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    my dad has basically fucked all his veins, they wont supply him with diamorphine as they think he will cause more damage too his vains but he wants to smoke the dry amps not inject them, but they wont have it, drug councellors can be fuckers sometimes ..

    Anyways on to my question, in theory if you left the hydrocholride solution to evaportate you could vaporise it ? Has anyone tried this before, i really want too find a method for my dad because he IM'ing at the moment and that methadone i dont think is good for his muscles.. especially the whole 150mg he injects every day
     

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    For gods sake tell him to just drink it. PLEASE.
     

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    he throws it up whatever he puts him down him, i will repeat it isnt the linctus it is actual ampules .. he needs a method of administration that is gonna cause the least problems possible, smoking methadone is probably not going to work. they tried him on fentanyl patches, they didnt work at all. His tolerance is sky high
     

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    Rectal?
     

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    what kind of solution is the 'done in?
     

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    You can certainly snort dried methadone. Dry-amps of diamorphine hydrochloride don't smoke well, but snorting them or rectal route work just fine.
     

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    think he gonna try it out with 60mg. Try 40 at first see if it does anything.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by haribo1
    You can certainly snort dried methadone. Dry-amps of diamorphine hydrochloride don't smoke well, but snorting them or rectal route work just fine.
    We're talking METHADONE hydrocloride & it smokes very well.
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    what doses did u find good b9?
     

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    if only my dad felt like you, should i try divert him into psychedelics, could that kick kis habit? i very much doubt it
     

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    ^Crush a microdot or 3 into his bag... just joking.
     

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    if only he did have a bag its all amps or nothing with him nowadays which sort of relieves me, still a secret i dont like people knowing tbh
     

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    So, to be clear, he gets 3x 50mg/ml 1ml ampules per day?

    It should be very easy to dry off 1ml to smoke 50mg. I don't know the relative bioavailability of smoking vs injecting, but it's got to be worth a go (I almost said worth a shot.... god, kill me now).
     

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    ^It's superior to injecting methadone 1mg/ml solution for certain.
     

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    ^And there is the answer...
     

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    Is it possibe to convert oral methadone liquid into a powder?
     

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    ^No. Into goo, yes.
     

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    ^ Depends upon what the constituents are surely?

    That green SUGARY shite no way - but chloroform water + methadone htdrochloride - surely yes.
     

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    ^There is always other stuff in there. Preservatives and so on. It's no longer made up at the chemist (at least not in Manchester), it comes in huge bottles. Green or yellow, still crap in there. The BNF doesn't list the other stuff, but says 'in a suitable vehicle' so I imagine there is a moped in there some where...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wh0re
    Is it possibe to convert oral methadone liquid into a powder?
    Yes, but it involves doing acid/base extractions etc - it's not just a matter of evaporating off the water. Even the 'sugar free' stuff is unsuitable as 'sugar free' just means that they've replaced the sugar with sorbitol, whch as haribo mentioned, will still end up as goo.


    Sorry to sound harsh, but he's simply going to have to use it in a non parenteral way (ie no injecting) or detox as once they've decided that you're not going to get amps anymore ( be it methadone or diamorphine ), I've never heard of them reversing that decision
     

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    ^ Ha! What a beautiful plan. Unfortunately, I think you'll perhaps also need an extensive medical history detailing many years of addiction, detox and relapse to go along with your positive blood test and lack of trackmarks. Ridiculous, I know, but what with Health & Safety and all that...

    Quote Originally Posted by B9
    ^ Nope I used to get 'clear' comprising chloroform water + 500mgs of methadone hcl per bottle - that was it, no fucking additives - scouts honour!
    Me too - tis one of the few advantages of living out in the sticks - so much nicer than the syrup. Never occured to me to dry & smoke it though, but I presume it's not worth inducing a relapse for?

    On a slightly related note, I used to know a guy who would inject 300ml of sticky green 'done at least three times daily. Rarely have I seen such a heartbreaking and repulsive sight - not something to be recommended. Unless, of course, you're looking for a particularly slow and nasty form of suicide.
     

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    Even the 'sugar free' stuff is unsuitable as 'sugar free' just means that they've replaced the sugar with sorbitol, whch as haribo mentioned, will still end up as goo.

    Wrong - the mass produced "suger free" stuff certainly has other additives - my chemist made it up as I previously described.
     

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