Opioid Withdrawals arent lethal?? I BEG TO DIFFER -- EX-ADDICTS HELP PLZ

[smackem]

God damnit, i can't find it. You guys know where it is, its been posted here before.

 

[sixpartseven]

^ obviously we don't if we haven't seen it before.

 

[smackem]

you guys are just deadset on naysaying anyone that comes into this thread huh. Its obvious eyes of god didn't make up all the evidence. But I really don't understand why he would post it as fentnyl is considered a WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION.

THE SAME THE THE US IS IN A WAR FOR RIGHT NOW.

Look at the homeland security website. Ill keep lookin for the opiate case.

 

[sixpartseven]

^ It all just doesnt add up, thats why no one believes him. Its hard to fully believe someone when it comes to something like this because all we have to go on is his word. Now, considering that, hes a new member no one knows him, and hes telling a story that is very unlikely so its hard to just believe him with only that to go by. Im sure if he provided more conclusive and hard evidence to back himself up, this while fiasco would have never happend and this would be an interesting topic to discuss, but until then, I just dont believe him. No one said you couldnt believe him just because we dont.

Youve been around here long enough to know that if youre going to make some outrageous and highly unlikely claims, you better be able to back it up, or no one is going to take it seriously.

 

[smackem]

Word,

Nice join date.


and HERE IS MY 1000th POST.

3 LONG YEARS OF OPIATE ADDICTION. THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE UGLY.

Currently iam kicking a 40mg a day oxy habit. I was up to 1.5 grams a day of oxy for a month straight about a year ago.



I try to chip, but its just so hard. My life is so empty without opiates.


I _HONESTLY THINK_ i am a better person on opiates.

 

[smackem]

Many people have already came in and claimed to have taken his blotter. Somedied on it. He isn't lying man.

 

[OverDriven]

Many people have already came in and claimed to have taken his blotter. Somedied on it. He isn't lying man.

Where is this "claim"?

This is pretty incredible. I beilive him. I think he is a bit cocky about this 'I DESIGNED MY OWN CHEMICAL' BS, and also, if he spent some time he would know of the highest opiate tolerence case ever. This chick was taking 1.8 liters of fent a day.

For future reference, Fent isn't measured in liters...its a solid.

 

[Patsg6685]

Didn't he admit about 20 posts ago that he made it all up? Or do you think it was sarcasm?, without tone of voice and facial expressions I can't tell. Hell, I usually misinterpret what most of you guys are saying or how you are saying it. Damn internet, such an inefficient form of communication, awesome for information though, and porn.

Also, can someone tell me, what is a TROLL? I have seen the expression used here before, but I don't know what it means.

 

[The Real Fatman]

a troll is someone that starts shit on internet forums, makes shit up, pretends to have super powerful fentanyl analogues, and just in general causes trouble.

why the fuck is this shit still open and on page 16 at that.

 

[johanneschimpo]

For future reference, Fent isn't measured in liters...its a solid.

He's referring to fentanyl used in hospitals. I believe its 100ug/mL.
So, for future reference, "Fent is measured in liters"

 

[OverDriven]

He's referring to fentanyl used in hospitals. I believe its 100ug/mL.
So, for future reference, "Fent is measured in liters"

No..wrong again. You can't measure it in liters without stating the concentration, otherwise a liquid measurement means absolutely nothing. Not all preparations are the same concentration. Therefore, no...it is not measured in liters. It should be measured in ug or mg. Why don't you take a look at an anesthesia handbook and see how they measure it...it is always in weight.

 

[sixpartseven]

a troll is someone that starts shit on internet forums, makes shit up, pretends to have super powerful fentanyl analogues, and just in general causes trouble.

why the fuck is this shit still open and on page 16 at that.

hah. that is a key attribute to a TROLL on any forum. They are notorious for it.

 

[Beans]

 

[johanneschimpo]

No..wrong again. You can't measure it in liters without stating the concentration, otherwise a liquid measurement means absolutely nothing. Not all preparations are the same concentration. Therefore, no...it is not measured in liters. It should be measured in ug or mg. Why don't you take a look at an anesthesia handbook and see how they measure it...it is always in weight.

Well of course, it should be measured in weight, but haven't you ever seen a medical scene on TV (I've seen them in person, worked in a hospital) where they say "10cc's of XXX" Well it turns out a cc (cubic centimeter) equals a mL. Theres one instance of drugs being measured in volume. Naturally though, things like fentanyl should be measured by weight, my point was I knew what smackem meant when he said liters of fentanyl. I saw that article, it was probably 6 months - 1 year ago, about the lady taking massive amounts of fentanyl, and I'm pretty sure the they did measure it in liters. Nitpicking about whether they should or shouldn't have is irrelevant.

 

[Niandra LaDes]

no way, man. its true. i knew this guy once. when i met him he introduced himself like this "hey my names russel and i have to drink 5 gallons of fentanyl a day or else i get sick"

 

[synchrojet]

I've just now read through this post, and even with a very rudimentary knowledge of chemistry and synth protocol I can see several problems right off the bat. This threadstarter, and the subsequent posts by IntheEyesofGod, if taken literally, are nothing but an amalgamation of various texts readily findable on the internet.

Now, in order for the individual to TRULY comprehend the possibility of the molecule, and therefore propose it on his own, he would be able to easily answer the some rudimentary HIGH SCHOOL chemistry questions (proposed later).

Any claims that are made as to ignorance of chemistry automatically reveal that this person did NOT propose the molecule, but rather, STOLE the proposition from somewhere else.

Also, as to the claims of 174 I.Q. -- this is something I know a lot about. The irrelevance of I.Q. tests notwithstanding, let us assume for a moment that this person did test this high. A couple of questions:

Was the test a Stanford - Benet standardized test? How many questions were on the test? How was your score annotated? Was there any subscript, or subtext? When were you tested? Where? How old are you? Upon discovery of a score greater than 170, did you take another kind of I.Q. test? What was it? What is the name of the institute/doctor that tested you? What year? Did M.E.N.S.A. contact you, and if so, how, and what was their FIRST statement in their greeting to you?

Lastly, if you took additional intelligence tests (which if you didn't, your score of 174 is suspect), were the tests a measure of the function of static G, fluid G, or neither? What were your scores?

I'm surprised that nobody has asked some specific synth questions to further illuminate the nature of the claims.

Lets start with the most basic few (and I'm sure we'll get an anwer to these, but it won't take long to reveal the truth, believe me):

First off -- Once you received your powder, specifically, how did you avoid accidentally breathing in ANY dust particles? Given the potency of the compound, this would be the FIRST consideration. (Yes, I want to know what steps you wore the protective garb, and what, PRECISELY, that garb was.)

Secondly -- you say you "fooled around" with the dosage at first. What, EXACTLY, was your titration method for your FIRST DOSE, and what, EXACTLY, was your first dose? What were the effects? Onset time? Peak? Duration?

And some SIMPLE chemistry questions:

1. At any time during this synth, is there a replacement of a quaternary amine with phenylpropanolamine? If so, how would one execute?

2. What, if anything, is chemically incorrect about the following chemical proposition:

N-methyl-4-piperidone + methyl iodide ===>
N,N-methyl-4-piperidone iodide + phenylpropanolamine, base ===>
beta-hydroxy-alpha-methyl-phenylethyl-4-piperidone + aniline, NaBH4 ===>
4-anilo-1-(beta-hydroxy-alpha-methyl-phenethyl)-piperidone + (CH2CHCO)2O ===>beta-hydroxy-methylfentanyl

and what relevance would the above synthesis (once corrected, if needed)have to the one you claim to be knowledgeable about?

I realize you can forward the chem questions to any friends with a rudimentary knowedge thereof. But the answers to the I.Q. protocol should prove interesting...

 

[Angelus]

synchrojet, he never claimed to synth it or have any solid chem knowledge...

 

[smackem]

No shit, don't you come in here and tell me fent isn't measured in liters. I know this. What about crook? What about the dead bl-er in the shrine, what about EVERYONE ELSE WHO CLAIMED TO HAVE FENT BLOTTERS IN THIS THREAD?

 

[synchrojet]

Angelis --

What he did claim is to have designed the molecule. That in and of itself implies...no, MANDATES...some basic chem knowledge.

To propose a molecule such as this with no chemistry knowledge would be analogous to proposing a harmonically equivalent substition sequence to a portion Missa Solemnis and claim that it was "just an idea backed by some musical experience in a high school band."

The questions I proposed are EASY for someone with an I.Q. of 174 to answer.

As to the question of liquid Fentanyl - of course there is such a thing, this allows for intravenous administration. The question would be one of concentration, which varies, just as the doses of powdered Fentanyl vary.

 

['medicine cabinet']

no way, man. its true. i knew this guy once. when i met him he introduced himself like this "hey my names russel and i have to drink 5 gallons of fentanyl a day or else i get sick"

that actually made me laugh out loud...