with tramadol? Tram is a little weird so I will probably avoid it, but I wonder if anyone has any experience?
 
How does it compare to Soma or Phenobarbital? I don't get euphoria from pheno but I do from Soma.


Does it work in the same way benzos, barbs do?
 
^ The exact mechanism of action is unknown, but it does have some effect on GABA synthesis in the brain and probably works via voltage dependent ion channels in your CNS... do some googling and some research into neuropharmacology and you might get a better idea.
 
Gabapentin (especially when combined w/ weed) can actually be very euphoric and even can have CEVs that rival what one might see on a low dose of acid or mushrooms

My recommendation:

Take 1800+ mg, smoke a bunch of weed, and lay back in a dark room with a good music playlist.
A couple weeks ago I would have said you were crazy (and I take it quite often, my girl has half a dozen scripts) but I found out about the cev's by accident. Usually gabapentin acts more like a stimulant for me, although nothing like amphetamines. People actually do useful shit on gabapentin, on meth you think you're gonna get stuff accomplished but end up just watching porn and taking apart lawnmowers. But anyway, yeah I had never noticed the visuals because I never thought to look, but they're real.
 
I dont know how anyone can experience any high or euphoria fropm gabapentin. It has two good uses IMO, first it can be used as a potentiator, but most of all in very high doses it can fight opiate withdrawal, especially the severe sides such as sickness and nausea. Dont get it wrong though if youre a heavy user like me, it isnt a cure for opiate withdrawal, it can lessen the effects, it will still be a bitch though, just less of one.
 
Tramadol and Gabapentin is a good combo..... Gabapentin mixes with it well for 2 reasons:
1. Its a neurotic pain medication
2. It raises your seizure tolerance which is good cause tramadol lowers your seizure tolerance.

So GL and be safe
 
I dont know how anyone can experience any high or euphoria fropm gabapentin. It has two good uses IMO, first it can be used as a potentiator, but most of all in very high doses it can fight opiate withdrawal, especially the severe sides such as sickness and nausea. Dont get it wrong though if youre a heavy user like me, it isnt a cure for opiate withdrawal, it can lessen the effects, it will still be a bitch though, just less of one.

You are somewhat correct. I get 90 Percocet a month (7.5/500). I'm suppose to take 3 a day for them to last the whole month. Last month I was taking like 5 a day so I ran out early. I started to rummage through my moms medicine cabinet and all I could find was Tylenol 4's (60mg codeine/300mg apap), and gabapentin 600mg.

Believe it or not, the gabapentin helped my withdrawal better than the codeine, and gave me a better euphoric buzz. =D
 
Just as a side note.... I've been using gabapentin as part of my w/d management for the past 4 days now, coming off a CT detox from pods. It's done a great job managing the kicks, and as far as I can tell the chills too.
I've been using pregabalin for the past few months, which really is 12x stronger than gabapentin (lol), and I would've used that for managing w/d, but because I'm a madman when it comes to chasing a high, I gobbled all of my 30day script in about 5days just for the high instead, before deciding to kick all of my opiates. Pregabalin in my case is far preferrable than gabapentin. During that five-day span, I ate maybe 5 pods. But that was just out of the desire to see if I could get a little higher, not out of a need for junk.
Anyways, I've been downing between 1200 & 2400mg of it whenever my legs start twitching. I also have recourse to flexeril and baclofen (skeletal muscle relaxers), but those tend to knock me flat (flexeril more so than baclofen). My sleep schedule is already jacked up, and I have chronic low BP anyways, so I've really been trying to stay off of any kind of muscle-relaxer or benzo because my BP always tanks whenever I'm in acute w/d.
2400mg give/take 300mg seems to be the plateau for gabapentin's psychoactive effects, and that's only for a day or two. Gabapentin and pregabalin both build up in the bloodstream and stay there, so trying to take any more than that is a waste as the body just excretes the excess unchanged.
As far as gabapentin being used by itself recreationally.... eh. Drink some beers or smoke some bud, and be happier.
Note: I was originally put on gabapentin as part of my pain-management program for my nerve & back damages sustained in Iraq. While originally intended for use in treatment of epilepsy, the Army docs have been using it to treat nerve pain for a while now. I just wish they hadn't decided to stick me on morphine as well.
 
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How about mixing gabapentin with tramadol and valium?

I've mixed two of three, but was thinking of 1500 gaba, 200 tramadol and 15 val.

My tolerance and experience is high, and am 6'7, 240lbs.
 
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