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    Now Ive heard that theres really no such thing as red rock opium and that all it is is Dragons Blood insense. Well I have a friend who keeps wanting to sell me this white opium. My question is what is this "white" opium. Is it just some bunk shit. Oh one more question I have is what should real opium look like? I know of black tar opium but is this the only kind? Sorry if Im a little ignorant on the subject but Im looking for answers. Thanks, Mikey
     

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    could be smack [heroin].
     

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    well Ive snorted heroin so I am knowledged about what it feels like so I dont think that the stuff is heroin. Thanks though, Mikey
     

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    My guess is that it's fake. *Never* heard of white opium. Opium is black and sticky, and comes right out of a poppy. Does what you have look like poppy latex? No? Well, then it's probably not opium.
    It could be chalk, though, or many other useful household items. Hell, if you have a good imagination, it can be anything you want it to be!
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    Here are a few links to images of the drugs you question....."white opium" could be somthing as strong as fentanyl, or as lame as a crushed up vicodin.....true opium is pretty rare because it takes a lota poppies, and H is cheaper to transport and sells better. ( thats what I guess anyway)
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show...tes/opium1.jpg
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show...m_redrock3.jpg
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show...d_incense3.jpg
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/show...whiterock1.jpg
     

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    i smoked this 'white opium' bout two years ago...crushed up really easy...tasted nothing opium, doubt it was even close...red rock is incense, and yes, the black opium is the real deal...mmmm
     

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    ITS ALL FAKE! Opium is a black tar, end of story... anything else is NOT OPIUM, and no one is going to make "fake opium" from fentanyl - if you have fentanyl you sell it as "heroin", you don't fuck with some bullshit "opium" - no profits!
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    i agree with phreex, but if you were using such a small amount of fent in the opium crap that it was rediculously profitable it might be feasable, you would have to make it very low so people using it and dont od anyway because they always smoke fucking shitloads of red rock and the other fake shit, BOWL AFTER BOWL, its like dont you fucking wonder why you arent overdosing? christ i hate dumb people. Anyway you guys who have dealers who sell you white and other color shit, go yell at them and injure them, they will never get real shit.
    In the mean time why dont you go buy some heroin? you obviously want an opiate high unless you wanted that queer placebo. Heroin is quite cheap comparitively seeing as how its real lol, and you will actually LIKE the shit without question if you like opiates.
    so go buy some and DONT give me any of that evil demonizing heroin but will sit there and eat pain killers bullshit.
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    lol, Yeah I know what ur talkin about I have friends that absolutely hate the thought of heroin but will tar tar tar their lungs up with smoke. Its amazing that heroin doesnt cause bodily harm [unless addiction sets in] but people are taught to hate it! Thanks for the replies, Mikey
     

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    the first time i did opium it was little whiteish colored rocks...i got hella fucked up off of them, so could anyone maybe tell me what it was if opium is black tar?? everyone i talked to said that the whiter the opium the purer.
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    No idea what you might have smoked, but it was not opium.. yes, when opium is first blead from the poppy it is a pearl white, but it quickly sets to a black tar - it can NOT be refined back to a white form, hell, even really pure heroin is tan in color..
    TripDoc brings up another good point about why fentanyl wouldn't work for opium - even in trace amounts, that much fentanyl would kill you .. we have been through this before, ala http://www2.bluelight.ru/ubb/Forum19/HTML/007931.html
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    Well i had some of the same stuff a few months ago, the stuff I had looked nothing like and smell nothing like opium. When I finally smoked it had a sweet fragrance just like opium and it got me messed up. I was very weary at first thinking it was fake and it would do nothing but in the end it was all good, but I still dont know for sure if it was for real.
    The best thing to do is try a little of it and see what you think.
     

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    thanks phreex...ill have to talk to the girl and see what it was then.
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    I have also done red and white rock opium. The redrock did absolutly nothing to me, I already knew that redrock was a scam, but I smoked it anyway just to know what it tasted like.
    As for white rock, thats a different story. I know it wasn't REAL opium. But I know it did have some kind of opiate in it. The high I got from white rock was real in every aspect. And it was definatly an opiate high. No maybe not real opium. But it was one of the best opiate highs I have ever had, and it was real. No doubt in my mind about that.
     

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    You're not the only person who has claimed getting a distinct opiate-like experience from the supposedly fake "white-rock opium." The next time someone gets their hands some of this stuff that actually produces an effect, save some and get it to someone who has the means to do some tests on it. Then we can finally solve this little unsolved mystery.
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    [This message has been edited by Astian (edited 08 July 2001).]
     

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    the white rock also did something for us as well. we put it on bowls of weed and smoked it and it melted very quickly, had purple smoke/haze, and tasted like eating a flower. we've been smoking everyday for a long time prior to this so we can definitely differentiate between different highs. it was nice, a bit floaty, and more body high more than anything. i know that sounds like weed but this was deffinitely a different high since we smoked the same kind bud earlier the day.
    anyhow i still have no idea what this shit was. i wish we could get some pictures online at least. just buy a gram to test it out and get a picture of it. I'm pretty sure thats the same type of "opium" i had. crystal like rock, white powder on it, crushed pretty easily (pushed a CC down on it hard). and as i said earlier, melted/bubbled fast.
     

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    ^^^
    It was the marijuana ..
    Opium is a tar, not a solid... it certinly wont crush with a credit card..
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    Has anyone noticed this pattern: everyone who got ripped off on opium but swears it was not fake--smoked it with a lot of weed? Once you go black--you never go back
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    taken from www.erowid.org
    Opium is the name for the brown waxy exudation from the unripe seed capsules of Papaver somniferum. Opium is a combination
    of chemicals, not a chemical name in itself, as someone so rightly pointed out in Usenet recently. It's active ingredients are
    morphine, thebaine, codeine, papaverine and several others besides. Yield and proportions of opiates vary between individual
    plants, crops, varieties, areas. Other parts of the poppy plant ( stems, leaves ) produce a latex which dries and resembles opium,
    but the quality of the latexes from the other parts of the plant are not near as high.
    Opium is described as a stimulant narcotic. Historically it has been prescribed as a painkiller, for inflammation unaccompanied
    by dyspnoea, in typhus, typhoid and smallpox etc.
     

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    ^^^^^^
    I guess it's worth a few effort points, 'no?
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    I just clicked on that link above to candkids... And I just got reminded how fucking retarted some of the things they argue about are.
    I know this is off topic, but I don't want to post over there.
     

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    I had the white rock. Tasted like flowers , but no high. It looked like white "nerds"<the candy> .
    I have come across fake black tar too.
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    argh. i know opinion posts are becoming less desired on this board.. but..
    HOLY SHIT PEOPLE. stop fucking smoking this shit with pot and whatever and then saying (the classic line) "we got fucked up" .. FUCKED UP doesn't indicate SHIT. we are TELLING you that fucking opium is A BLACK TAR not a white powder, a red rock, and can't be crushed and snorted. have ANY of you people used a fucking OPIATE ever before other than this white/red shit? goddammit people it's annoying as hell. i really don't care if this post is deleted or whatnot at least one of these potheads reads this.
    (this is asking for a flamewar.. shit, i didn't mean to do that. sorry)
     

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    Ok PhreeX
    First of all I agree with you that most of it is fake, but then again how the fuck do you know? Do you go peeking around in peoples stashes determining if they have opium or not?. Geezee, it is really easy to grow poppies, it might not be totally out of the question that opium is floating around now that the “mystery” of it all is on the net for everyone to see and synth. Lots of people I know/knew were much more apt to try opium on some bud before they main line some smack like you, so a fentanl based substitute might just be a great way to sell it off to all the hippie kids that don’t know any better. Goo it up into a hash ball……easy…with the dose potency you could make a hell of a lot of it cheap. Does this happen? I don’t know and neither do you…..why preach, are you a social scientist or a chemist?
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    I know most "opium" is fake because of the reasons I gave - REAL OPIUM is a BLACK TAR, so if your "opium" is ANYTHING OTHER THEN A BLACK TAR, it is NOT REAL OPIUM ...
    And ya gotta look at it from the point of someone with a supply of [raw opioid] who wants to turn a profit - you do NOT MAKE OPIUM, if you have fentanyl, you make HEROIN - yeah, your friends might say "eww, heroin, icky poo" - but there are PLENTY OF PEOPLE to make up the heroin users market...
    In order to make "fake opium" you need a few things, namely an OPIOID that can produce OPIUM LIKE EFFECTS.. now, ya gotta realize that opium doesn't bring much on the streets - a few bucks a gram tops.. so, if you were to use, say, fentanyl, you're going to LOSE MONEY as fentanyl does not burn well, hence you need more... and the volume of the shit, well, YOU NEED MORE..
    So lets say you have a gram of PURE FENTANYL - do you make 30 pounds of "opium" that would sell for a few bucks a gram? Or do you make a POUND of "heroin" that sells for more then $200 a gram? Lets say you're a drug smuggler - do you want to transport 30 pounds of "opium" or one pound of "heroin"...
    Sorry, people are NOT MAKING FAKE OPIUM from REAL NARCOTICS... it is either REAL OPIUM or it's something 100% bullshit - such as Dragons Blood...
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