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Slipped/herniated disc and bursitis.....what pain meds are used to treat this?

You can get pain medicine, you just might have to work your way up. However these people are right when they say sometimes you are even in more pain taking opiate narcotics.
 
yiggy said:
oh just a random post i found of yours from the beginning of this month.....



also its extremely wierd that u didnt mention throwing out ur back while slipping on grease flooded floors in ur first post....i think that was pretty pertinent.

Yeap, that is correct. . Occasionally i get a bag or 2. I used that shit maybe 4 times in the past 2 months. Hardly "on drugs."

Now tho, wit that last line youre just makin me hold back from laughing. What is this, Internet Back Injury Legitimacy Court? LOL. I dont give a fuck if you believe me or not, the fact is still gonna be that Im the one that gotta live wit this shit. As far as your stunning detective work about my oh so suspicious "not writing the entire history behind this injury in full detail to save space" error .....Well to be straight up I kept shit to a minimum cuz wasnt counting on antagonistic assholes to come out of the woodwork and attempt to throw a calm discussion into some flame territory.:)

I like your lil "If i was your doctor, you wouldnt get SHIT!" shtick. Good thing you aint, Internet Dr. Yiggy. Go get your jollies somewhere else, you aint gonna derail this thread with your juvenile bullshit.

Anyways......

Alec, yea, i realize that. Dont get it twisted like alot of people are seemin to do, if you read what I been sayin, I want to do everything I can to relieve what Im feelin even if that aint drugs. I was jus curious to see what drugs are used for this. Anything that can be beneficial Im down for, i just asked this related to drugs since obviously OD aint a place where you say "Do you think this will need physical therapy?" ya dig. Hope that clears it up a lil.
 
lacey k said:
Yeap, that is correct. . Occasionally i get a bag or 2. I used that shit maybe 4 times in the past 2 months. Hardly "on drugs."

Now tho, wit that last line youre just makin me hold back from laughing. What is this, Internet Back Injury Legitimacy Court? LOL. I dont give a fuck if you believe me or not, the fact is still gonna be that Im the one that gotta live wit this shit. As far as your stunning detective work about my oh so suspicious "not writing the entire history behind this injury in full detail to save space" error .....Well to be straight up I kept shit to a minimum cuz wasnt counting on antagonistic assholes to come out of the woodwork and attempt to throw a calm discussion into some flame territory.:)

I like your lil "If i was your doctor, you wouldnt get SHIT!" shtick. Good thing you aint, Internet Dr. Yiggy. Go get your jollies somewhere else, you aint gonna derail this thread with your juvenile bullshit.

Anyways......

Alec, yea, i realize that. Dont get it twisted like alot of people are seemin to do, if you read what I been sayin, I want to do everything I can to relieve what Im feelin even if that aint drugs. I was jus curious to see what drugs are used for this. Anything that can be beneficial Im down for, i just asked this related to drugs since obviously OD aint a place where you say "Do you think this will need physical therapy?" ya dig. Hope that clears it up a lil.

wow way to turn my good intentions around.....

obviously u didnt get the point of my posts....i was trying to show u the inconsistencies of ur own statements where it seems to me ur trying to legitamize ur own preconceived notions that u(and i quote)"need opiates".

but whatever dont take my advice because again that is all it is, advice.

and how can u say that using heroin weekly is not being on drugs? i know for a fact that merely months ago u were talking about how bad heroin was and that u were soooo stupid for using it in ur past, etc, etc....apparently all that changed.

see the pattern?

its ur mind not ur body IMO

not saying there isnt a phsyical ailment that is furthering ur pain, but...........

oh and when people get defensive that usually means u were hittin a button :)
 
and ur right, if i was a doctor i wouldnt give u anything except a small script of percocets(#30 7.5/325) to last u until u made it into a specialist NOT a pain doctor.
 
yiggy said:
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oh and when people get defensive that usually means u were hittin a button :)

Yea, you are a real master of psychology there. That statement should read: When people correct incorrect things you say, it usually means they are incorrect.

your "advice" consists of suggesting that I am lying about havin a injury or trauma that caused a injury, and questioning the integrity of what Im goin thru. I would hardly call that shit advice.

I never seen someone so eager to try and proove someone else they dont even know wrong , in a situation where they dont even know whats going on. Passin judgement on others is a full time job for you I see.

Why every thread in OD related to injuries always turns into a "You aint really got a injury" shit talking contest is beyond me. It sounds more like a guilty conscience speaking than advice. That is the last time Ima post back to your flame-baiting ass. Enjoy your sense of superiority.
 
Hi Lacey,

I think age has a lot to do with the treatment plan. Doctors tend to NOT want to give opiates to young people.

I am 53 years old and have 4 disks herniated. I have been treated at a hospital pain clinic since 2002. Several times per year, they give me a lumbar injection with steroids and it helps a lot. They script the following for me:

Kadian (time release morphine) 30 mg. x 2 per day
Percocet 10 mg. x 4 per day
Soma or Skelaxin as much as needed.
Xanax .5 mg. x 3 per day
Ritalin 10 mg. x 6 per day.

Prior to treatment at the pain clinic, my family doctor had scripted Hydrocodone 10 mg. x 4 to 6 per day and sometimes Oxy since 1993 when the problems started.

I think age and patient appearance have a lot of effect on the doctor's attitude.

Good luck with your back. Even with 4 herniated disks, I have learned a lot about exercise that helps avoid the worst situations with pain.

Willie
 
^^Well ya know what, while pain meds might be a quick fix I know that at the end of it all, the truth is I would rather not be on that shit longterm , I jus feel like right now Ima go crazy w/out some kind of releif but that aint necessarily gota come from pills, I just want the bottom line of feeling better, dont care how i get there. I know too many people around me whose lives are miserable wrecks becuz of too much opiate use too soon in a pain condition and pretty much cant even feel releif now with massive doses of pills. i know i dont want that to be me.

I know that cuz I asked about pills, its comin off like that is what I am specificaly 'seeking' but to be real, I would rather save that shit for having fun once in a while than be chained to it the rest of my life. I would be happy with the treatment that works best and I dont look down on none of that shit, I guess its jus frustrating to think about all this bending n flexing n shit to relieve it, when i can barely do that beCAUSE of the pain, ya feel me. But, I do trust that whatever happens happens for a reason and that Ima do what I gotta, in order to fix that shit, whether it involves prescriptions or not. I really appreciate the advice from the older n wiser heads on here who been thru it alot cuz to me that is the most accurate, so thanx for your post Will.
 
If you are an abuser you could get a decent script for Suboxone (buprenorphine being the active opioid) which has been shown to be very effective in the treatment of pain. Plus most docs won't let you stay on it forever. Its effect on pain is as good as pure opioids. Its high is not. Many people may confuse the two, especially chronic pain patients who are also addicts.
 
^^I been on suboxone for a while actually. In november i started on that shit off n on and stayed on by the beginning of december. At first it worked, I started out on 2mg and went from there to 4 at the highest, I prolly coulda took more but i wanted to make what i had last (it wasnt from a dr.) so i would take 2-4mg about every 24-36 hrs, tryin to stretch it out as much as possible and only takin it for work when i needed it the most. In the beginning it did help a good amount but lately it just aint doin shit and thats when i started realizin that I needed to see a doctor becuz all the self medicatin aint helpin and i need to see what the real problem is and what to do about it. Ive talked to alot of people on sub and we all seem to have mad different experiences which seem to be the norm wit suboxone. Good lookin out tho for the heads up.

I never been in rehab or known to be a drug seeker, I never had a damn thing scripted to me except one time like 3 years ago when i had a bad ass case of pneumonia and got codeine syrup, and another time when i had a ovarian cyst that busted in the ER and i got 12 5mg vics for it. Im one of them "Ill deal wit it myself" people until this got too outta hand for me to be able to do that, So I dont think introducin myself to a doc. as "abuser" is the best of plans, prolly do more harm than good. If i had a sketchy record with mad doctor visits and attempts at gettin pills then i would def. look at that like "lets be up front with this" but Im legit so I aint tryna make myself look sketch by talkin about abuse to a doctor, ya kno? I dont know....Shit is mad confusing....
 
so wait u consider urself clean even though ur on daily suboxone and weekly heroin/oxy user?

wtf

also u dont think that it was important to mention that ur on suboxone daily?

wow just wow and this girl is a MOD?
 
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I have a family member that has Degenerative Disk Disease and is in severe chronic pain 24/7! He has had the disease for about 8-9 years. They (the doctors) started him out on morphine sulphate and some other opiate based pain killer. He was on that for a little bit before trying methadone, fentanyl patches, and finally the wonderful oxycodone! Oxy is the only medication that REALLY works for his pain, he takes Oxycontin 2/80mg tabs and Roxicodone 5/30mg tabs daily. He also has RLS and bad nerve pain which he takes xanax 3/2mg pills a day and lyrica for nerve pain!

I'm surprised that most of you people in pain only get norcos, vics, and percs! No offence but those meds FUCKING SUCK for pain and rec.

The meds that work real good for pain and the ones you should be aiming for are Morphine (avinza, kadian, ms-sontin), Oxycodone ER (oxycontin) IR (Roxicodone, oxydose, oxyfast), Fentanyl (duragesic patches and actiq lollipops), Hydromorphone (dilaudid, dilaudid hp) and Oxymorphone (opana and opana ER).

If you can find a doctor that knows what the fuck they are doing they will put you on an extended release tab (for around the clock pain) and an instant release tab (for breakthrough pain)! hope i could help...
 
why would any doctor worth their salt automatically put you on a highly addictive pain killer regime without even knowing the source of the pain?

especially when she is only 20 years old....
 
OxyMorph, Well, thats some good information but to be real, I dont want to go down that way. I see it like this. If i got a problem wit this now at this age and went right onto stronger meds like that, what is left over for when I get older and the pain is worse and my tolerance is higher? Ya feel me?

Yea, what Im feelin right now is causin significant impact on my life and what i can/cant do, but at the same time, there is people out there who im sure are in way worse pain than I am. Plus , meds dont fix a problem only mask it. I want to fix the root of the problem but be able to function normally while i am gettin there which is why i was askin the original question to begin with. Yea, sure what opiate user would not be happy to get a script for actiq or dilly's or whatever, but know what, i aint playin myself, I know that level aint necessary yet and would rather leave those kinda things as "the big guns" for later on down the road if this ish dont get no better and hopefully I wouldnt have to go down that road at all.

Plus, I dont think any doctor that wasnt generous would give that kinda thing to this level of injury to begin with, I aint no doctor but even i can see that aint really necessary and would prolly be more harmful than helpful. On the real, bein on that level of medication for longterm, is a shitty thing all in all even if it might be fun to somebody who aint using it medically. If i was to get a script you best believe that shit would be serious, becuz partying=running out=pain all over again. I would be a lot more happy to be on some kind of low dose meds that could make day to day shit more bearable than get high for two weeks, you feel me? If i want to get high i can go buy that shit somewhere. What I cant do, is afford to keep buyin shit on the daily to make work possible. which is why I decided to take it outta my own hands and get some help from wherever it can come from.
 
ok my advice:

next time u come asking for which medications u may get for ur pain, you should also mention if you are already taking an opiate especially one such as buprenorphine which WILL cause complications.


for all my other stuff, go re-read it, it was all good advice just because i wasnt on the "pREScrib3 h3R 5oMe OxYcoNtIn5" bandwagon its criticism.......

and sorry about the moderator comment but it had to be said, you know it too bro
 
I am not on daily suboxone. I got off it a while ago. after I was done getting off oxy. I aint on nothing daily. I use dope and oxys occasionally. i cant afford it. I am clean off all drugs as far as addiction dependence or daily use goes. I consider that "clean."

Does that make you feel any better, Question King?
 
oh actually sorry i didnt see where u said off by december.

i apologize.


i dont get why u have to take my advice personally....im just relaying to you some personal experiences with pain at a young age.

do what u please but im glad ur realizing that it some pain now isnt worth the pain of being addicted to an opiate the rest of your life....try any other possible routes before going on pain meds. like i said, try and get a small script of something to hold you over until you can get a proper diagnosis run.
 
OxyMorph said:
If you can find a doctor that knows what the fuck they are doing they will put you on an extended release tab (for around the clock pain) and an instant release tab (for breakthrough pain)! hope i could help...

From 1993 to 2002 my family doctor treated my herniated disks with Lortab (Hydro) or Percocet. The short acting meds. did NOT work nearly as well as the combo. suggested by OxyMorph.

In 2002 I began seeing a anesthesiologist and he switched me to a time released narcotic, to try and keep an even dose of medicine in my body, plus Percocet for "breakthru pain". My current treatment plan -- Kadian (morphine time release) plus percocet 10 mg. -- works well for me, even with 15 years of heavy pain med. use. (I took a break in 2003 and 2004 for a short time).

Lacey, if you are going to see a pain management doctor, you should expect to be drug tested. I suggest NOT taking any meds. your doctor does NOT know about. (Not only from the medical danger standpoint, but it may queer your relationship with the pain management doctor and cause them NOT to treat you).

IMO you are doing the right thing to have an Xray and/or MRI to find out what is wrong and get the proper treatment. Depending on the problem, they may be able to find the nerve involved and give you 1 to 5 injections that numb the nerve and eliminate the problem. My wife has a herniated disk and got lucky and it "healed" (stopped hurting) with several injections, so even if you have herniated disk(s), that does NOT mean you have to take meds. for life. Yiggy could even be right and its only muscle pain that will go away on its own.
 
Yep we will see. I doubt its muscle pain , cuz my doctor is a very old fashioned, anti medication, one of those old doc's who will try everything but meds and is very slow to diagnose anything. Shes a believer in only the most serious shit should get treated with seriousness, and mostly everything else will go away on its own, so Im pretty confident that its somethin goin on here that aint natural cuz she wouldnt order a xray or mri without a very good suspicion of somethin more than a lil wrong. But we will see. I would rather be able to have what you said your wife had and have it heal or whatever. lAs far as im concerned long term meds means long term INJURY too and who the hell wants to be feeling that forever.


Edit: For yiggy.

Thats what the hell Ive been saying the whole time dude. Cmon. I dont know how I coulda repeated that more. I dont WANT to be on shit long term. Everybody assumes when you come up in here that its like "YAAY! i got a serious injury that makes me miserable! The medication ima get that is necessary for me to live normally TOTALLY makes the fact that im a fuckin cripple not matter at all! I love being dependent on the thing I struggled so hard to kick!" 8( You feel me?

Post in OD about a injury and everyone thinks you wanna be hooked on a ball and fuckin chain for the rest of your life living half rate, not even gettin releif from the heavy duty meds that you are stuck with. That is the definition of a sad life to me. I seen too many people close to me do this and I seen the depression they live in and what it turned them into.

I just got OUT of bein a addict, I really dont want to get back into forced dependence. But, not bein able to stand proper, bend down, stand up from a sittin down position, or sit in a chair for more than 5 minutes is a pain in the ass so of course I want some short term script of anythign that could relieve those feelings, while i look into the other treatments I could get for this.I need to work to get by. I cant afford to not move at work. you slow down, youre beat. Its a fast paced ass busting job that is 100% physical labor. I need to be able to clean and clean FAST. I was like the top employee in my dept. until this shit happened. Now i can barely make a bed or clean a bathroom and i end up embarassin myself , tryin to work like i did before and gettin stuck, falling down, or yellin out without meaning to when I dont want nobody to know im "defective" now. U think I enjoy always being spastic, shakin around, my shoulders twitching from all the zaps of pain not even able to stand up right, lookin like a tweaker havin a mini seizure while standing up. Why do i keep going at work, becuz Im ashamed that Im gettin this weak and cant work my best. That job means so much to me aint no way I can lose it.

I aint "realizing" that I aint wanted longterm meds to go on. i never said i wanted that to begin with. It been realized since before I even posted this but certain peeps seemed to be more willing to assume and jump to conclusions than see that. So maybe that can help you understand why I am askin this now that you got my life history n shit. LOL.
 
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