Slipped/herniated disc and bursitis.....what pain meds are used to treat this?

[paradoxcycle]

i dont get why u have to take my advice personally....im just relaying to you some personal experiences with pain at a young age.

Because she doesn't want to hear it. She's not asking for your kind of advice. She's an intelligent person who is aware of the negative aspects of drug use. Get down from your soapbox.

 

[MethaContin]

do u really want to be on opiates the rest of ur life?

right now its the addict inside u telling u that u need opiates for ur pain....ur pain is being exaggerated by ur own bodys cravings for the opiates.

i am a chronic pain patient and have been opiate free for about 4 months.

my pain has dramatically improved! i have done nothing else to help it so what else could it be? no physical therapy, no exercise, nothing. my pain has not gotten better, but my body is no longer exaggerating it so that i feel i "need" pain medications. sure it sucks being in pain still, but atleast its not that completely sore feeling i got from either WDs or PAWs. muscular, skeletal, all of it hurt!

from being constantly in the range of 6-8 on the pain scale 24/7 for the past couple years, to at this moment feeling about 3 or 4 is a great improvement.

lacey ive read these boards enough to know that u havent been clean of opiates long enough to see if u can make it without them. im not saying ur making up ur pain or anything like that, but please believe me(coming from one of the biggest opiate users on here)that opiates can have a SIGNIFICANT impact on ur level of pain and its not always for the better. not to mention the power of the mind....why do u think when even a completely pain free person WDs from a strong opiate that they have alot of body aches and pains? there is no real physical reason for this that i am aware of(other than the fact that u may over do something WHILE on an opiate hurting urself more) it is purely physiological aka the mind controlling the body. it is a symptom that serves to further reinforce ur bodys addiction.

also, once u have been on opiate pain medications for atleast a year straight, u cant even tell they are working. u feel the pain all the time but the opiates just make it seem OK

id be willing to bet a wager nothing comes up on an xray or mri......................................................................................................................................................

I definatly agree. Good post yiggy!

 

[MethaContin]

If you are young and only have like one or 2 slipped or herniated discs, Most doctors (Even PM doctors) dont really just give you Narcotics, Usually they reccomend the DRX 9000 (Which has a 97% cure rate, I wonder why all back pain sufferers dont just use this machine 8)) or physical therapy. They will usually write you for NSAID's and Vicodin maybe one or two times, But than they will tell you ' Iam not writing this for you anymore (meaning the Vicodin)

 

[therightcoast]

I agree with a few people that have already posted, in the long run you really don't want to be a chronic pain med patient, it's not a good thing. Sure, you'll get some pk's now but if you think about it, to actually work for the pain you're going to have to take as directed so you won't be able to get off on the meds without running out of your script early each month, and that'll put you in a bad situation, as being put on daily pain meds you're gaurenteed addiction. And down the road you'll realize this isn't the best thing and you get tired of taking meds daily and needing them to be able to function normally and want to get off, then you'll have a problem.

 

[Khadijah]

Sure, youll get some pk's now, but if you think about it, to actually work for the pain you're going to have to take as directed so you won't be able to get off on the meds without running out of your script early each month

At this point, Im past gettin high, I aint even lookin for that, I could use other things if i wanted to get fucked up. I just want to know if there could be some kinda light at the end of this

Dude, i posted that a page before you hit the reply button to say that so, nuff sed. Readin the whole thread is important.

I dont know how many time I gotta repeat that I never said i wanted to be on shit long term, and specifically said that i DONT want to go that down path.

I dont want to go down that way.
meds dont fix a problem only mask it. I want to fix the root of the problem but be able to function normally while i am gettin there which is why i was askin the original question to begin with.

I. Dont. Want. Long. Term. Pain. Meds.
I dont want long term pain meds. I know that is a shitty life.
I dont want to be on pain medication long term.
I dont want a life dependent on pain medication.
I dont want to take pain medication as part of my every day life.
No quiera drogas por dolor lumbar por todos dios.


I dont want to get high out of this. Maybe yall do and thats the reason nobody can possibly understand that someone might want it for a legit use. i dont know. If i could take a pill, or a shot, or a treatment, that i wouldnt feel NOTHING psychoactive from, and it would make this go away completely? Id do it in a fuckin second. My goal is to be able to live normal again, not to get high. Dont insult me by assumin that. But my simple question was, What gets prescribed for this. Not "do you think i should take pills" "do you think i need pills" "what is your personal feelings on my condition" or whatever.

I feel like a prisoner in my own body and cant even do normal things, and yall wanna act like its all fun n games. I understand that people gonna be automatically skeptical of shit, esp. with all the newjacks on here who be frontin like they got hurt, or who purposely hurt themself for a quick script, which is some of the most twisted mentally disturbed shit I ever heard of. But on the real, all I got is my word as my bond, so thats gonna have to be good enough. believe it or dont. but its a dick move to think that you can understand whats in someone elses head, or that you would know better than they do, what they are really thinkin.

i would trade feeling like this and gettin a script, for havin a healthy back right now if i could. Bein disabled would totally ROCK if i had pills right? 8( A junkie would be happy to feel like this if it meant they can get high. I feel like a miserable pile of shit and wish I could feel like i did a year ago before all this started.

Hearin about all the different kind of options available been great, and most of the posters who replied definately helped out alot. But to all the people who aint bothering to read, and questioning the integrity of what Im talkin about, I hope you have a shitty accident, feel unbearable pain, and fuckin roam from doctor to doctor for the rest of your life with nobody ever believing you. Then you will be able to really talk holier than thou about how you dont want to be on long term pain meds so quit bitching and you should just stop feening cuz you know its just the junkie inside you and all you really want is to get high.

And jus to make it clear - I aint talkin to the majority of people who replied when i say that, just the ones who couldnt be bothered to read the whole thread and base their reply off that instead of other peoples misguided comments.

 

[Will01996]

When I first injured my back (lifting heavy lawn equipment into a truck), I was scared shitless. The pain would NOT go away and I had to hold on to walls and shit to stand up -- so I know exactly where you are coming from.

You just want it to go away, and lets face it, going to doctors, hospitals, MRI's, Xrays and all that crap is a bummer. I reached a point after the first couple of months, that I thought I was going to wind up in a wheel chair.

After about 60 days, some physical thereapy and steroids, about 80% of the pain was gone and life was bearable again. As soon as you know for sure what the deal is, it will feel a lot better on its own. (About the time I got really discouraged, it got a whole lot better). I had a lot of later health issues (stomach surgery) that caused my back problems to get much worse than they would have been.

I did NOT get the impression that you were looking to get pain meds out of this, but I think some of the posters responded without reading your original post.

Good luck with it and have a good weekend!

Willie

 

[plantguy]

I have a bad hip-The first time I went to a pain med doc they started me on
oxy 40 3 x a day after three weeks I was on 3 80s a day plus oxyDose and roxis 30 for breakthrough I was shocked at the amounts but happy. Now after 5 years I am on 6 100 ms contins per day and 12 roxicodone 30s per day plus msir 30s 150 per month in case and 4 bottles of oxydose 60cc 3 bottles. This doc that I go to is so free handed its amazing and anything I ask for to see if it works better I HAVE TRIED. Kinda scary at the same time. I of course dont take this much because its way too much but dont want to turn it down so my stock pile is growing if they every shut thus place down I will have a couple of years of backup:-0

 

[MethaContin]

If You want real help, look into The Crespo technique, or the DRX 9000. Or go to a Physical Therapist, They will improve pain symptoms GREATLY.

 

[MethaContin]

The Crespo Technique has been proven to take away all of the pain in 96% percent of the people, Why dont you try that?

PS - Some of the websites say that it cures 92% of people BUT THAT IS STILL A SHITLOAD OF BACK PAIN SUFFERERS, Its a very effective method.

 

[Khadijah]

id be willing to bet a wager nothing comes up on an xray or mri......................................................................................................................................................

Just for the record, I finally got my MRI's done and i got the results today...They said i got (copied from the form) facet arthrosis bilaterally L4-5 and L5-S1
and Slight Retrolisthesis at L4-5.

I dont really know nothing about those or what they mean, and it aint a herniated disc like the dr's thought it was but Im goin to a specialist tomorrow becuz I still got twitching and spasms of pain which has got alot worse , and they said that was strange n needed to get looked at.

Just thought Id update the thread with the new information n see if anyone had any ideas or help now that I actually know what it is.

 

[Missykins]

I am definately not overweight and im healthy. the doctor n x ray tech said that there aint no natural way i would be feelin this at this age and it aint common so that must mean theres somethin pretty legit goin on as far as this is concerned. I already been taking ibuprofen800s and it dont do a god damn thing. Exercise is kind of impossible becuz the pain hurts so much sometimes i cant even bend over or move in certain ways. right now, that would cause so much pain and most likely make it worse, so IDK....Im willin to do whatever i gotta do to take care of it but im just sayin that right now , pills seems like the only thing that helps.

You'll have to be open to physical therapy, chiropractor, acupuncture as well if you want to keep your drug use to how it is prescribed.

 

[lilczey]

my girl is taking these after her surgery vicodin, toradol, and perk 10's........

after them takin her rods out......right now

seems to work about 70% of the time

 

[MethaContin]

Did you ask your doctor about the DRX 9000 or Do You just want to be on a Painkiller Regimine????

 

[artaxerxes]

OK, no soapbox here. I'll just tell you my situation and what I think.

So, I injured my back at work when I was 20. Six months later, I was rear-ended. I got physical therapy, etc. a script of vikes.

Fast forward... I re-injured my back and kept aggravating it by working out on it and just generally being a toughass and ignoring the pain. I was diagnosed with a ruptured L4-L5 (disc nucleus was in the spinal canal), herniated L5-S1, some narrowing... Just some background so you can evaluate my input.

I know what you mean about your pain crippling you for work. It sounds as if you need some meds to calm the nerve so that you can get back to working. In my experience when the pain gets too bad to function, you can take vikes/percs for a couple of days, it chills the nerve out and you can go without meds for a few weeks.

Physical therapy saved my life. Seriously. I still do my exercises daily. But you have to get the right physical therapist otherwise you can aggravate your condition. And it's hard to find a good PT. PM me if you want more detailed info.

Taking the pain meds every day *does* make your pain worse after a while. You'll notice it. I just stop taking them for awhile (when I'm being compliant). If I don't, I get really gimped up. The whole old lady thing gets much worse, but I figure you'll know what to do about that.

It sounds like you'll get PT, lowdose opiates and Ibu, maybe Neurontin, which incidentally, did jackshit for me.

That's my .02.

 

[MethaContin]

OK, no soapbox here. I'll just tell you my situation and what I think.

So, I injured my back at work when I was 20. Six months later, I was rear-ended. I got physical therapy, etc. a script of vikes.

Fast forward... I re-injured my back and kept aggravating it by working out on it and just generally being a toughass and ignoring the pain. I was diagnosed with a ruptured L4-L5 (disc nucleus was in the spinal canal), herniated L5-S1, some narrowing... Just some background so you can evaluate my input.

I know what you mean about your pain crippling you for work. It sounds as if you need some meds to calm the nerve so that you can get back to working. In my experience when the pain gets too bad to function, you can take vikes/percs for a couple of days, it chills the nerve out and you can go without meds for a few weeks.

Physical therapy saved my life. Seriously. I still do my exercises daily. But you have to get the right physical therapist otherwise you can aggravate your condition. And it's hard to find a good PT. PM me if you want more detailed info.

Taking the pain meds every day *does* make your pain worse after a while. You'll notice it. I just stop taking them for awhile (when I'm being compliant). If I don't, I get really gimped up. The whole old lady thing gets much worse, but I figure you'll know what to do about that.

It sounds like you'll get PT, lowdose opiates and Ibu, maybe Neurontin, which incidentally, did jackshit for me.

That's my .02.

I definatly agree.

 

[Khadijah]

Did you ask your doctor about the DRX 9000 or Do You just want to be on a Painkiller Regimine????

No , (to the painkiller regime) that aint what I was lookin for. the object is to get the condition to be better not to get drugs, if there is drugs along the way Ill take em, but i was just curious on what to expect, not what some people seem to think like its all a big scam why would I be goin to a chiropractor or tryin alternate therapies if i was just tryna get drugs. im goin to a chiropractor to see if they can help me, I didnt go to the specialist dr. yet so that is who i would be talking to about the options for the treatment of it like usin that drx thing (what exactly is that anyways?)

Artaxerxes, thank you for that post it was the exact information I was lookin for. I know what you mean about usin meds alot makin the pain worse , the shit definately does. Im glad someone read the thread and understood where I was comin from becuz theres alot of misunderstanding and assuming goin on in here, so I appreciate your post more than you know.

 

[MethaContin]

No , (to the painkiller regime) that aint what I was lookin for. the object is to get the condition to be better not to get drugs, if there is drugs along the way Ill take em, but i was just curious on what to expect, not what some people seem to think like its all a big scam why would I be goin to a chiropractor or tryin alternate therapies if i was just tryna get drugs. im goin to a chiropractor to see if they can help me, I didnt go to the specialist dr. yet so that is who i would be talking to about the options for the treatment of it like usin that drx thing (what exactly is that anyways?)

Artaxerxes, thank you for that post it was the exact information I was lookin for. I know what you mean about usin meds alot makin the pain worse , the shit definately does. Im glad someone read the thread and understood where I was comin from becuz theres alot of misunderstanding and assuming goin on in here, so I appreciate your post more than you know.

The DRX 9000 is a Big Machine that you lay your whole body in and it fixes your back with / In Several Treatments. Than all of the pain is gone and your back gets better. When you see your MD make sure to ask for your Meds because Chiropractors dont prescribe meds if you need them.

If you need pain meds , you need em. It's like anything else, If your in pain you take the pill and it takes it aaway, Nobody should be ashamed of Opiate/Opioid pain treatment. Take care and I hope you stay pain free.



PS- The DRX dosent work for EVERYTHING, it can help, but it CURES herniated Discs and Slipped discs.

 

[Khadijah]

Yea, if you read the update for my MRI results, they thought it was a disc, but that actually aint the problem. I wish i could edit the title to update it what the real problem is, it is facet Arthrosis and a vertebrae out of alignment. I never heard of those things before but that is what the results said. That machine sounds pretty good there has been many times when i said i wish i could lay down and get stretched out becuz my back felt so compressed and tight. I would be interested to try that, thank you for the suggestions n your encouragement.

 

[MethaContin]

Yea, if you read the update for my MRI results, they thought it was a disc, but that actually aint the problem. I wish i could edit the title to update it what the real problem is, it is facet Arthrosis and a vertebrae out of alignment. I never heard of those things before but that is what the results said. That machine sounds pretty good there has been many times when i said i wish i could lay down and get stretched out becuz my back felt so compressed and tight. I would be interested to try that, thank you for the suggestions n your encouragement.

The DRX would be PERFECT for you, it actually DECOMPRESSES your back therefore, you will get that feeling of decompresion AND it will help the Vertabre that is out of alignment to get back aligned. If I were you I'd get some pain meds (Opiates) and do the DRX 9000, Take the Painkillers until the Several Treatments of the DRX are done, and you should feel ALOT better. Of course consult your doctor about this because i dont know about your other condition and the machine may Irritate it, so basically just talk with your Doctor about that one. I hope you get pain free or damn close too it!!!!!!